College Football 2009: Where Championships are won by a majority vote

[BoomGoestheDynamite]

Re: College Football 2009: Where Championships are won by a majority vote

No one is saying that we don't get it, we get it perfectly, it's just stupid. I'm no USC fan but I respect the hell out of them for playing a challenging NC schedule every season. Same with Notre Dame.

Florida plays the Meek Sisters of the Blind twice a year. That is worthy of ridicule.

They like to ignore the past 7 years and pretend Florida State is still a good football team and thus evidence they play a "strong" OOC schedule.

 

[blockski]

Re: College Football 2009: Where Championships are won by a majority vote

It's pretty well documented that they are willing to play ANYONE from BCS conferences, anywhere, with no return date in Boise required (as is usually the norm with scheduling deals). No takers. It's the BCS shell game. If you're in a BCS conference and you withdraw into your shell, you boost the likelihood of playing in a BCS bowl or the national championship game with an undefeated record. It's not clairvoyant.

Well, to play devil's advocate, it's not that easy. Boise is willing to play anyone without a return date, but that doesn't mean they'll do it for free, nor does it mean that any other team has open dates available to play them.

There was a great article a while back about Wisconsin's non-conference scheduling, looking at the entire process involved. Basically, it's a miracle that any games ever get scheduled.

 

[French Rage]

Re: College Football 2009: Where Championships are won by a majority vote

Looks like Pete Carroll is going to Seattle to become the Seahawks coach, he wants to take Jeremy Bates with him.

For some reason he's going to be given full personnel control.

Basically everyone loses but Pete Carroll's wallet.

Any guesses on who will replace him?

 

[bigblue_dl]

Re: College Football 2009: Where Championships are won by a majority vote

Any guesses on who will replace him?

Brewster is probably the frontrunner.

 

[Terrierbyassociation]

Re: College Football 2009: Where Championships are won by a majority vote

Any guesses on who will replace him?

Jim Harbaugh.

 

[Slap Shot]

Re: College Football 2009: Where Championships are won by a majority vote

There was a great article a while back about Wisconsin's non-conference scheduling, looking at the entire process involved. Basically, it's a miracle that any games ever get scheduled.

Considering the teams the Gophers have lined up in the coming years I call, "bull$h!t".

 

[French Rage]

Re: College Football 2009: Where Championships are won by a majority vote

Jim Harbaugh.

Well then that's a move up given the last 3 years of matchups.

 

[bronconick]

Re: College Football 2009: Where Championships are won by a majority vote

Brian Kelly, Bobby Petrino and Nick Saban have all indicated interest in the USC job.

 

[Red Cloud]

Re: College Football 2009: Where Championships are won by a majority vote

Well, to play devil's advocate, it's not that easy. Boise is willing to play anyone without a return date, but that doesn't mean they'll do it for free, nor does it mean that any other team has open dates available to play them.

 

[Terrierbyassociation]

Re: College Football 2009: Where Championships are won by a majority vote

JA Adande is saying this is basically a done deal.

 

[bronconick]

Re: College Football 2009: Where Championships are won by a majority vote

Could there be some fire to the smoke of the 5 year old Reggie Bush nonsense and Carroll's sneaking out before his house burns down? God knows why someone would want to go from self-recruiting USC to trying to fix the Seahawks.

 

[Terrierbyassociation]

Re: College Football 2009: Where Championships are won by a majority vote

Could there be some fire to the smoke of the 5 year old Reggie Bush nonsense and Carroll's sneaking out before his house burns down? God knows why someone would want to go from self-recruiting USC to trying to fix the Seahawks.

I doubt it but wouldn't be surprised now.

 

[Jason A]

Re: College Football 2009: Where Championships are won by a majority vote

I could do a whole page on Pete Carroll, NFL coach, and why this will be a disaster. But I have to admit that many coaches learn from past mistakes (see Bill Belichick, Cleveland HC). So I guess we'll just have to wait and see. One of my best friends is from Seattle and we root for them almost every week at the bar, so I'll be happy to pull for the guy, I guess (probably --maybe . . . not making any guarantees here).

 

[Terrierbyassociation]

Re: College Football 2009: Where Championships are won by a majority vote

I could do a whole page on Pete Carroll, NFL coach, and why this will be a disaster. But I have to admit that many coaches learn from past mistakes (see Bill Belichick, Cleveland HC). So I guess we'll just have to wait and see. One of my best friends is from Seattle and we root for them almost every week at the bar, so I'll be happy to pull for the guy, I guess (probably --maybe . . . not making any guarantees here).

Well 1) his Jets tenure wasn't his fault. 2) I have plenty of Patriots fans who have told me Carroll got a raw deal because in the last few years of Parcells regime the drafts were terrible and were terrible during Carroll's era as well. So the teams starts off strongly but then quickly nosedived with no depth.

 

[blockski]

Re: College Football 2009: Where Championships are won by a majority vote

Considering the teams the Gophers have lined up in the coming years I call, "bull$h!t".

