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College Football 19-20: Where We Kinda Want Clemson As Champion.

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dxmnkd316 said:
And that's where my opinion has firmly ensconced itself. I think playoffs are awful**. With a few exceptions (Stanley Cup, for example). Single elimination to crown the "best" team? Nah. They're the playoff champions. The best team is whomever is evaluated so by the sum of their accomplishments. Like the Gophers being crowned AP #1 in 60. They lost the Rose Bowl but were still voted #1. Winning the McNaughton was always much more difficult than even winning the NCAA title. You had to churn through 30 games against top caliber (and some dreck) every year.

If we treated playoffs as what they really are, TV fodder, then sure, do whatever. I'm in. And maybe that's MY problem and not everyone else's.

**I guess I don't have a problem with playoffs themselves. I just hate the idea that they give you the best team. It's a RNG. Entertaining and sometimes a lot of fun. But the best team is generally a subjective
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The Gophers were voted #1 in 1960 before losing in the Rose Bowl. They almost certainly would not have been voted #1 if the poll had been taken after the Rose Bowl. They robbed Ole Miss of a national title. But...that's how they did it back then.

As to going to 12, it's a weird choice. I would have gone to 8 (Power 5 Champions, Top Group of 5 Champion, and 2 at-large). If they go to 12, I can only imagine the outcry (from me and others) when 5 SEC teams get in. But...that's how it looks like they will be doing it going forward.
 
Fighting Sioux 23 said:
Yeah, it was one of the oddities of how they voted back then. There were a few teams that benefitted from that set up...I know Minnesota wasn't the only team to lose after getting voted #1.
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Oh I'm sure. Either way, I don't believe in the "when" when it comes to ratings. Not that it's what you were suggesting.

Which is why I think a playoff is helpful to get the best teams to play each other for more data in the calcs
 
Fighting Sioux 23 said:
Ahh, Notre Dame and Minnesota fans wanting to go back to college football from 90 years ago when they could win titles. Funny stuff. : p
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Easy to say when you grift off another program. You went to UND right? Stick with that. =^p

ftr I have familial ties to LSU. And I've attended games there a few times because of it.

I was happy for my cousins when they won it all but I'll never go Hoven on the bit and supplant my suffering Fandom of The Gophers because of it. =)
 
Slap Shot said:
Easy to say when you grift off another program. You went to UND right? Stick with that. =^p

ftr I have familial ties to LSU. And I've attended games there a few times because of it.

I was happy for my cousins when they won it all but I'll never go Hoven on the bit and supplant my suffering Fandom of The Gophers because of it. =)
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Not many posts inflict this much collateral damage. :-D
 
Slap Shot said:
ftr I have familial ties to LSU. And I've attended games there a few times because of it.

I was happy for my cousins when they won it all but I'll never go Hoven on the bit and supplant my suffering Fandom of The Gophers because of it. =)
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An LSU home game would be an experience, I'd think. Tiger football is religion down there.
 
burd said:
An LSU home game would be an experience, I'd think. Tiger football is religion down there.
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One of the coolest things ever from a sporting spectacle. A game in Little Rock (vs. LSU no less) wasn't that far behind.

Some background - my father's sister married a man from Baton Rouge and established roots there. My mother's parents retired to Fayetteville, AR (which led to a long lasting friendship with Sam Walton) and often we alternated annual visits to LA and AR over Thanksgiving for many years. When the annual Boot Game (AR vs. LSU) was played the Friday after Thanksgiving (1996 - 2013 or so) we attended several of them including a UA 3OT win in Baton Rouge when LSU was then #1.

I am sure it wouldn't compare but I wish I could have been at TCF for the game vs. PSU in 2019 or vs. UW last season.
 
Slap Shot said:
One of the coolest things ever from a sporting spectacle. A game in Little Rock (vs. LSU no less) wasn't that far behind.

Some background - my father's sister married a man from Baton Rouge and established roots there. My mother's parents retired to Fayetteville, AR (which led to a long lasting friendship with Sam Walton) and often we alternated annual visits to LA and AR over Thanksgiving for many years. When the annual Boot Game (AR vs. LSU) was played the Friday after Thanksgiving (1996 - 2013 or so) we attended several of them including a UA 3OT win in Baton Rouge when LSU was then #1.

I am sure it wouldn't compare but I wish I could have been at TCF for the game vs. PSU in 2019 or vs. UW last season.
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Dam. I lived in Joplin, Mo (and met Mrs. burd there) for about 5 years 40+ years ago and became familiar with northwest Ark and northeast Okla. In Missouri they were football nuts, but nothing compared to Baton Rouge and Fayetteville. I still miss the Arkansas Ozarks.

Now that w spend some time in Nola with one of our daughters, I'm used to seeing LSU colors everywhere.
 
burd said:
Dam. I lived in Joplin, Mo (and met Mrs. burd there) for about 5 years 40+ years ago and became familiar with northwest Ark and northeast Okla. In Missouri they were football nuts, but nothing compared to Baton Rouge and Fayetteville. I still miss the Arkansas Ozarks.

Now that w spend some time in Nola with one of our daughters, I'm used to seeing LSU colors everywhere.
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When Joplin had their storm of the century (May 2011 - we were on our way to AR for a funeral) we were driving through the middle of it and it was one of the few times ever in my life I felt significant mortal risk.
 
Slap Shot said:
When Joplin had their storm of the century (May 2011 - we were on our way to AR for a funeral) we were driving through the middle of it and it was one of the few times ever in my life I felt significant mortal risk.
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A mile-wide lawn mower. One of wife's family members had his home just disappear.

I assume you were coming down from KC to Carthage just to the east of Joplin, west a bit on 44, then down to Arkansas?
 
I've actually been to Joplin. I was charmed by it, but my god it was hick.

The median age of the people I met there was 85.
 
burd said:
A mile-wide lawn mower. One of wife's family members had his home just disappear.

I assume you were coming down from KC to Carthage just to the east of Joplin, west a bit on 44, then down to Arkansas?
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I plead ignorance on Carthage, but it was KC to Joplin then to Bentonville/Rogers, Springdale and finally Fayetteville.
 
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