Covfefe-19 2020 part the second: Wash Your Hands

[MinnesotaNorthStar]

Well best of luck. I’ve been there before and it sucked *** even though I was living at home still. Can’t imagine having real financial responsibilities.

Yep. Going to try to forget about it for the next few days...

 

[mookie1995]

I work in a biomedical research lab and I’ve got to say the vibe is really weird now. Scientists who never close their office doors are, hardly anyone walking around the halls, lots of people starting to work from home.

On MDI? Mookie knows this place

 

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

Re: Covfefe-19 2020 part the second: Wash Your Hands

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Currently experts expect over 1 million deaths in the U.S. since the virus was not contained & we cannot even test for it. <br><br>This will be recorded as a major preventable public health disaster. I will try to relate what I learned from a long day of calls about what is happening.</p>— Andy Slavitt (@ASlavitt) <a href="https://twitter.com/ASlavitt/status/1238303395448008704?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 13, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

Re: Covfefe-19 2020 part the second: Wash Your Hands

“ Breaking News: An Australian official who met with Ivanka Trump and Attorney General William Barr in Washington last week tested positive for coronavirus.”

 

[alfablue]

Re: Covfefe-19 2020 part the second: Wash Your Hands

So a question for the experts (les... )

It's being said that 85% of people who get this virus will have little to no symptoms.

If you are one of them, what symptoms and what degree of those symptoms should you self quarantine? I can picture someone who gets warm in an afternoon, maybe coughs a few times- barely worse even to a cold kind of thing. For sure, given the current standard to get a limited test, there's no way that you are going to be tested- so the odds if you actually knowing is virtually nothing (unless, apparently, you are a star, since it appears the NBA is all going to get tested....).

What recommendation is being put out for the barely any symptom people who get this- and have no idea?

Thanks.

The reason I ask is that if we have 10 confirmed cases- which I'm wondering if they are in the 10% serious enough to test area- that would mean there are 90 others out there who have it, 85 of which will have no major issues, and X will have barely even any symptoms wandering around.

(which is why the current policy of social separation w/o many confirmed cases makes SO much sense)

 

[mookie1995]

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https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/03/13/world/asia/coronavirus-death-life.html

 

[BassAle]

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On MDI? Mookie knows this place

it's hard to miss:

<img width="300" src="https://www.jax.org/-/media/353be35d5a0440dcb7742062202e0b67.jpg">

 

[BassAle]

Re: Covfefe-19 2020 part the second: Wash Your Hands

If you are one of them, what symptoms and what degree of those symptoms should you self quarantine?

I'm not les, and I'm not an expert, but if I had a fever and a cough I would definitely self-quarantine, or if I had direct contact with anyone that might have had it. Even if I had a mild case, I could pass it on to someone that could die from it.

 

[ticapnews]

I said I had a friend texting with docs that Jared was asking for help? Here it is

https://spectator.us/karlie-kloss-dad-jared-kushner-coronavirus-research/

On second thought, maybe we can use this to our advantage. All we need to do is have one hero convince Doctor Jared drinking bleach really is a prevention method that works, he tells his dad...problem solved.

 

[J.D.]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Currently experts expect over 1 million deaths in the U.S. since the virus was not contained & we cannot even test for it. <br><br>This will be recorded as a major preventable public health disaster. I will try to relate what I learned from a long day of calls about what is happening.</p>— Andy Slavitt (@ASlavitt) <a href="https://twitter.com/ASlavitt/status/1238303395448008704?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 13, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

That seems preposterous

 

[BassAle]

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That seems preposterous

the flu sickens 10-40 million people a year. That's with a vaccine.

We have no immunity to Covid-19. We could easily end up with > 100 million people infected. If somehow you managed to only have 1% fatality rate (even though our healthcare system would be overwhelmed) you would get 1 million deaths.

It's too late to lock this down like China seems to have done, unless we basically declare marshal law and quarantine everyone in their homes and use the national guard to deliver supplies to everyone.

 

[J.D.]

So a question for the experts (les... )

It's being said that 85% of people who get this virus will have little to no symptoms.

If you are one of them, what symptoms and what degree of those symptoms should you self quarantine? I can picture someone who gets warm in an afternoon, maybe coughs a few times- barely worse even to a cold kind of thing. For sure, given the current standard to get a limited test, there's no way that you are going to be tested- so the odds if you actually knowing is virtually nothing (unless, apparently, you are a star, since it appears the NBA is all going to get tested....).

