Cops: No Snarky Nor Positive Title

[Kepler]

Holy ****ing ****

https://twitter.com/afriendlydad/status/1298510289197916160?s=21

the cops were working with these terrorists?

To be fair, they aren't exactly terrorists. The correct term is death squads.

 

[rufus]

Holy ****ing ****

https://twitter.com/afriendlydad/status/1298510289197916160?s=21

the cops were working with these terrorists?

They've been doing it in Portland for years. Letting the Proud Boys know where protesters are organizing, what streets to avoid when the cops start cracking down, etc.

White guy with a gun is a good guy. Automatic.

 

[Jimjamesak]

They've been doing it in Portland for years. Letting the Proud Boys know where protesters are organizing, what streets to avoid when the cops start cracking down, etc.

White guy with a gun is a good guy. Automatic.

Yeah, this is nothing new. Been happening for decades.

 

[Handyman]

I think it was in New Mexico when some armed "Anti-Protesters" (bunch of small dicked cosplaying III%ers) showed up and started shooting the cops stood by and literally did nothing. (one of the thugs' brother was a Sheriff I think) All to protect a statue. It was only after an extended time realizing they were on camera they arrested the real terrorists...peacefully of course no use of enhanced methods. And that was in broad day light.

When the Proud Boys marched in Portalnd and a fight ensued between them and the BLM protesters the cops were no where to be seen. Apparently that isnt as bad a situation as some graffiti is.

Remember...the cops think they are the victims in all of this. Anyone who is defending them is in the right...even if they are killing people. That is why people with water bottles and fireworks are terrorist rioters who get beaten and gassed and guys with automatic weapons somehow always seem to escape.

 

[Handyman]

I see the Blue Lives Matter crew is trying to defend the shooter for "protecting his community" even though he is from 40 miles away and out of state. I know math isnt their strong suit but that is bad even for them.

So does that meanif some armed BLM protesters from Minneapolis showed up and started shooting that would be ok? Asking for a few thousand friends...

 

[Slap Shot]

jfc I feel safer here and that's no joke.

This will be an unpopular opinion but someone of prominence from the left needs to step up to tell the looters to stfu and go home. Sorry that's how I feel.

 

[Handyman]

If the looters go home the story ends. Notice no one talks about any of the protests unless something bad happens. There is George Floyd protests all over the country every day and even the local news in those towns barely talks about it anymore. Hell there are Breonna Taylor protests every day and the only place she is even mentioned anymore is Twitter. For better or for worse the destruction is what keeps the story relevant. The second it stops no one will care that a guy is likely paralyzed for life because he dared walk away from cops.

And what is anyone from the Left going to be able to do anyways? You really think if Joe Biden gives a speech tomorrow begging them to stop they will? If anything it will just make things worse. Don Lemon said something similar which should prove to you you are wrong ;-)

This has been building for a while and the cops are too stupid to stop their gestapo tactics even with thousands of cameras focused on them. Nothing changes no matter who talks or who is in charge.

Speaking of Breonna Taylor the cops that murdered her got practice a few years before.

 

[SJHovey]

If the looters go home the story ends. Notice no one talks about any of the protests unless something bad happens. There is George Floyd protests all over the country every day and even the local news in those towns barely talks about it anymore. Hell there are Breonna Taylor protests every day and the only place she is even mentioned anymore is Twitter. For better or for worse the destruction is what keeps the story relevant. The second it stops no one will care that a guy is likely paralyzed for life because he dared walk away from cops.

And what is anyone from the Left going to be able to do anyways? You really think if Joe Biden gives a speech tomorrow begging them to stop they will? If anything it will just make things worse. Don Lemon said something similar which should prove to you you are wrong ;-)

This has been building for a while and the cops are too stupid to stop their gestapo tactics even with thousands of cameras focused on them. Nothing changes no matter who talks or who is in charge.

Speaking of Breonna Taylor the cops that murdered her got practice a few years before.

