Re: College Footbal 2009: Anybody want to be in the Top 5?
Or did Indiana channel Minnesota earlier?
Or did Indiana channel Minnesota earlier?
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College Footbal 2009: Anybody want to be in the Top 5?
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Re: College Footbal 2009: Anybody want to be in the Top 5?
Was that for the pass Staudermire dropped where no one was within 20 yards of him?
Was that for the pass Staudermire dropped where no one was within 20 yards of him?
Re: College Footbal 2009: Anybody want to be in the Top 5?
I don't know how they can rule that an incomplete pass - it looked like he caught it and took a step before the ball was knocked out of his hands (thus the original call of it being a fumble would be correct)... and on the very next play, MN scores a TD. Good lord.
Not only that, but on the TD play, a guy got absolutely destroyed on the hit and the ball popped out of his hands right to another Gopher player who ran it in. Crazy.
I don't know how they can rule that an incomplete pass - it looked like he caught it and took a step before the ball was knocked out of his hands (thus the original call of it being a fumble would be correct)... and on the very next play, MN scores a TD. Good lord.
Not only that, but on the TD play, a guy got absolutely destroyed on the hit and the ball popped out of his hands right to another Gopher player who ran it in. Crazy.
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Well that was embarrassing.
Well that was embarrassing.
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Yeah, looked to me like the guy cought it and took a step, a football move, and then got blown up there on that play. Sparty should have had the fumble recovery there.I don't know how they can rule that an incomplete pass - it looked like he caught it and took a step before the ball was knocked out of his hands (thus the original call of it being a fumble would be correct)... and on the very next play, MN scores a TD. Good lord.
Not only that, but on the TD play, a guy got absolutely destroyed on the hit and the ball popped out of his hands right to another Gopher player who ran it in. Crazy.
Re: College Footbal 2009: Anybody want to be in the Top 5?
On the "Immaculate Reception" in the Minnesota game, didn't the ground cause the ball to pop loose? It looked like the receiver had already maintained possession, and as far as I know, the rule doesn't say "the ground can't cause a fumble, unless you're lucky enough to fumble it to a teammate". There's no way the same call is made if Sparty grabs the ball and takes it back for 6.
On the "Immaculate Reception" in the Minnesota game, didn't the ground cause the ball to pop loose? It looked like the receiver had already maintained possession, and as far as I know, the rule doesn't say "the ground can't cause a fumble, unless you're lucky enough to fumble it to a teammate". There's no way the same call is made if Sparty grabs the ball and takes it back for 6.
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I think the NCAA should go to a central set of replay officials vs. letting each conference have them...I could name 20 logistical issues with this but the current process is worse than having no replay...too many reversals that don't appear to be justified. Also, since refs are taught to call what keeps the play going, it is even more important that the replay guys use good judgement and have no risk of bias. The entire game shouldn't rest with some guy that works for a conference.
I think the NCAA should go to a central set of replay officials vs. letting each conference have them...I could name 20 logistical issues with this but the current process is worse than having no replay...too many reversals that don't appear to be justified. Also, since refs are taught to call what keeps the play going, it is even more important that the replay guys use good judgement and have no risk of bias. The entire game shouldn't rest with some guy that works for a conference.
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I agree.
From one angle it almost looked like the ball was loose before he hit the ground.....but still.......
Not a good day for B11 officials.
I agree.
From one angle it almost looked like the ball was loose before he hit the ground.....but still.......
Not a good day for B11 officials.
Re: College Footbal 2009: Anybody want to be in the Top 5?
They should go to a central pool of officials, period.
They should go to a central pool of officials, period.
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How's this scenario:
Alabama and Florida are unbeaten going into the SEC Championship.
Texas gets upset in the Big 12 Championship.
Ohio State defeats Iowa.
Boise State and TCU run the table.
The BCS decides to have an SEC rematch for the championship game, while bypassing two unbeatens from smaller conferences. Add to that either Boise or TCU finishes #4 and doesn't get an invite to any BCS game.
Of course, that will never happen...
How's this scenario:
Alabama and Florida are unbeaten going into the SEC Championship.
Texas gets upset in the Big 12 Championship.
Ohio State defeats Iowa.
Boise State and TCU run the table.
The BCS decides to have an SEC rematch for the championship game, while bypassing two unbeatens from smaller conferences. Add to that either Boise or TCU finishes #4 and doesn't get an invite to any BCS game.
Of course, that will never happen...
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Throw in an undefeated Cincy and it could be EPIC.
Throw in an undefeated Cincy and it could be EPIC.
Re: College Footbal 2009: Anybody want to be in the Top 5?
I don't think so - for Priceless's nightmare scenario, Cincy actually needs to lose, too. I just don't think the voters will overlook the undefeated champion of a BCS conference (even if it is the Big East) in favor of the SEC championship loser.
