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Jimmy has a love affair with Khaki pants...and has been known to have lots of slumber parties at his house with players.
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College Football 19-20: Where We Kinda Want Clemson As Champion.
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Jimmy has a love affair with Khaki pants...and has been known to have lots of slumber parties at his house with players.
Handyman
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alfa,
The problem with Trevor's thinking is this isnt about stopping them from getting the disease. They are probably going to get exposed either way (Clemson already had a bunch of cases so again he is speaking from a position of privilege) whether at home or on campus. The difference is if they get it at home that is their fault and if they get it on campus then the school has liability. He acts like everything will shut down because the athletes are on campus which is a joke. NBA and MLB players cant get out of their own way when it comes to this stuff and they have millions on the line and leagues that are taking this very seriously. 0.0% chance the NCAA players hold themselves accountable and we KNOW plenty of the schools (especially the ones known for partying) arent going to hold them to account until they test positive. And the amount of star treatment that will be given to some players as opposed to others will intensify even higher than it is already.
The problem with Trevor's thinking is this isnt about stopping them from getting the disease. They are probably going to get exposed either way (Clemson already had a bunch of cases so again he is speaking from a position of privilege) whether at home or on campus. The difference is if they get it at home that is their fault and if they get it on campus then the school has liability. He acts like everything will shut down because the athletes are on campus which is a joke. NBA and MLB players cant get out of their own way when it comes to this stuff and they have millions on the line and leagues that are taking this very seriously. 0.0% chance the NCAA players hold themselves accountable and we KNOW plenty of the schools (especially the ones known for partying) arent going to hold them to account until they test positive. And the amount of star treatment that will be given to some players as opposed to others will intensify even higher than it is already.
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I disagree that athletes on 100% scholarship should get paid any revenue generated for the school from their particular sport, but they should be able to license themself at will. If they're good enough to make the NFL they will eventually get paid, if they're not good enough to make pros no one was paying to see them play in the first place. And does anyone think this will dry up backdoor booster payments that are already in play?
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No but I dont think anyone is making that argument legitimately anyways. The NCAA is a joke because they dont even pretend to really care about it unless it is a school they can afford to punish. There are enough examples out there in both football and basketball. Not to mention the other ways the NCAA makes it obvious they treat different teams when it comes to discipline, transfers...etc.
I will never like the idea of paying players...but I realize that I am most likely wrong with how things are today. I dunno maybe if I thought coaches were in the same boat I would still feel that way but coaches get paid millions of dollars and can hop job to job. Players have to sit out if they transfer and the school can play games with the release. I think even the best intentioned schools do a disservice to many of its athletes (especially in basketball and football) and bring in players that are underprivileged and under educated and who think the only chance they have is a big money contract and are not in a position to succeed when they step on campus. They start behind the 8 ball, and a lot of them dont have the skills to get out of it whether it is educational or on the field.
I dont know what the solution is...but the current NCAA model for the revenue sports is ridiculous and honestly most likely would not be allowed if it was started today. I know the schools like to pretend they are student-athletes but we all know that is bullcrap. The players are labor and it is time they were recognized as such with all the benefits (and repercussions) contained within that. I may not like it (and it will certainly kill my interest) but that doesnt make it right.
I will never like the idea of paying players...but I realize that I am most likely wrong with how things are today. I dunno maybe if I thought coaches were in the same boat I would still feel that way but coaches get paid millions of dollars and can hop job to job. Players have to sit out if they transfer and the school can play games with the release. I think even the best intentioned schools do a disservice to many of its athletes (especially in basketball and football) and bring in players that are underprivileged and under educated and who think the only chance they have is a big money contract and are not in a position to succeed when they step on campus. They start behind the 8 ball, and a lot of them dont have the skills to get out of it whether it is educational or on the field.
I dont know what the solution is...but the current NCAA model for the revenue sports is ridiculous and honestly most likely would not be allowed if it was started today. I know the schools like to pretend they are student-athletes but we all know that is bullcrap. The players are labor and it is time they were recognized as such with all the benefits (and repercussions) contained within that. I may not like it (and it will certainly kill my interest) but that doesnt make it right.
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It’s official, big postpones all fall sports
Handyman
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I gotta think one of the Southern Leagues agreed to postpone but is waiting for the backlash the Big Ten and Pac-12 are gonna get.
Off topic but I cant get on this board from my computer only my phone...I think the site it got hacked.
alfa,
Just because they're is no football doesn't mean the players have to go home.
dxmnkd316
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Nicely timed after Biden announced lol
dxmnkd316
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What in the actual fuck is going on here: https://twitter.com/DavezONAIR/statu...88978846711808
Kepler
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Oh man the reaction.
dxmnkd316
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https://m.startribune.com/gophers-c...-instead-of-the-selfish-and-greedy/572082652/
Jim Souhan is so violently right it hurts.
Jim Souhan is so violently right it hurts.
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I refuse to say that is true because that man is human garbage.
