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Commercial Aviation/Airplane Question

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jerphisch said:
I forget where it was, but there sis an article by another pilot that says no it isn't plausible, the plance made too many moves after the initial turn around for that theory to hold water.
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I don't know if those turns have been verified. Last radar contact is in the Malacca Straits in the vicinity of the airport he's talking about travelling westerly.

NMU8405 said:
If there was a fire and they did turn to the nearest airport, why wouldn't they communicate that with ATC or their dispatch? It just doesn't make sense to me that they would turn the plane around and say "Good Night" without any mention of an emergency.
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Aviate, navigate, communicate...in that order. Communicate only when you have time. By the time they could...fire may have taken out all communications.

It should also be noted...from what I've seen I don't believe ACARS on the 777 can be disabled from the cockpit.
 
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If US intelligence knew the jet was off course, turned of transponders, etc before fuel was gone(assuming hijackers) they know where it went. if it crashed before they knew it was off course, then not so sure

There is an article somewhere that claims folks on the Malidives? saw a plane flying low, white with red stripe. But officials have said it didn't show up on radar so...
 
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walrus said:
If US intelligence knew the jet was off course, turned of transponders, etc before fuel was gone(assuming hijackers) they know where it went. if it crashed before they knew it was off course, then not so sure

There is an article somewhere that claims folks on the Malidives? saw a plane flying low, white with red stripe. But officials have said it didn't show up on radar so...
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That's been debunked. The timing would have put it at 9:15 Malaysia time, last sat ping was 8:11, next would have been 9:11.
 
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this writer said that the tires were probably on fire because they took off from sea level, in a heavy plane, and it was hot.

well ****, mookie ain't ever taking a plane from miami/FLL/naples/sarasota again!!!!!
 
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walrus said:
News playing up the angle that it has to be credible as the Australian Prime Minister is the one who announced the find. Not sure why the plane would be where it was, south of Australia
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not familiar with ocean currents in that area....someone with more knowledge and skill than might might be able to find a prevailing current map of the Indian Ocean??


PS Malaysia has been complaining that other countries haven't been as cooperative as they might have been, maybe the PM was making a conciliatory gesture toward them in response??????


no surprise that countries don't want to disclose what their military radar might or might not reveal, IMHO, who wants to give out information that shows possible limitations...
 
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Seeing reports now that the last ACARS transmission showed a normal route to Beijing with no prelogged deviation.
 
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Official statement from the Malaysian PM that the plane went down in the Indian Ocean.

Based on a new analysis of satellite data from a British company. More details to follow, I'm sure.
 
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mookie1995 said:
this writer said that the tires were probably on fire because they took off from sea level, in a heavy plane, and it was hot.

well ****, mookie ain't ever taking a plane from miami/FLL/naples/sarasota again!!!!!
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well I have to wonder what the source of heat was to make the tires catch fire on takeoff. Usually the source of heat is the brakes because just rolling a tire on the ground certainly doesn't create that much heat. Even a dragging brake would not cause enough heat. And the brake temps are monitored prior to takeoff to make sure they are low enough. So overall this person who said this is a boob. Kind of like the idiots who don't watch anything but HE and then talk about how bad the WCHA is.How the heck do they know.

As far as fires elsewhere in the airplane. The rate of fires is extremely low. One in maybe 100 million flight hours. the last fire accident I heard of was swiss air in halifax. So add to that. Then most in flight fires are minor and get put out, so now you are up to maybe 1 in 200 million or 300 million flight hours. Then add the actions of the crew, which further reduces your odds. etc. thus the odds are real remote that it caught fire. Sure anything can happen, but is it likely....
 
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SteveP said:
What's our vector, Victor? :D

Seriously, that's pretty ****ed scary, and it goes on every day around the globe.
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Just go listen to jfk ground on the internet every so often. This is nothing!. Or to o'hare ground too. Airlines are unwilling to spend money to train guys better than they are. At least air china tries. The same can not be said for some others.
 
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manurespreader said:
Just go listen to jfk ground on the internet every so often. This is nothing!. Or to o'hare ground too. Airlines are unwilling to spend money to train guys better than they are. At least air china tries. The same can not be said for some others.
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That sure makes it easier for UAV's to respond to ATC commands "autonomously and in a human-like fashion." Sounds like you can just do whatever the h you want. :)
 
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