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Complain About the WCHA Awards Right Here!!

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Tipsy McStagger said:
We got the two biggest awards. I am not going to complain at all.
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Which of the awards do you put with Student-Athlete as the top two?

GopherFan89 said:
I did. And I stand by my post.
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Then good thing people who know what they're talking about vote on this one, huh?

MinnesotaNorthStar said:
By this logic Drew LeBlanc lost his "right to be a senior" last year because he got hurt and shouldn't have even played this year...so there's that.
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Not necessarily... the award isn't for "Top Player in his first four years of college hockey." But Rookie of the Year by definition is top first-year player. Though for the record, I don't really care either way if Grimaldi is considered a rookie in this thing or not.
 
Stauber1 said:
But despite Williams having a better year, Wilcox still had a great freshman season and earned the buzz he was awarded by local media. I'm not really sure what your gripe is. Did St. Cloud media give as much hype to Schmidt as they did Jenson? Did Mankato media give Haula as much hype as they gave Hayes? Who do you think go more ink in the Denver Post, Boivin or LaLeggia?
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Very well stated Stauber! 2 very good seasons by 2 very good goaltenders!
 
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Wisko McBadgerton said:
I will let him know. It's really going to mean a lot to him coming from the Chris Clark fan club! Even more than being 3rd in the nation in goals scored. Awesome!
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Watch your mouth and respect your elders!

And the guy in 6th in the nation is a freshman, go no PP time, and got snubbed for all-WCHA rookie team. It happens.
 
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First Time said:
Dowd?
29 points (11G, 18A) isn't enough I guess.
Bjugstad doesn't deserve to be there IMO
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Disagree. Bjugstad's stats might not be as good, but it's because they can't give assists to a third man. Bjugstad is always double teamed, so he sets up zone for the line after two more passes there is usually a goal. On the power play teams have to play a zone and Nick, simply feast's on the man advantage. Rau, Buddish, and Schmidt are all great players, but that line is only the best in the nation, because Bjugs is the quarterback who is a man among boys.
 
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shiftyjedi said:
Disagree. Bjugstad's stats might not be as good, but it's because they can't give assists to a third man. Bjugstad is always double teamed, so he sets up zone for the line after two more passes there is usually a goal. On the power play teams have to play a zone and Nick, simply feast's on the man advantage. Rau, Buddish, and Schmidt are all great players, but that line is only the best in the nation, because Bjugs is the quarterback who is a man among boys.
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That is the dumbest thing I have ever heard.
 
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Wisko McBadgerton said:
I will let him know. It's really going to mean a lot to him coming from the Chris Clark fan club! Even more than being 3rd in the nation in goals scored. Awesome!
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Dillon Simpson is younger than Mersch and also a junior, so the award should be named after him.
 
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Tipsy McStagger said:
That is the dumbest thing I have ever heard.
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Well it wouldn't be so stupid if you were actually watching Gopher footage. Or saw what was going on. I personally would have put Nic Dowd over Lietner. Saint Cloud might have a case when it comes to Kossila and Brodzenski but I think they both took votes away from each other. Bjugstad definitely deserves 3rd team even more than Haula deserves second team.
 
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Dirty said:
Dillon Simpson is younger than Mersch and also a junior, so the award should be named after him.
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I think your counting in Canadian years. Once you do the conversion to American years pretty sure you'll find he's actually 26.

In fact, I'm not sure Canadians are even allowed to play in the NCAA unless they're at least 24?
 
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shiftyjedi said:
well it wouldn't be so stupid if you were actually watching gopher footage. Or saw what was going on. I personally would have put nic dowd over lietner. Saint cloud might have a case when it comes to kossila and brodzenski but i think they both took votes away from each other. Bjugstad definitely deserves 3rd team even more than haula deserves second team.
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jdubbs 3.0?
 
Re: Complain About the WCHA Awards Right Here!!

shiftyjedi said:
Disagree. Bjugstad's stats might not be as good, but it's because they can't give assists to a third man. Bjugstad is always double teamed, so he sets up zone for the line after two more passes there is usually a goal. On the power play teams have to play a zone and Nick, simply feast's on the man advantage. Rau, Buddish, and Schmidt are all great players, but that line is only the best in the nation, because Bjugs is the quarterback who is a man among boys.
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So he made it over Dowd because...everyone's double-teaming him so he can't score?
 
shiftyjedi said:
Well it wouldn't be so stupid if you were actually watching Gopher footage. Or saw what was going on. I personally would have put Nic Dowd over Lietner. Saint Cloud might have a case when it comes to Kossila and Brodzenski but I think they both took votes away from each other. Bjugstad definitely deserves 3rd team even more than Haula deserves second team.
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I am saying the statement of "if they gave out assists to three people" is stupid. A. At that point why not just give one to everyone on the ice? B. If you give them to Bjugstad, you have to give them to the other players too. How do you know he would get more than other assists?

I have watched plenty of Gophers games. Rarely does a weekend go by where I don't watch at least part of their games. Bjugstad's main move on the PP is just to camp out in the circle and shoot one timers. I don't think there is anything wrong with it, but let's not act like he is a puck distributor. If he was, he wouldn't have more goals than assists.

I think a case could be made either way. I personally thought Dowd or Archibald deserved it more than Hayes or Bjugstad but it is a tough call.
 
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Tipsy McStagger said:
hCFB39D77
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He was serious. Rightfully. :D
 
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shiftyjedi "but it's because they can't give assists to a third man."

You've been keeping this stat? So how many does Bjugstad have and how many does Dowd have so we can compare?
How do you define "dominates the ice" because Motzko said Dowd is a warrior and the heart and soul of the team. He blocks shots, he battles every part of the ice not just the offensive zone.

goldy_331 "and he may well be ahead of Haula's program, but I do know Budish is quite the student and CSM is quite rigorous"

The article compared Leblanc to Bjugstad, Schmidt and Haula. There was no mention of Budish. I was saying the author left out the major when comparing and completely discounted Leblanc's achievement.
 
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