What recommendation is being put out for the barely any symptom people who get this- and have no idea?

Thanks.

The reason I ask is that if we have 10 confirmed cases- which I'm wondering if they are in the 10% serious enough to test area- that would mean there are 90 others out there who have it, 85 of which will have no major issues, and X will have barely even any symptoms wandering around.

(which is why the current policy of social separation w/o many confirmed cases makes SO much sense)

You're describing my own situation right now. Have had cold symptoms for about a week. No fever at any time just stuffy nose, sore throat, breathing felt a little different, bit of a cough last night. Haven't coughed this morning but just laying here in bed. Supposed to go see dr this afternoon. But should I even do that? My thought is I don't wanna shrug it off when pneumonia is a possibility. My sister thinks it's flu b but considering I am laying here in no significant pain do they want me coming in? At the same time I want to stay ahead of it the best I can.

 

[mookie1995]

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it's hard to miss:

<img width="300" src="https://www.jax.org/-/media/353be35d5a0440dcb7742062202e0b67.jpg">

Buddy of mookie’s brother worked in your lab one summer. We went up a couple weekends to visit.

 

[Spartanforlife4]

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I would love to see the cross section between people on social media posting the “calming” statistics that only 5% of people infected go to the ICU, who also go ballistic if a 1 or 2% tax increase is discussed.

 

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

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It’s not preposterous if you’re paying attention. And that man was put in charge of all gov run healthcare by a president who cared about making sure people who knew what they were doing were in the right roles

And runny nose/congestion doesn’t seem to be a covid symptom.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

Re: Covfefe-19 2020 part the second: Wash Your Hands

the flu sickens 10-40 million people a year. That's with a vaccine.

We have no immunity to Covid-19. We could easily end up with > 100 million people infected. If somehow you managed to only have 1% fatality rate (even though our healthcare system would be overwhelmed) you would get 1 million deaths.

It's too late to lock this down like China seems to have done, unless we basically declare marshal law and quarantine everyone in their homes and use the national guard to deliver supplies to everyone.

Heard the head guy from the University of Minnesota on this this morning on Morning Joe. We're all going to have to learn to live with this virus. Bottom line. The virus is spread through the air so the over emphasis on hand washing is fine, but doesn't really help all that much.

His biggest concern is the new just in time manufacturing model that has been put in the last 10 years or so has made us worse off cause now we're not only relying on parts of the world that are unstable to supply us but we have no stock of anything on the shelves.

It's going to be a bumpy ride. He said this could go on for the next 6 months. Guys name was Michael Osterholm, PhD. He has some books out on pandemics, papers, etc. He knows what he's talking about.

 

[BassAle]

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No fever at any time

I wouldn't be that concerned without a fever.

 

[ticapnews]

You're describing my own situation right now. Have had cold symptoms for about a week. No fever at any time just stuffy nose, sore throat, breathing felt a little different, bit of a cough last night. Haven't coughed this morning but just laying here in bed. Supposed to go see dr this afternoon. But should I even do that? My thought is I don't wanna shrug it off when pneumonia is a possibility. My sister thinks it's flu b but considering I am laying here in no significant pain do they want me coming in? At the same time I want to stay ahead of it the best I can.

Call your doctor and ask them. Or just get advice off Facebook. It seems that is good enough for Sniffles and Doctor Jared.

 

[J.D.]

I wouldn't be that concerned without a fever.

Not concerned about it being covid per se but just trying to stay ahead of anything it might be or turn into. I know that's going to be a challenging task for medical professionals going forward since you're automatically going to assume the worst if you get sick.

 

[ticapnews]

Heard the head guy from the University of Minnesota on this this morning on Morning Joe. We're all going to have to learn to live with this virus. Bottom line. The virus is spread through the air so the over emphasis on hand washing is fine, but doesn't really help all that much.

His biggest concern is the new just in time manufacturing model that has been put in the last 10 years or so has made us worse off cause now we're not only relying on parts of the world that are unstable to supply us but we have no stock of anything on the shelves.

It's going to be a bumpy ride. He said this could go on for the next 6 months. Guys name was Michael Osterholm, PhD. He has some books out on pandemics, papers, etc. He knows what he's talking about.

We'll be fine. Doctor Sniffles says it will go away next month.