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Concussions
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Blackbeard
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Re: Concussions
From the last paragraph in the article "How Atletes Get Great"...interview of David Epstein...
"Of course, with the concussion crisis, there’s clearly a gene that predisposes people to sustaining more damage from getting hit in the head than other people and I think it’s crazy that testing for it is not in wider use. I understand the fears of it going into wider use, but this isn’t a place where you should be hiding from any information. Even though it’s just statistical info, it’s not destiny to have a gene."
From the last paragraph in the article "How Atletes Get Great"...interview of David Epstein...
"Of course, with the concussion crisis, there’s clearly a gene that predisposes people to sustaining more damage from getting hit in the head than other people and I think it’s crazy that testing for it is not in wider use. I understand the fears of it going into wider use, but this isn’t a place where you should be hiding from any information. Even though it’s just statistical info, it’s not destiny to have a gene."
HockeyEast33
New member
Re: Concussions
No good place for this question, so I'll throw it out here because it might be marginally related(??) - did anyone see the penalty that got Yale's Jamie Haddad a suspension on Friday against Princeton? Watched her play for years and never would have pegged her for a penalty resulting in a suspension..... and the penalty was a simple checking penalty (not charging, hit to the head, hit from behind, boarding, roughing, etc.) and I don't know that I've ever seen a player suspended for a checking penalty before. Just curious...
No good place for this question, so I'll throw it out here because it might be marginally related(??) - did anyone see the penalty that got Yale's Jamie Haddad a suspension on Friday against Princeton? Watched her play for years and never would have pegged her for a penalty resulting in a suspension..... and the penalty was a simple checking penalty (not charging, hit to the head, hit from behind, boarding, roughing, etc.) and I don't know that I've ever seen a player suspended for a checking penalty before. Just curious...
brookyone
Deport Right Wing Nuts
Re: Concussions
agree 100%.
what I have noticed over many [ok, too many] years....is that because of the "no checking" in girls hockey....the girls never seem to develop that "feeling" you get when you know you are about to get drilled....and as a result, may hits [intentional or otherwise] come as a complete shock to the recipient....and they don't defend against the hit. I learned very early on...like age 8 or so...that you never trust anyone on the ice....always expect the other player to hit you...Always. Do that, and many if not most concussions could be avoided.
agree 100%.
what I have noticed over many [ok, too many] years....is that because of the "no checking" in girls hockey....the girls never seem to develop that "feeling" you get when you know you are about to get drilled....and as a result, may hits [intentional or otherwise] come as a complete shock to the recipient....and they don't defend against the hit. I learned very early on...like age 8 or so...that you never trust anyone on the ice....always expect the other player to hit you...Always. Do that, and many if not most concussions could be avoided.
Blackbeard
Well-known member
Re: Concussions
Her claim that "a lack of strength and conditioning is a big reason for the alarmingly high incidence of concussions in girls’ hockey" wouldn't seem to hold much water, if any, at the D1 level.
Her claim that "a lack of strength and conditioning is a big reason for the alarmingly high incidence of concussions in girls’ hockey" wouldn't seem to hold much water, if any, at the D1 level.
Re: Concussions
I have read that weaker neck muscles is a contributing factor. I don't know how much strength training women - or men - do on their necks.
I met a guy when we liven in Florida who was a retired carny. His gimmick was people would pay a dollar to go 3 rounds with him & if they could knock him out they won $500. He claimed he never paid out partly because nobody knows how to throw a punch but mostly because because he used to lift weights with his neck. He had head gear with a 25lg disk on it & he would raise & lower it for hours. But that is not evidence, just anecdote.
I have read that weaker neck muscles is a contributing factor. I don't know how much strength training women - or men - do on their necks.
I met a guy when we liven in Florida who was a retired carny. His gimmick was people would pay a dollar to go 3 rounds with him & if they could knock him out they won $500. He claimed he never paid out partly because nobody knows how to throw a punch but mostly because because he used to lift weights with his neck. He had head gear with a 25lg disk on it & he would raise & lower it for hours. But that is not evidence, just anecdote.
brookyone
Deport Right Wing Nuts
Re: Concussions
The neck roll while bridged / arched inverted supported completely by your head on the mat...and feet at the other end.
Anyone else have to do those?
I remember neck muscle exercises we had to do in PhyEd that were from the training regimen of the wrestling team. Recently read when thinking about this very topic that those exercises are no longer recommended.
The neck roll while bridged / arched inverted supported completely by your head on the mat...and feet at the other end.
Anyone else have to do those?
Blackbeard
Well-known member
Re: Concussions
Yes, I realize that's part of the issue but she was referring to core strength and overall strength which is what my comment was addressing.
Interesting story, by the way.
Yes, I realize that's part of the issue but she was referring to core strength and overall strength which is what my comment was addressing.
Interesting story, by the way.
Blackbeard
Well-known member
Re: Concussions
On the surface these types of things usually seem logical at first glance...but when government gets involved there is always mission creep and unintended consequences...
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toron...s-concussion-rules-for-youth-sports-1.3336575
On the surface these types of things usually seem logical at first glance...but when government gets involved there is always mission creep and unintended consequences...
