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Cops 2: Pay No Attention to the Rioters Behind the Curtain

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Only got pulled over twice, both for fixit tickets: broken tail light which happened the same day, and front license plate in the front window/not affixed to front of the car (which I admit, I didn't know that was a law).

I've been pulled over <strike>a few</strike> several times (I don't recall exactly, more than 4, less than 8). Once I was pulled over for speeding, the officer comes up all aggressive, "do you know how fast you were going?" I said, "around 72 mph or so." His jaw drops (speed limit was 55). "uh, yeah." He writes me up so that I have to pay a $75 fine but I don't get slammed for going 20 mph over the limit and nothing goes on my driving record: "I'm being nice to you because you were honest."

Another time the guy was both a jerk and a nice guy at the same time. I was driving another family member's car, rolling along, suddenly get pulled over for an expired license plate. He forces me to go to the nearest DMV to renew it, but then jumps me to the front of the line so that I can renew it right away without waiting and be on my way. No ticket.

The funniest time (in retrospect) was when I was pulled over on my way to a concert. I had to stand with my hands on the roof of the car while he frisked me. I had a wineskin inside my shirt between my elbow and my shoulder underneath each of my arms, he missed them both.






As others have said, many police officers are on a power trip of some kind. I always defer to them, act all humble and submissive and friendly and cooperative. Even when they've been aggressive and threatening, I've usually been able to turn that aside.

I didn't realize it for awhile, though I've come to learn that some of them are on edge every time they make a routine traffic stop, because they know someone who's been shot in that situation.





Some of y'all are really lucky never to have been the victim of a crime. Every time we had a break-in, we were happy to have them respond so quickly, even if once they did leave fingerprint powder all over the place for us to clean up later.
 
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Congratulations on being white.

I'm not quite sure what you mean. Are you saying that law-abiding black people who live in poor neighborhoods don't deserve police protection because the criminals in those neighborhoods are black?
 
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I'm not quite sure what you mean. Are you saying that law-abiding black people who live in poor neighborhoods don't deserve police protection because the criminals in those neighborhoods are black?

He's saying that we sometimes get off easy with cops because we're white while a black person in that same situation might have been given a ticket or a trip to the slammer or worse.
 
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He's saying that we sometimes get off easy with cops because we're white while a black person in that same situation might have been given a ticket or a trip to the slammer or worse.

Believe me, when cops see a vehicle like the one I had...their first thought is "easy drug bust." Pretty sure I wasn't only pulled over because of a broken tail-light. It was in the daytime.
 
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I drove around for YEARS with a car that had a giant Grateful Dead logo painted on the hood, along with many irreverent bumper stickers, like "Fukengruven" etc.

Ya think that wasn't a target for cops?

Guess what? Never broke the law. Only got pulled over twice, both for fixit tickets: broken tail light which happened the same day, and front license plate in the front window/not affixed to front of the car (which I admit, I didn't know that was a law).

No offense but that is completely irrelevant.

Let me ask you this have you ever had a cop flat out attack you for standing around and looking like a generic criminal in a sketch? No? Congrats on being white.

Just because cops dont wrongfully assume you are a criminal doesnt mean they dont do it to a lot of others.
 
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Quick question, what law was say, James Blake breaking when the cop attacked him? How about the Viking player attacked at Seven last year who was waiting for the valet? (Tom Johnson I think) I will hang up and listen...
 
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No offense but that is completely irrelevant.

Let me ask you this have you ever had a cop flat out attack you for standing around and looking like a generic criminal in a sketch? No? Congrats on being white.

Just because cops dont wrongfully assume you are a criminal doesnt mean they dont do it to a lot of others.

And I'm saying that this is the "issue of the day." MOST cops don't do crap like that. The few that do, and obviously there are bad cops, get the headlines because it's actually news that is not the norm, and that's the current OMG RACIAL STUFF.

Bottom line is, if you are not committing crimes, chances are you will not be harassed by cops.
 
And I'm saying that this is the "issue of the day." MOST cops don't do crap like that. The few that do, and obviously there are bad cops, get the headlines because it's actually news that is not the norm, and that's the current OMG RACIAL STUFF.

Bottom line is, if you are not committing crimes, chances are you will not be harassed by cops.

So long as you're white, he forgot to add.

Or do you think Driving While Black is just a meme made up for jokes?
 
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So long as you're white, he forgot to add.

Or do you think Driving While Black is just a meme made up for jokes?

Let's relate some things.

