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College Football 2010: Dude, Where's my Conference?

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Spartanforlife4 said:
Wasn't the WAC the original SuperConference with 16 teams?
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Bob Gray said:
I think so, although I don't think that lasted long and I don't think it was ever very viable.
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The Mountain West split off from the 16 team WAC. Almost have to wonder what would have happened with the BCS if they did manage to stick together a little longer. All together, they might have gotten themselves a seat at the BCS table.


I bet the next domino to fall might be Louisana Tech to the Sun Belt. They were a school that got hosed on the wrong side of the WAC/MWC split, and well, if I was their AD, I would be calling them up because as of right now, they're a far more stable conference, and they're right within the Sunbelt's footprint.
 
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bigmrg74 said:
The Mountain West split off from the 16 team WAC. Almost have to wonder what would have happened with the BCS if they did manage to stick together a little longer. All together, they might have gotten themselves a seat at the BCS table.


I bet the next domino to fall might be Louisana Tech to the Sun Belt. They were a school that got hosed on the wrong side of the WAC/MWC split, and well, if I was their AD, I would be calling them up because as of right now, they're a far more stable conference, and they're right within the Sunbelt's footprint.
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I'd probably call Conference USA first. The Sunbelt is and will likely remain the worst conference in D-IA by a large margin. It will be interesting if the MWC is capped at 12 teams, what happens to the stragglers out west. There maybe some viable candidates already mentioned for promotion from D-1AA (but I wouldn't count on Davis or SLO riding to the rescue with the current UC/CSU budget constraints), but if that doesn't materialize, then what?
 
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In through the nose, out through the mouth
In through the nose, out through the mouth-

repeat- we'll be ok, vandals, we'll be ok, vandals....

While everything is still up in the air, the "collapse" of the WAC is a long way off- neither Fresno nor Nevada can compete until 2012, I hear. If you are going to correct- find the right teams, and do it well.

I agree that LTU really isn't a great fit, but Idaho and they came from the Sun Belt a few years ago- terrible and WAY to big of a conference. I honestly can't fathom a Louisiana team that's a small school being ok with travelling to the reaches of the west.. :confused:

There are quite a few quality choices that can make the move, and there's still a lot of talk how Utah State turned down the MWC, and that they are working with BYU- so this thing still may work out for the WAC.

But don't be rash. I'm betting there is more hope than much else in the MWC, and that the WAC just needs to stabilize to be like the MAC. Then the both could work together to get better. WAC teams need to integrate their locations with the PAC10 like many MAC teams have done with the Big 10.

We'll be ok.

We'll be ok.

really.

We'll be ok.

(and D1-AA isn't that bad, at least you get a REAL NCAA trophy for winning that)
 
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BoomGoestheDynamite said:
I'd probably call Conference USA first. The Sunbelt is and will likely remain the worst conference in D-IA by a large margin. It will be interesting if the MWC is capped at 12 teams, what happens to the stragglers out west. There maybe some viable candidates already mentioned for promotion from D-1AA (but I wouldn't count on Davis or SLO riding to the rescue with the current UC/CSU budget constraints), but if that doesn't materialize, then what?
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C-USA is already at 12 teams. While there is always the threat of them themselves getting raided, I'm not sure they would be interested of just adding a team just to protect the rest of the schools. Besides, C-USA could probably call anybody in the Sunbelt right now if say the Big East swipes Memphis and Marshall, and those Sunbelt schools would jump.

C-USA would take the call, humor them a bit, as in this day in age it would probably be bad for them to burn bridges with anybody that they might later on need. But as of right now, I don't see C-USA needing schools that badly at this moment.
 
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NMU8405 said:
There article mentions Montana as moving to D-1 without a full 16 sports. If that happens, it could open a whole can of worms for 1-AA or d-II teams
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Indeed, losing Montana and/or another school would be a big blow to the Big Sky, which in turn would probably go after other D1-AA schools as well. That could reach easily into the Midwest, where the Missouri Valley might want to look into picking up UND and USD to keep NDSU and SoDakSt State happy. My money would be on those schools wanting to get back together. And there is that crazy theory that UNO in Omaha would want to move up to D1-AA, inviting them and adding the other 2 Dakota's would bring the MVC to a nice even number of 12.
 
