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Covfefe-19: Do What Now?

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We had groceries delivered (door drop.off). No water, wet cat food, kleenex, ground beef, coffee creamer available.
 
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geezer said:
Presumably this is urgent enough to combine or overlap some of the elements of medical... but still: a long time away.
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right now the phase they are at is "well, we think this might work and it didn't kill our mice. let's put it in some humans and see what happens"
 
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Quick math on the bailout checks.

$250,000,000,000,000
142,000,000,000 taxpayers
Average check of $1773.00
One on 6 April, the second on 18 May.
However, not all checks will be equal.

They would be tiered payments, with the amounts based on income level and family size, the proposal says. Both payments would be for the same amount.
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mm-hmmm...
 
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Handyman said:
Let them sue...they will get $1.
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Remember what happened the last time the Italians really, really didn't like someone? I seem to remember some rope being involved. There's going to be a lot of anxious, cabin-fevered, angry people coming out of their homes in a few months and they're going to be out for blood.
 
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geezer said:
Which is why I’m wondering if we’re going to lose a year plus of school, sports, etc.
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If we lose more than a year of school and sports it means the entirety of society has failed and by that time Earth will be nothing more than a smoldering rock from the globalthermonuclear war. For real.
 
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BassAle said:
I wouldn't get my hopes up for a quick resolution. Even with phase 1 trials starting now, it could be 12-18 months for a fast-tracked vaccination. Phase 1 is checking safety and dosing could take months to complete. Then they have to do a phase two study to test the efficacy. They'd have to cut phase 3 short.


Our covid-19 research mice aren't shipping yet. Current clinical trial hasn't been tested in animals for efficacy. They probably did safety testing in animals, but they wouldn't have had a good animal model for testing efficacy yet.

they spent decades working on an ebola vaccine, and even though they ramped up efforts during the 2014 outbreak, I think the first was approved by the FDA December 2019
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Keep in mind, that's also because:
1. Racism
2. It burned itself out
3. Ebola hasn't spread to every nation threatening to shut down the world
 
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WeAreNDHockey said:
If we lose more than a year of school and sports it means the entirety of society has failed and by that time Earth will be nothing more than a smoldering rock from the globalthermonuclear war. For real.
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Um, no...

We'll figure this out. We figured out the 1918 Pandemic and lived through that with a hell of a lot less interconnectivity and technology as we were coming out of the first World War.

I have more faith in humanity now than I would have comparing the two situations in a vacuum.
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
Um, no...

We'll figure this out. We figured out the 1918 Pandemic and lived through that with a hell of a lot less interconnectivity and technology as we were coming out of the first World War.
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Read John Barry's book on the 1918 flu. We didn't figure anything out. The disease just ran its course. About all we did was figure out ways to treat some side issues, like pneumonia.
 
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I’m hoping there will be some kind of instant test next year where people can be checked into campus by a nurse? Might be wishful thinking for one-day events like hockey games though. Plus the problems with contaminated surfaces. You can’t just autoclave the students and their luggage.
We will have to decide on what level of risk and rate of spread is tolerable
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
Um, no...

We'll figure this out. We figured out the 1918 Pandemic and lived through that with a hell of a lot less interconnectivity and technology as we were coming out of the first World War.

I have more faith in humanity now than I would have comparing the two situations in a vacuum.
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We sent our kids to school and played baseball through both World Wars and aside from some things being cancelled we did not shut down during the 1918 influenza pandemic (which really lasted about 2 years). If our kids are out of school into 2021 and beyond the toll this will have taken on society will be unlike anything the world has ever seen. In 1918 it took world wars years to kill the number of people that we would kill now in seconds. Now mind you, I am not saying this is anything like what will actually happen, and I actually believe it will not happen. But you have more faith in humanity by far than me (most people do) and if we are seeing serious, society wide disruptions like no school still in 2021, your faith in humanity is going to be severely tested.
 
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WeAreNDHockey said:
We sent our kids to school and played baseball through both World Wars and aside from some things being cancelled we did not shut down during the 1918 influenza pandemic (which really lasted about 2 years). If our kids are out of school into 2021 and beyond the toll this will have taken on society will be unlike anything the world has ever seen. In 1918 it took world wars years to kill the number of people that we would kill now in seconds. Now mind you, I am not saying this is anything like what will actually happen, and I actually believe it will not happen. But you have more faith in humanity by far than me (most people do) and if we are seeing serious, society wide disruptions like no school still in 2021, your faith in humanity is going to be severely tested.
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Only one thing left to do.
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The CEO of a small ventilator company near Seattle has "received inquiries from a number of wealthy individuals hoping to buy their own personal ventilators, a fallback plan in case the American hospital system buckles."<a href="https://t.co/nDW5w3lfKh">https://t.co/nDW5w3lfKh</a></p>— Kate Taylor (@katetaylornyt) <a href="https://twitter.com/katetaylornyt/status/1240343635754967043?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 18, 2020</a></blockquote>
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Just remember, the rich are here to **** you. Time to have Governors step in a stop this nonsense. The means of production of respirators and their components should be secured and sales should be limited, immediately, to government and hospitals.
 
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SJHovey said:
Read John Barry's book on the 1918 flu. We didn't figure anything out. The disease just ran its course. About all we did was figure out ways to treat some side issues, like pneumonia.
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That's... kind of my point.
 
dxmnkd316 said:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The CEO of a small ventilator company near Seattle has "received inquiries from a number of wealthy individuals hoping to buy their own personal ventilators, a fallback plan in case the American hospital system buckles."<a href="https://t.co/nDW5w3lfKh">https://t.co/nDW5w3lfKh</a></p>— Kate Taylor (@katetaylornyt) <a href="https://twitter.com/katetaylornyt/status/1240343635754967043?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 18, 2020</a></blockquote>
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Just remember, the rich are here to **** you. Time to have Governors step in a stop this nonsense. The means of production of respirators and their components should be secured and sales should be limited, immediately, to government and hospitals.
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If only there was a Federal agency with leadership that could have stepped in and made sure that local governments who needed supplies in a timely order could have coordinated that for us.

Oh.
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This account has 20 million followers and in the midst of a global health pandemic when getting good practices shared widely is of the utmost importance, it is spending its time on this ****. <a href="https://t.co/QAWNyiSfUK">https://t.co/QAWNyiSfUK</a></p>— Sam Stein (@samstein) <a href="https://twitter.com/samstein/status/1240348658123579398?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 18, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
Keep in mind, that's also because:
1. Racism
2. It burned itself out
3. Ebola hasn't spread to every nation threatening to shut down the world
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most vaccines take 10-20 years to develop and get through clinical trials. I think it's unrealistic to hope we could be administering millions of doses of something in less than 12-18 months.
 
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