Plane crashes get news. Most car accidents don't. Why? One is rarer than the other.
Police stuff gets news. Why? It's rarer than the norm. Added: touchy social issue of the day/week/month/year. The last really big flare up like this was probably the Rodney King incident. Hmmm.

I agree that some PDs need to get fixed. But it's not as widespread as some think/believe.
 
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No offense but that is completely irrelevant.

Let me ask you this have you ever had a cop flat out attack you for standing around and looking like a generic criminal in a sketch?

Less white perps, less opportunity to be confused for one.

And don't confuse me for saying cops can do no wrong - they have shitbags and they should be fired/prosecuted.
 
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Look, I recognize cops aren't the only cause of this...there were two African-American men walking around my lilly white neighborhood last year around this time. A couple of the more busy body housewives almost called the cops on them for nothing more suspicious than walking around the neighborhood, never mind that they were also dressed in suits. It turned out they were canvassing for the GOP.

I guarantee, though, that if it were two white guys dressed half as well, those same housewives wouldn't have even posted about it on the neighborhood Facebook page, let alone threaten to call the cops about them. If the cops had been called, they probably wouldn't have done anything, but there's always the off chance they would have, when white people would never be put in that situation to begin with.

I'm just saying, just because I haven't had a bad run in with a cop doesn't mean that every black person who has is lying. And who knows how many more run-ins I might have had if I had a different skin color.
 
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Thinking back, I have been pulled over one other time for...get this...driving while white.

Driving back from a MN Twins game, got a little lost, ended up on West Broadway (for you MPLS locals). The bad part. Cop asked what I was doing in that part of town at that time of night (guarantee he was thinking: buying, or selling, drugs). Told him I was lost, showed him my ID for address, etc. He told me to move along, don't bother obeying stoplights, just get out of that part of town. Gave me his card in case another cop pulled me over for running stoplights.
 
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Any red-blooded male that's been to h.s parties, college parties, college bars, frat houses, concerts, townie bars, night clubs, etc. and driven a car for more than a few years has run into cops. Yes, I'm white.

Someone posted a YouTube video in one of the threads here that calculated the number of interactions with cops that go badly and it was tiny. But we have this thread. Not a thread about crime. Not a thread about bad teachers whom have influence over our children. Not a thread about bad lawyers, pedophiles, gang violence, organized crime. Nothing about communities that refuse to cooperate with cops mo matter what. Nothing about the other side of the aisle that brings nothing to the table. About the x% of bad cops. And we have posters that have in essence said cops are scum, morons that couldn't get a job anywhere else, their guns are an extension of their dicks, mentally deficient, etc.

Something has to be done about reducing the amount of bad behavior performed by cops without question. Call that out and call the dirtbags out, but stop short of accusing the entire industry of being criminals with badges.

Standing ovation. Well said.
 
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Standing ovation. Well said.

Lawyers, teachers, and pedophiles screwing up generally don't involve killing people.

Gang violence and organized crime don't involve killings that are sanctioned by the government and thereafter given the "nothing to see here citizen, move along" treatment.
 
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Lawyers, teachers, and pedophiles screwing up generally don't involve killing people.

Gang violence and organized crime don't involve killings that are sanctioned by the government and thereafter given the "nothing to see here citizen, move along" treatment.

They only succeed in screwing up people for life. Mentally or otherwise. Sometimes the mental state is worse than death. But that's none of my business. /Kermitmeme
 
Lawyers, teachers, and pedophiles screwing up generally don't involve killing people.

A cop screwing up doesn't always result in death. A lawyer screwing up can cause an innocent person going to jail, a bad teacher can scar a person fior life, and did you really just say a pedophile ain't so bad?
 
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He's saying that we sometimes get off easy with cops because we're white while a black person in that same situation might have been given a ticket or a trip to the slammer or worse.

I think fishy knew exactly what Clown meant. He's just being conservatively obtuse.
 
A cop screwing up doesn't always result in death. A lawyer screwing up can cause an innocent person going to jail, a bad teacher can scar a person fior life, and did you really just say a pedophile ain't so bad?

A pedophile who kills someone is a murderer. And there were threads dedicated to the priest scandals, so you were wrong about that one anyway.

I don't think you're as willfully obtuse as fishy, so you must recognize that cops face greater scrutiny because they are the arm of the government that is empowered to enforce the law by force.

They also get away with more than anyone except for prosecuting attorneys due to the built in immunities in the legal system. An average attorney or doctor still faces malpractice claims and criminal charges if they screw up badly enough. A county attorney has absolute immunity for anything done in the role of a prosecutor. Cops have qualified immunity which is almost as strong.
 
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