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Bob Gray said:
Interesting twist, as Hawaii is now considering going independent!

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=tsn-166084

Not sure what to think of it, though it's hardly a vote of confidence in the WAC.
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The only reason Hawaii could manage to get any home games by going independent is the 13th game rule for teams traveling to the island. Otherwise, they'd probably be playing 12 road games a year.
 
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Spartanforlife4 said:
The only reason Hawaii could manage to get any home games by going independent is the 13th game rule for teams traveling to the island. Otherwise, they'd probably be playing 12 road games a year.
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Yeah, the money that schools like Texas, OSU, Penn State, USC and others can make with just a home game against some no name school, it more than offsets the cost of flying the team out there to the Islands, and then paying that No Name U to come in to lay down for em.

Could even work out some deal with ESPN to do their games say like Late Friday Nite on Hawai'i Time, which would be like Early Saturday Morning on the east coast. Something starting at like 7 AM EST perhaps?? Not the greatest spot mind you, but with the idea that you're going to get big name schools coming to Hawai'i, that they would have enough eyeballs that would roll outta bed at that time in the morning to watch it, it just might work.
 
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To be fair to Alabama, they are trying to prove their mettle by playing I-AA Georgia State, a team who they have never beaten before. And I know some of you will try to point out that that's because this is the first year they will have had a football team, but you just fail to recognize the awesomeness of the SEC.
 
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Curious as to how a spring football game works. For example, LSU's Purple vs. White game was on yesterday. Didn't really watch it, but would one of those teams consist of the #1 offense and #2 defense? And the other team the #2 offense and #1 defense? That way the 1's and 2's can go against each other?
 
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J.D. said:
Curious as to how a spring football game works. For example, LSU's Purple vs. White game was on yesterday. Didn't really watch it, but would one of those teams consist of the #1 offense and #2 defense? And the other team the #2 offense and #1 defense? That way the 1's and 2's can go against each other?
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Every schools runs it a different way. Some games are offense vs defense, other are what you described, and some switch players at halftime. Each coach will also have a their own scoring system depending on the type of scrimmage. I remember seeing on the news that Western Michigan's spring game was something like 69-13 defense over offense.
 
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French Rage said:
To be fair to Alabama, they are trying to prove their mettle by playing I-AA Georgia State, a team who they have never beaten before. And I know some of you will try to point out that that's because this is the first year they will have had a football team, but you just fail to recognize the awesomeness of the SEC.
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What a generous act by Alabama to agree to play an up-and-coming football team in their first year of existence, giving them so much publicity! Now that's the kind of altruistic SEC this country needs! ;)
 
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J.D. said:
Curious as to how a spring football game works. For example, LSU's Purple vs. White game was on yesterday. Didn't really watch it, but would one of those teams consist of the #1 offense and #2 defense? And the other team the #2 offense and #1 defense? That way the 1's and 2's can go against each other?
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It's entirely up to the coaching staff of the school involved as to how they want to run the game. Sometimes they shoot for 1s vs 1s, 2s vs 2s. Sometimes they try to balance things. Sometimes they do full-time offense vs. full-time defense and implement a modified Stableford scoring system.
 
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Craig P. said:
It's entirely up to the coaching staff of the school involved as to how they want to run the game. Sometimes they shoot for 1s vs 1s, 2s vs 2s. Sometimes they try to balance things. Sometimes they do full-time offense vs. full-time defense and implement a modified Stableford scoring system.
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I know a lot of coaches would love for the Spring Game to just go away.
 
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Craig P. said:
It's entirely up to the coaching staff of the school involved as to how they want to run the game. Sometimes they shoot for 1s vs 1s, 2s vs 2s. Sometimes they try to balance things. Sometimes they do full-time offense vs. full-time defense and implement a modified Stableford scoring system.
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Stanford this spring basically picked two captains and let them draft teams, so each team ended up with a mix of 1s and 2s. Overall I don't think it was that good of an idea since the players really weren't used to each other and the game was uneventful, all field goals basically.
 
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