That is the crux of the issue. If peaceful protest doesn't result in the change you seek, at the pace you seek it, is unlawful violent conduct justified? I mean, heck, this country was founded on that decision.

But that said, the actors, and society, had better be prepared for the consequences. As soon as you look the other way to looting and destruction and other violent protests, you open the door to homeowners and property owners claiming "I called for help, I begged for help, but no one listened," and at that point they take matters into their own hands, and violence begets violence.

 

[Slap Shot]

If the looters go home the story ends. Notice no one talks about any of the protests unless something bad happens. There is George Floyd protests all over the country every day and even the local news in those towns barely talks about it anymore. Hell there are Breonna Taylor protests every day and the only place she is even mentioned anymore is Twitter. For better or for worse the destruction is what keeps the story relevant. The second it stops no one will care that a guy is likely paralyzed for life because he dared walk away from cops.

What would you say is the most frequent gist of the conversations being had about the looting and rioting? And I don't mean from the typical Trumper. Because I'm seeing a growing amount of discontent from friends of mine that are much more level-headed than his sycophants.

 

[Jimjamesak]

That is the crux of the issue. If peaceful protest doesn't result in the change you seek, at the pace you seek it, is unlawful violent conduct justified? I mean, heck, this country was founded on that decision.

But that said, the actors, and society, had better be prepared for the consequences. As soon as you look the other way to looting and destruction and other violent protests, you open the door to homeowners and property owners claiming "I called for help, I begged for help, but no one listened," and at that point they take matters into their own hands, and violence begets violence.

And therein lies the problem with this country. Instead of going “hey, maybe we should do something about this” the typical conservative response is “I’m going to start blasting!” and “they started it, it’s their fault!”

 

[SJHovey]

And therein lies the problem with this country. Instead of going “hey, maybe we should do something about this” the typical conservative response is “I’m going to start blasting!” and “they started it, it’s their fault!”

I don’t justify what the shooter in Wisconsin did. He should be prosecuted, and will be. But his irrational and illegal behavior is an obvious byproduct of condoning violence as a solution.

 

[Kepler]

This will be an unpopular opinion but someone of prominence from the left needs to step up to tell the looters to **** and go home. Sorry that's how I feel.

Nobody is pro-looting. Some of us just wish the law treated all forms of looting the same way.

Steal a TV, you're a looter. Steal a trillion dollars, you're a pillar of the community.

 

[Kepler]

I don’t justify what the shooter in Wisconsin did. He should be prosecuted, and will be. But his irrational and illegal behavior is an obvious byproduct of condoning violence as a solution.

Unsurprisingly, you have the casual arrows backwards.

The victims finally got tired of a century of police brutality and began to behave outside the law. State-sanctioned racist violence is what got us to this point.

Cletus Conservative with his AR-15 marital aid did not give a sh-t about the cops murdering blacks -- something which is, gasp, against the law. It was when somebody said maybe that wasn't apple pie that he suddenly got hard for extra-legal murder.

So maybe don't pearl-clutch so much about a handful of idiots throwing bricks through store windows and pay some attention to officers of the state granted lethal force abusing that power as white supremacist executioners.

 

[Handyman]

What would you say is the most frequent gist of the conversations being had about the looting and rioting? And I don't mean from the typical Trumper. Because I'm seeing a growing amount of discontent from friends of mine that are much more level-headed than his sycophants.

It is mostly the same from what I see. But they arent doing it so that White People like us feel ok about it. They are doing it so we DONT feel ok about it. The gist of the conversations parallels the conversations I see minorities have all the time.

No offense to you and your friends (or some of mine for that matter) but we dont matter in this equation unless this is what causes us to vote GOP. (or not vote at all) If that is the case (which none of my friends would dare do) then the problem is us not them. Why should they have to do what makes us feel comfortable if doing so makes their life worse?

 

[Handyman]

That is the crux of the issue. If peaceful protest doesn't result in the change you seek, at the pace you seek it, is unlawful violent conduct justified? I mean, heck, this country was founded on that decision.