Well, if I'm USC, I'm much more willing to take a trip to Minneapolis than I am to go to Madison. That's the problem with a school like Wisconsin, since they're good enough to be a challenge, but they don't offer the huge spotlight like Texas-Ohio State. Minnesota, on the other hand, is both a BCS opponent and a relative tomato can.

 

[bigmrg74]

Re: College Football 2009: Where Championships are won by a majority vote

Basically. This championship is a fraud because there are two undefeated teams with excellent resumes left at the end of the year, not because Texas apparently had a suspect backup plan.

Far as I'm concerned, its just another bowl game.

Boise St. may be undefeated but their resume is hardly what one would call excellent.

And its not Boise State's fault that there isn't a playoff system to force other good teams to play them either.

Thanks TBA nice article. I don't honestly have time to scour the internet for articles. Today for example, work from 6-4, pick up oldest from school practice at 5, take him to his travel team practice at 5:30 and get home at around 7:30 to 8:00.

This still does not change the fact that their resume is not what one would consider worthy of a National Championship chance. Hell they barely beat TCU, what makes you think they could stay with Alabama, Texas, Florida etc. A resume is a compilation of what you have done, not what you could do if this happened or that happened.

I will give you that it is a tough situation for a school like Boise State, but just because no schools will schedule a game with them, does not mean that they would win those games. That may be the nail in the coffin for them in reality. Example, LSU agreed to play Boise State and they beat the tar out of Boise State, that would end the discussion forever for schools from smaller conferences deserving a shot at a national title.

So, Boise could go undefeated for 3-5 years, always just missing out on the BCS bowl because two or more teams from the Big XII, Big Ten and/or SEC has gone undefeated that year, in which they usually thump their opponents in the BCS consolation Bowls, Rose, Sugar, Orange, Fiesta, and then they go out and get that date in the Bayou with LSU and lose a nail-biter by a point and suddenly everything they've done for 3+ years is garbage???

Very nice ***** slap of Nebraska there, too.

Why would every middle level BCS school turn down a visit from BSU? Implicit collusion to protect the BCS monopoly has to be at least in the back of the minds of members of those conferences. Maybe even some overt arm-twisting from the 4-5 schools who control each of those conferences.

Everybody outside the BCS conferences should pull out of the NC$$, create a playoff system, and have their champion challenge the BCS champion.

They could never all the way pull out of the NCAA as they still need the Big Dance money from Bouncyball. And lets remember, The NCAA doesn't exactly regulate the bowls either. So, there's not really anything out there that's keeping schools from the MAC, WAC, MWC, Sunbelt, and C-USA from all banding together and creating an eight team playoff tournament among their champions and maybe anybody else they would want to invite.

 

[bronconick]

Re: College Football 2009: Where Championships are won by a majority vote

Nothing except the fact that a Sun-Belt/MAC/CUSA tournament of champions is a massive money loser. I'd imagine the MWC and WAC would decline since they're getting enough crack from the BCS for their fix right now.

 

[Jason A]

Re: College Football 2009: Where Championships are won by a majority vote

Well 1) his Jets tenure wasn't his fault. 2) I have plenty of Patriots fans who have told me Carroll got a raw deal because in the last few years of Parcells regime the drafts were terrible and were terrible during Carroll's era as well. So the teams starts off strongly but then quickly nosedived with no depth.

Hey, I'm softening on Carroll, so don't push it too far.

But to be fair, Parcells drafted very well (in fact, Belichick critics could say he hasn't won a SB since so many of Parcells' guys left). The first three picks in Parcells' last two drafts were Law, Johnson, Martin, Glenn, Milloy, and Bruschi (no first names necessary if you're a Pats fan). The first three in Carroll's first year were Chris Canty, Brandon Mitchell, and Sedrick Shaw. Carroll supporters' real beef should be with Bobby Grier, and I won't argue that.

 

[bigmrg74]

Re: College Football 2009: Where Championships are won by a majority vote

Nothing except the fact that a Sun-Belt/MAC/CUSA tournament of champions is a massive money loser. I'd imagine the MWC and WAC would decline since they're getting enough crack from the BCS for their fix right now.

The right packaging and marketing plan for it, along with the picking up of the right also-rans from some of the BCS schools, say like an 8-4 Notre Dame, maybe the 4th best SEC team, third best Big Ten, people might start liking the idea of those sucky bowl teams being in a playoff race.

 

[Priceless]

Re: College Football 2009: Where Championships are won by a majority vote

All of the five "minor" conferences get money from the BCS because their teams can accept bids. The thing is, they then have to divide the money... Well, they don't have to split the money, just the conference that sent a team can keep it. Funny thing though...When Boise goes, the vote is always 4-1 in favor of splitting the money. Now that both TCU and Boie have gone, I bet the vote is 3-2 to split the cash...

That's one reason you'll never see the "minor" five conferences get together to challenge the BCS.