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College Football 2010: Dude, Where's my Conference?

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French Rage said:
Further, Colorado-Utah isn't a rivalry on par with the other 5 rivalries (as far as I'm aware) (is it even a rivalry at all?). I would've preferred a crazy 16 team conference or just keeping it as it is, now it's sort of a weird middle ground that seems unfinished. Also if they do do divisions they better keep all the CA teams in one...
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Yeah, whoever gets stuck with the newbies is going to be ****ed. The thing the PacNW schools depend on is making annual trips to SoCal to stock their recruiting base. They'll throw a fit if they get placed in with CU and Utah.

Also, the new numbers reportedly guaranteed by Beebe and Big 12 for the new TV deal weren't set in stone but were projections. This really makes no sense for most of the Big 12 other than Texas. Its amazing how everyone (especially A&M) knuckled under for this. The marriage of convenience is still in effect.
 
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BoomGoestheDynamite said:
The thing the PacNW schools depend on is making annual trips to SoCal to stock their recruiting base. They'll throw a fit if they get placed in with CU and Utah.
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I'm not sure if UW would be that badly hurt, but UO and OSU would be devastated. (WSU is hopeless anyway. :p )

You can't put all the Cali schools in one group, that would create a donut hole division. You could get away with splitting up USC/UCLA or Cal/Stanford as long as you assured them as cross-group legacy games, but that would defy geographical sense.

Clearly the only thing to do is go to a 14 game season with 3 NCs. I'm sure USC would be on board with it. :p
 
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Kepler said:
I'm not sure if UW would be that badly hurt, but UO and OSU would be devastated. (WSU is hopeless anyway. :p )
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For UW it would give Jake Locker a couple new teams to lose to. But it's OK since he's so explosive and dynamic and all.
 
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Terrierbyassociation said:
He said so many different things, its quite entertaining for him to end up being right.

But at the same time he's ending up wrong on his other predictions. :)
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I fully believe that Chip Brown was getting fed information straight from Texas and posting the information that they wanted to be posted. They played the B12 like a drum and used him to do it.

The only reason he was "wrong" is because he was being used by Texas to push out their own propaganda.
 
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RMUColonials said:
I fully believe that Chip Brown was getting fed information straight from Texas and posting the information that they wanted to be posted. They played the B12 like a drum and used him to do it.

The only reason he was "wrong" is because he was being used by Texas to push out their own propaganda.
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I think that much is pretty clear at this point...way to grab your ankles Big 12-2! :D
 
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Are we really going to wind up with a 10-team Big 12 and a 12-team Big 10? That would be great. :p
 
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BoomGoestheDynamite said:
Yeah, whoever gets stuck with the newbies is going to be ****ed. The thing the PacNW schools depend on is making annual trips to SoCal to stock their recruiting base. They'll throw a fit if they get placed in with CU and Utah.

Also, the new numbers reportedly guaranteed by Beebe and Big 12 for the new TV deal weren't set in stone but were projections. This really makes no sense for most of the Big 12 other than Texas. Its amazing how everyone (especially A&M) knuckled under for this. The marriage of convenience is still in effect.
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I saw a projection somewhere that had Colorado/Utah with the Oregon and Washington schools in a northern division. And Arizona and California in the other. Geographically, Utah and Colorado make sense to go with the Arizona schools, but then the last two teams in with them is very problematic.

I can see where the Pacific NW teams would be peaved to not be in the same division as the California teams, but given that there are four teams in the Pacific NW and 4 teams in California, you can't have them all in one division in a 12 team league.

As an ASU fan, I'm glad my team isn't going to be stuck in a division with a bunch of Big 12 teams who we have no history with.
 
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Bob Gray said:
As an ASU fan, I'm glad my team isn't going to be stuck in a division with a bunch of Big 12 teams who we have no history with.
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Being a former WAC team, you should then welcome with open arms Utah....

History is relative.
 
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UCLA
USC
Arizona
ASU
Colorado
Utah


Stanford
Cal
WSU
UW
UO
OSU

Makes as much sense as anything else.

Unless you want to come up with the obvious three-division alignment.
 
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ExileOnDaytonStreet said:
UCLA
USC
Arizona
ASU
Colorado
Utah


Stanford
Cal
WSU
UW
UO
OSU

Makes as much sense as anything else.

Unless you want to come up with the obvious three-division alignment.
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With a nine game conference schedule, you should only miss two opponents every year so it isn't catastrophic either way. The problem might be when Cal/Stanford move to ensure a permanent rivalry with the SoCal schools and the Pac NW opposes it.

They could also just say screw it, will pass on the divisions and the title game and stay single table. I also have no idea where they'd play the Championship game. Phoenix maybe?
 
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ExileOnDaytonStreet said:
UCLA
USC
Arizona
ASU
Colorado
Utah


Stanford
Cal
WSU
UW
UO
OSU

Makes as much sense as anything else.

Unless you want to come up with the obvious three-division alignment.
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The California schools would never accept being split up, so I don't see it ever happening. Other than that problem, your suggested alignment makes the most geographic sense.
 
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ExileOnDaytonStreet said:
Between Phoenix, LA and Seattle, there's enough quality stadiums to suggest rotating.

That or Vegas.
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The Coliseum and to a lesser extent the Rose Bowl aren't really aging well, but I imagine 18 million people in Greater LA makes that irrelevant. After a few years of paying their dues I suppose Denver might get a sniff as well.
 
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ExileOnDaytonStreet said:
Between Phoenix, LA and Seattle, there's enough quality stadiums to suggest rotating.

That or Vegas.
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The Bay Area also has Candlestick, Oakland Colesium, and the new 49ers stadium whenever it actually gets built. Basically everywhere other than OU/OSU has a good one nearby.
 
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Bob Gray said:
The California schools would never accept being split up, so I don't see it ever happening.
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If they had rivalry games they could get around it. Stanford-Cal, Cal-UCLA*, and UCLA-USC are the only pairings that anybody cares about.

(* and only the state legislature cares about this one)
 
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Mack Brown and Rick Neuheisel are slated to be on the Dan Patrick Show tomorrow. Probably not together though... ;)
 
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