However, if I'm wrong, and they did, the Big East and ACC might secede from the BCS and start up its own bowl scheduling agreement with the WAC and MWC, since it would be laid bare that there is clearly no advantage for those two to align with the big 4 if an undefeated season can't get them into the BCS championship game.
I don't think so - for Priceless's nightmare scenario, Cincy actually needs to lose, too. I just don't think the voters will overlook the undefeated champion of a BCS conference (even if it is the Big East) in favor of the SEC championship loser.
However, if I'm wrong, and they did, the Big East and ACC might secede from the BCS and start up its own bowl scheduling agreement with the WAC and MWC, since it would be laid bare that there is clearly no advantage for those two to align with the big 4 if an undefeated season can't get them into the BCS championship game.
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One of many ridiculous calls in that game...the crew in that game is the worst officiating crew I have seen in 20 years.
One of many ridiculous calls in that game...the crew in that game is the worst officiating crew I have seen in 20 years.
Re: College Footbal 2009: Anybody want to be in the Top 5?
Didn't we go over this already?
It's not going to happen. Even if the two best teams in the country really are Alabama and Florida.
The coaches will "bail out" the BCS and vote down the SEC loser as necessary to ensure the BCS doesn't self-destruct. Unfortunately.
Didn't we go over this already?
It's not going to happen. Even if the two best teams in the country really are Alabama and Florida.
The coaches will "bail out" the BCS and vote down the SEC loser as necessary to ensure the BCS doesn't self-destruct. Unfortunately.Re: College Footbal 2009: Anybody want to be in the Top 5?
More woot woot for my Vandals- impressive come back last night- down by 13 late, and winning it in the last min with a touchdown.
Looks like we are going to get a Humanitarian Bowl bid. And since we'll be in Idaho this Christmas... hmmmm. This would be Idaho's second bowl. I know the WAC is generally not that good- I'm sure Idaho will get killed like they did last week against Nevada (how do you get killed when you score 45? let them score 70....). But it's nice to see the Pallouse have a team to root for on the Idaho side of the border, since WSU is pretty bad.
I was going to complain about the 4th down call for UM v Illinois, since his elbow wasn't down- I just didn't see it hit anything but a leg- but thanks to the great D, that whole set of plays were moot. UM has players who are BOTH small and slow..... yay. There was a fumble in the Idaho game where the player was down on his back before the ball came loose- and it was still a fumble...
More woot woot for my Vandals- impressive come back last night- down by 13 late, and winning it in the last min with a touchdown.
Looks like we are going to get a Humanitarian Bowl bid. And since we'll be in Idaho this Christmas... hmmmm. This would be Idaho's second bowl. I know the WAC is generally not that good- I'm sure Idaho will get killed like they did last week against Nevada (how do you get killed when you score 45? let them score 70....). But it's nice to see the Pallouse have a team to root for on the Idaho side of the border, since WSU is pretty bad.
I was going to complain about the 4th down call for UM v Illinois, since his elbow wasn't down- I just didn't see it hit anything but a leg- but thanks to the great D, that whole set of plays were moot. UM has players who are BOTH small and slow..... yay. There was a fumble in the Idaho game where the player was down on his back before the ball came loose- and it was still a fumble...
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Most complaints about officiating are overblown. But these guys had an awful game. Not only did they over-officiate, they were terribly inconsistent.
The one silver lining is that the ref-created breaks seemed to balance out in the end. The Gophs made a few more plays than Sparty, and the final score reflected that.
Gotta agree.
Most complaints about officiating are overblown. But these guys had an awful game. Not only did they over-officiate, they were terribly inconsistent.
The one silver lining is that the ref-created breaks seemed to balance out in the end. The Gophs made a few more plays than Sparty, and the final score reflected that.
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How come everyone keeps forgetting about Cincinnati, they're either referred to as from a small non-BCS conference or totally left out of the picture enitrely.
Wow, just Wow.
How come everyone keeps forgetting about Cincinnati, they're either referred to as from a small non-BCS conference or totally left out of the picture enitrely.
Wow, just Wow.
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Because they are from Ohio. Ohio does not speak Big East to a lot of us. So it's VERY, VERY easy to forget that they are Big East. Don't bring up WVU- they've been good long enough for everyone to know they are Big East. UC is new to the national picture, so it's easy to not remember where they play. I bet most people think they are C-USA if they don't remember Big East.
Because they are from Ohio. Ohio does not speak Big East to a lot of us. So it's VERY, VERY easy to forget that they are Big East. Don't bring up WVU- they've been good long enough for everyone to know they are Big East. UC is new to the national picture, so it's easy to not remember where they play. I bet most people think they are C-USA if they don't remember Big East.
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