But that said, the actors, and society, had better be prepared for the consequences. As soon as you look the other way to looting and destruction and other violent protests, you open the door to homeowners and property owners claiming "I called for help, I begged for help, but no one listened," and at that point they take matters into their own hands, and violence begets violence.

I dont think violence against people is ever justified. I dont think rioter shouldnt be punished. I advocate for equal treatment which is not what is happening. I mean there are videos of the cops thanking the paramilitary cucks for helping out when they are causing as much mayhem and violence as anyone. That is not a good look...

If the protesters commit crimes they should be willing to face the consequences and have their day in court.

On your second point...if half of society thinks the people they would call for help wont help them (or arent the right people to help them even if they mean well) why should they choose to follow the rules? I dont think anyone wants lawlessness and anarchy but if something is proven not to be working, and if all reforms over decades have proven at best ineffectual what can be done?

Look I dont like what is happening in Kenosha any more than I liked what happened the first two nights in Minneapolis. But I am not the person that is beat down by the system watching people like me get shot with no repercussions. But I can tell you that every time I see some Nazi puke spout some antisemitic trope or some politician dog whistle about the Jews I am ready to punch some faces and I have barely had to even deal with the stuff. (OT but my dad was once arrested and had a Minneapolis cop say "I am going to nail your Jew ass to the wall" trying to bait my dad into a fight) I can only imagine what they feel seeing that stuff...and seeing people come up with the most blatantly false ways to justify it. All of this is avoided if the cops just dont shoot someone who they are pointing guns at (in front of his kids) for trying to break up a fight.

 

[dxmnkd316]

Kid is charged with homicide.

Also, for the record, I'm not surprised cops are working with these radicals. I'm surprised it was so official and unremarkable and that they were casually discussing it while on camera. Sue me.

 

[Kepler]

Kid is charged with homicide.

Also, for the record, I'm not surprised cops are working with these radicals. I'm surprised it was so official and unremarkable and that they were casually discussing it while on camera. Sue me.

In Minneapolis the paramilitary right wingers were very friendly with the cops and vice versa.

They're the same people, just on and off the clock.

 

[Slap Shot]

It is mostly the same from what I see. But they arent doing it so that White People like us feel ok about it. They are doing it so we DONT feel ok about it. The gist of the conversations parallels the conversations I see minorities have all the time.

No offense to you and your friends (or some of mine for that matter) but we dont matter in this equation unless this is what causes us to vote GOP. (or not vote at all) If that is the case (which none of my friends would dare do) then the problem is us not them. Why should they have to do what makes us feel comfortable if doing so makes their life worse?

I don't really disagree with you much at all. The problem is that much of the "damage" from the unrest does come from people that also "don't matter in the equation" and then when it degrades into physical violence it detracts additionally from the intended (or hoped for) message.

I'm not naive nor oblivious to many of the realities here and I'm not trying to come across as an armchair QB with no skin in the game. I'm hoping to find some balance between legitimate (necessary?) lashing out by those hardest hit from treacherous, racist and murdering cops and idiots looking for an excuse to break s**t.

 

[Handyman]

Kid is charged with homicide.

Also, for the record, I'm not surprised cops are working with these radicals. I'm surprised it was so official and unremarkable and that they were casually discussing it while on camera. Sue me.

The cops thanked him for being there...before he shot people. I mean sure he is illegally open-carrying if I read right (need to be 18 to open carry) but why would the cops bother to worry about the law...they have water bottles to dodge!!

17 years old and he just screwed his life up so he could pretend not to be a nerdy weakling. Who wants to bet his dad is a grade A screw up who taught Kyle (that is his name screw him being a minor) how to be a real man?

The amount of people defending him is downright sickening. This country is going down a very very dark hole...

 

[aparch]

17 years old and he just screwed his life up so he could pretend not to be a nerdy weakling. Who wants to bet his dad is a grade A screw up who taught Kyle (that is his name screw him being a minor) how to be a real man?

Nah, they'll slide this one through Juvi so his record gets sealed.