(but yeah he stumbled onto the right opinion)
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I won't lie...I hope Nebraska chooses to play against the wishes of the Big Ten just on the off chance we kick them out. I really don't like them in our league.
According to what I am reading they are the only ones making a fuss every other school has fallen in line.
According to what I am reading they are the only ones making a fuss every other school has fallen in line.
dxmnkd316
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As much as I’d miss the $5BOBC trophy, fuck these people
Kepler
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Nebraska and Oklahoma need to reunite. Nebraska doesn't belong in the B1G any more than Rutgers does.
The obvious move is kick out Nebraska and Notre Dame might finally wise up. Pedo fits. Maryland, meh, though I'd rather have Pitt. For the NYC area my dream would be Army and come to think of with with Army just replace Maryland with Navy.
West
Illinois
Iowa
Michigan
Michigan State
Minnesota
Northwestern
Wisconsin
East
Army
Indiana
Ohio State
Navy
Notre Dame
Penn State
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I'm 99% certain Nebraska's antics are all for show to feed their fans that they're doing everything they can to play and gosh darn it, it's just not their fault. But that 1% chance that it's not...god I'd love to see them fail epically by jumping back to the Big XII. It would be proof once and for all that they're just a crappier SEC school that happens to be north of the Mason Dixon line. Football has been king there for 75 years, but it'd be absolute proof that the tail is wagging the dog and that football takes precedence over everything else at the university. Because throwing away membership in the CIC and the billions in research grants that funnels through there over a football season? They'd be the farking laughingstock of academia.
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Yeah I know it is a pipedream...but it makes me happy to think about 
Honestly though it is better for my squad if they stay because they will never be a consistent winner in the Big Ten. And Scott Frost may be a good coach when he has all of Florida to recruit but Nebraska doesnt have the cache and his attitude is just awful. The days of Dr. Tom using Prop 48 and a bunch of criminals to run roughshod over the Big 8 or the Big 12 West are long gone.
Honestly though it is better for my squad if they stay because they will never be a consistent winner in the Big Ten. And Scott Frost may be a good coach when he has all of Florida to recruit but Nebraska doesnt have the cache and his attitude is just awful. The days of Dr. Tom using Prop 48 and a bunch of criminals to run roughshod over the Big 8 or the Big 12 West are long gone.
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Iowa football parents seek answers and restoration of fall football in letter to Big Ten. I get it. Football is super important. But what I don't get is the rabid stupidity:
Maybe because your 5 year old daughter and 19 year old son can wear masks and do at least a little social distancing while attending classes, neither of which are possible playing college football. And that is even allowing that in-person classes are safe, something that may not be true in lots of places. But nowhere will it be safe to play football if even one player on either side of the ball has coronavirus. Because of the methods of transmission, it would literally be safer to play against someone HIV positive than it would be to play against someone with Covid-19.
What this "loving mother" wonders about is like asking why I can shoot you with a water pistol and that's OK, but if I shoot you with my Glock-19 that is bad.
When did Americans get so mother fvcking stupid and selfish?
Frankly, I say let them play football. Give every athlete waiver to sit out a year and transfer to a smarter school if they desire with no loss of eligibility and be immediately eligible to play when that player feels it is safe to do so, and let the ones who are too stupid to know otherwise play. Isolate them entirely from the rest of the students. Let the virus run rampant through the football complex. I'll even watch them play. I'll throw 5h!t at my TV when Brian Kelly decides a fade to the corner of the endzone from the 15 when all you needed was a field goal to win is a smart call, or throwing 50 times in a monsoon is a good game plan just like I've been doing for the last 20+ years. I'll enjoy the entertainment, and if some players or coaches get sick and die, I won't give the first d am n.
Maybe because your 5 year old daughter and 19 year old son can wear masks and do at least a little social distancing while attending classes, neither of which are possible playing college football. And that is even allowing that in-person classes are safe, something that may not be true in lots of places. But nowhere will it be safe to play football if even one player on either side of the ball has coronavirus. Because of the methods of transmission, it would literally be safer to play against someone HIV positive than it would be to play against someone with Covid-19.
What this "loving mother" wonders about is like asking why I can shoot you with a water pistol and that's OK, but if I shoot you with my Glock-19 that is bad.
When did Americans get so mother fvcking stupid and selfish?
Frankly, I say let them play football. Give every athlete waiver to sit out a year and transfer to a smarter school if they desire with no loss of eligibility and be immediately eligible to play when that player feels it is safe to do so, and let the ones who are too stupid to know otherwise play. Isolate them entirely from the rest of the students. Let the virus run rampant through the football complex. I'll even watch them play. I'll throw 5h!t at my TV when Brian Kelly decides a fade to the corner of the endzone from the 15 when all you needed was a field goal to win is a smart call, or throwing 50 times in a monsoon is a good game plan just like I've been doing for the last 20+ years. I'll enjoy the entertainment, and if some players or coaches get sick and die, I won't give the first d am n.
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