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toron...s-concussion-rules-for-youth-sports-1.3336575
Blackbeard
Well-known member
Re: Concussions
Originally posted by Brookster in another thread...don't miss the video below the article...you have to scroll down thru some ads to get to it...
http://www.twincities.com/sports/ci_29283287/womens-hockey-grows-bigger-faster-and-more-dire
Originally posted by Brookster in another thread...don't miss the video below the article...you have to scroll down thru some ads to get to it...
http://www.twincities.com/sports/ci_29283287/womens-hockey-grows-bigger-faster-and-more-dire
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PrincetonFan
Baker Rink Irregular
Re: Concussions
Here's an article in today's New York Times on the subject of concussions in women's hockey:
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/20/s...hockey-as-stars-are-sidelined.html?ref=sports
Here's an article in today's New York Times on the subject of concussions in women's hockey:
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/20/s...hockey-as-stars-are-sidelined.html?ref=sports
Blackbeard
Well-known member
Re: Concussions
Concussion and suicide connection...
http://www.cbc.ca/radio/thecurrent/...iple-risk-of-suicide-study-suggests-1.3441633
Concussion and suicide connection...
http://www.cbc.ca/radio/thecurrent/...iple-risk-of-suicide-study-suggests-1.3441633
pokechecker
Banned
Re: Concussions
we are in the early stages and there are going to be a lot of falsehoods, like the poster that said there was a link between Alzheimers and concucussions
we are in the early stages and there are going to be a lot of falsehoods, like the poster that said there was a link between Alzheimers and concucussions
Re: Concussions
A reporter for WCCO-TV in Minneapolis talked about his own road to recovery after suffering a concussion.
http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2016/02/29/bill-hudson-concussion-recovery/
A reporter for WCCO-TV in Minneapolis talked about his own road to recovery after suffering a concussion.
http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2016/02/29/bill-hudson-concussion-recovery/
Blackbeard
Well-known member
Re: Concussions
Mr. Schoolboy Socks weighs in on concussions. Don't know if this is a good thing or a bad thing. Maybe he should stick to politics but it seems he can't avoid a photo op...never met a camera he didn't like. What was he doing there in the first place?
http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/justin-trudeau-nhl-concussion-debate-1.3511509
Mr. Schoolboy Socks weighs in on concussions. Don't know if this is a good thing or a bad thing. Maybe he should stick to politics but it seems he can't avoid a photo op...never met a camera he didn't like. What was he doing there in the first place?
http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/justin-trudeau-nhl-concussion-debate-1.3511509
pokechecker
Banned
Re: Concussions
more interesting and important than the above two fluff articles:
http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/nhl-unsealed-emails-1.3510466
"Bettman then expresses doubt over whether the NHL Players' Association would consent to eliminating fighting and, with it, the enforcer's role.
"I believe the fighting and possible concussions could aggravate a condition, but if you think about the tragedies there were probably certain predispositions," the commissioner writes. "Again, though, the bigger issue is whether the [Players' Association] would consent to in effect eliminate a certain type of 'role' and player. And, if they don't, we might try to do it anyway and take the 'fight' (pun intended)."
Shanahan replies, "I thought [the players'] current position on illegal checks to the head is that it should encompass ALL contact. If we keep this simply about concussion and brain injuries then how can they argue against it."
more interesting and important than the above two fluff articles:
http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/nhl-unsealed-emails-1.3510466
"Bettman then expresses doubt over whether the NHL Players' Association would consent to eliminating fighting and, with it, the enforcer's role.
"I believe the fighting and possible concussions could aggravate a condition, but if you think about the tragedies there were probably certain predispositions," the commissioner writes. "Again, though, the bigger issue is whether the [Players' Association] would consent to in effect eliminate a certain type of 'role' and player. And, if they don't, we might try to do it anyway and take the 'fight' (pun intended)."
Shanahan replies, "I thought [the players'] current position on illegal checks to the head is that it should encompass ALL contact. If we keep this simply about concussion and brain injuries then how can they argue against it."
Re: Concussions
Did anyone see the ESPN 30 for 30, on ABC this past weekend on the 85 Bears? They had a good 10 minutes on Jim McMahon and his situation...where now the doctors are looking at his C-1 thru C-5 cervical column and the neck to see what his "concussive" symptoms were caused by...and they found the spinal column had been pinching off the spinal fluid and other cerebral fluids from exiting his brain, which caused a build up of toxins, creating his problem....while not totally relieved, the Rx is much better.....point being that the concussion issue has to be extended to include the neck and cervical vertebrae.....
Did anyone see the ESPN 30 for 30, on ABC this past weekend on the 85 Bears? They had a good 10 minutes on Jim McMahon and his situation...where now the doctors are looking at his C-1 thru C-5 cervical column and the neck to see what his "concussive" symptoms were caused by...and they found the spinal column had been pinching off the spinal fluid and other cerebral fluids from exiting his brain, which caused a build up of toxins, creating his problem....while not totally relieved, the Rx is much better.....point being that the concussion issue has to be extended to include the neck and cervical vertebrae.....