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College Footbal 2009: Anybody want to be in the Top 5?

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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,568415,00.html

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I haven't been following the program as closely since i graduated... but this is something that while I'm not surprised could happen, it is something that shouldn't happen. There's too many people out there who are out looking for trouble as opposed to trying to get through school and UConn has quite a few of those. I could speculate further but I won't. This is no comment on the football team and if anything I'm commenting on those not belonging to the football team. Bottom line is some twerp went to a campus event with a knife on his person. Period.

This is no commentary on the player or whatever went down. Bottom line is this took place in the center of campus where I've been FREQUENTLY at 12:30AM. This wasn't some kid's barely-off-campus party. Things that occur are the student union are often alcohol-aversion events but they do have concerts as well. I have no idea what function was going on and for all I know they had a fair amount of outsiders.

This shouldn't happen in the middle of campus at UConn. I'm not going to blame the school because I don't know what they could have honestly done, and I say that not being there. If you know me then I have enough to complain about UConn. I believe that there's enough people who value themselves so little, despite being in college, to pull off stupid stunts like this.
 
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pirate said:
(here comes the big if) IF they kick the FG from the 27 and don't miss the PAT then a FG ties the game...I thought the no FG was a huge mistake.
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Charlie put the no-FG call on Polian in the press conference. He said that Polian told him he needed three more yards in that direction.

I think the extra time may have run off the clock because Jimmy didn't realize the clock was going to start again after it stopped for Parris's injury. I didn't realize it myself until I looked up after the play was over and said "Oh, ****, only 9 seconds?"

I agree with TBA's surprise that ND didn't try running it with the TOs in hand. I think we had two left when we got down there, so we could have tried one run and still would have had one in hand in the event of a sack.
 
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You had one left by the time you got closest to the end zone. I expect a run from 4 yards out. If you get in, tie game (or you go for 2 and the win.)

If you don't, maybe you pick up 3 yards and it's not about time anymore with the timeout: you can pass OR you can QB Sneak for the score: either way it's not about time anymore so who cares?

Weis really hasn't impressed me.
 
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Hammer said:
End of 1

Michigan 28
Delaware St 0

And the game isn't even that close.

Snicker. Giggle. Laugh. Please. This is an absolute abortion of a football game.
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Personally, I would like to put Delaware State up against Tiffin in the Our Lady of Sodomy bowl trophy. ;)

Dirty said:
Sioux Falls 14
UND 3
2nd Quarter

Sioux Falls is an NAIA team. Absolutely embarrassing.
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????????:confused: ???????????? Should Texas Tech brought Sioux Falls in to play this year?? :eek:
 
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bigmrg74 said:
Personally, I would like to put Delaware State up against Tiffin in the Our Lady of Sodomy bowl trophy. ;)

????????:confused: ???????????? Should Texas Tech brought Sioux Falls in to play this year?? :eek:
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Probably. Sioux Falls won 28-13. One of the worst losses in the history of UND football.
 
Re: College Footbal 2009: Anybody want to be in the Top 5?

Initial BCS rankings are out

Florida has the top spot, I don't really know how. Bama second, Texas third, Boise State, Cinci round out the top 5.

Iowa, USC, TCU, LSU and Miami round out the top 10.
 
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amherstblackbear said:
Florida still has #1 in 2 of the 3 human polls.
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Sorry, corrected my post.

But yeah, I understand why FL is still ranked #1, because the polls schlep them.

SEC really has it good. Keeps their top teams ranked high because their terrible refs make sure FL wins that game.
 
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Sagarin doesn't give the BCS his "favorite" ratings because there's "too much" emphasis on margin of victory for the sensitive NCAA types, IIRC.

edit: yup.
 
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amherstblackbear said:
Sagarin doesn't give the BCS his "favorite" ratings because there's "too much" emphasis on margin of victory for the sensitive NCAA types, IIRC.

edit: yup.
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it isn't that its "too much" emphasis but rather "any" emphasis.
 
Re: College Footbal 2009: Anybody want to be in the Top 5?

True. But either way, it rests on a flawed premise.

Just because margin of victory is difficult to interpret does not mean that it should not be modeled. There's no reason to throw away information.

The failure, IMO, rests with the NCAA. It wouldn't be hard to explain to coaches that there's no added value in destroying an overmatched team, or that beyond a certain margin, returns are vanishingly small. That it's really only consequential when playing relatively stronger teams (in which case, there's no cause for crying). Coaches play dumb about the BCS, but they're not stupid. They'd "get it."

Anyway.... [/digression]
 
Re: College Footbal 2009: Anybody want to be in the Top 5?

amherstblackbear said:
True. But either way, it rests on a flawed premise.

Just because margin of victory is difficult to interpret does not mean that it should not be modeled. There's no reason to throw away information.

The failure, IMO, rests with the NCAA. It wouldn't be hard to explain to coaches that there's no added value in destroying an overmatched team, or that beyond a certain margin, returns are vanishingly small. That it's really only consequential when playing relatively stronger teams (in which case, there's no cause for crying). Coaches play dumb about the BCS, but they're not stupid. They'd "get it."

Anyway.... [/digression]
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The funny thing is we added all these computers and usually the polls do just about as good a job.
 
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amherstblackbear said:
The failure, IMO, rests with the NCAA. It wouldn't be hard to explain to coaches that there's no added value in destroying an overmatched team, or that beyond a certain margin, returns are vanishingly small...
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Note that "The NCAA" has nothing to do with the BCS system. The BCS is administered by the 6 BCS conference commissioners plus the Notre Dame Athletic Director.

Agreed, though, on the inclusion of the margin of victory. There are some excellent mathematical ratings out there that take into account margin of victory. I can name 5 off the top of my head--Dolphin, SW-Tech, Rothman, plus Massey's and Sagarin's Predictor ratings. They do a better job of rating teams than the ratings that are part of the BCS, because they don't throw away data.

They certainly make more sense than Billingsley's silly system, which is no more than a mathematical attempt to simulate the behavior of AP pollsters:
http://bcsguru.blogspot.com/2009/10/interview-with-richard-billingsley.html
 
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