Colgate 2010-11

[TheValleyRaider]

Re: Colgate 2010-11

Noticed we're tied for fifth in the country goals against(2). Real season starts tonight, how nice would a sweep be ?? Is it possible, great success at Cheel and none at Appleton in the last 6-7 yrs.

That's what bothers me about this weekend. We just have no success in that place. Stark contrast to Cheel where we've actually only lost once in the last 7 years, that same stretch we've won in Appleton.....once

Heck, we haven't beaten SLU at all since '07-08. I'd really like to get those guys this weekend...

 

[Maine-iac]

Re: Colgate 2010-11

I just don't want people to get down on things on here should the team not take both games that's all.

Raider fans and Alum don't get down .... we may want for a few things; but this is the year to sweep the NC. Maybe I'll temper that a bit to a 3 point trip. The boys looked good on the Cape. I haven't seen anyone else in the league play yet; but nobody's numbers are off-the-charts. Fans are supposed to be FANATICAL. Let's GO GATE !!!

 

[Rainman]

Re: Colgate 2010-11

Pre-game thoughts:

-Cheel Arena is a rink where we've only lost once in the past 7 years, and that was a 1-0 decision in the 2008 ECAC Quarterfinals. Heck, our last regular season loss in Potsdam was back in 2003! We then won the series in dramatic fashion. Then again, Clarkson is a better team than they were last year. This game could go either way.

-Appleton Arena, on the contrary, is a house of horrors for us. We've only won once there in that same timespan (2008). However, SLU will be without forward Aaron Bogosian and (so far, best) defenseman Peter Child. At least 5 of their 6 D-men are either freshmen or sophomores and they're playing a freshman goalie. But they've played 4 overtime games so far. This game could also go either way.

We earned splits in 08-09 and 09-10 on this trip (W at Clarkson, L at SLU). I'll be happy with at least a split this weekend. Let's go 'Gate!

 

[TchrBill]

Re: Colgate 2010-11

Boy did we let this one slip away at Cheel. Every game needs to be a playoff game, beginning with game 1. I wasn't sold on Evin at all last year and I'm not sold on Evin this year. Four goals should have won us the game. That was an abyssmal 3rd period with no discipline. Penalties are a part of the game and we screwed ourselves whether we deserved them or not, so I won't make any excuses.

A point is a point, and it's on the road in the North Country, nonetheless. Time to break that hex at Appleton and go in there with a vengeance.

 

[hockeyenthusiast]

Re: Colgate 2010-11

Boy did we let this one slip away at Cheel. Every game needs to be a playoff game, beginning with game 1. I wasn't sold on Evin at all last year and I'm not sold on Evin this year. Four goals should have won us the game. That was an abyssmal 3rd period with no discipline. Penalties are a part of the game and we screwed ourselves whether we deserved them or not, so I won't make any excuses.

A point is a point, and it's on the road in the North Country, nonetheless. Time to break that hex at Appleton and go in there with a vengeance.

Not to be rude, Bill, but I've noticed you only surface when we lose or get a bad result. Evin has been playing well. Listening to McGraw, it seems like he played well and has been playing better than last year. Take the first period for example. Any goalie could have folded after letting in a goal 18 seconds in on the first shot. What does he do instead? Goes on to stop 16 straight which enables us to take a 2-1 lead. I do agree however, that its time to beat St lawrence again.

 

[Rainman]

Re: Colgate 2010-11

I'm disappointed that we:

-allowed 3 power-play goals to a team that hadn't scored a PPG all season
-went a dismal 3 for 6 on the penalty kill
-blew a 4-2 lead in the 3rd period

But at the same time, we:

-scored 4 goals including a PPG
-got primary (Smith, Wagner) and secondary (Rivellini, Larkin) scoring
-didn't lose

At least we earned a point on the road in the North Country. It seems like we always skate to a draw in that building. Just put last night behind us and focus on getting a win against the Saints.

 

[sshablak]

Re: Colgate 2010-11

Very disappointing not holding a third period lead again. Yes, Gate radio said Evin played very well but two goals on five shots in the third.

Clarkson's fourth goal was emphatically waived off but replay changed the call !! The offense is working(40 shots) but we've got to finish the third periods. Glass half full ??

Need to break the Appleton jinx tonight...maybe SLU will still be celebrating their shutout over Cornell .

 

[TheValleyRaider]

Re: Colgate 2010-11

As befitting a tie, I'm torn on their performance last night

Evin made some great saves, yes, and maybe those late goals weren't all his fault, but it is tough to blow the lead like that (again, though, not entirely on him)

The PK ended poorly, but they did sound aggressive early, and drew two Clarkson penalties

It comes down to consistency, and right now they don't have it. Can't afford to fall behind early like last night to the Saints...

 

[ColSkate65]

Re: Colgate 2010-11

Why do I feel such deja vu?

 

[TchrBill]

Re: Colgate 2010-11

Not to be rude, Bill, but I've noticed you only surface when we lose or get a bad result.

I am not offended by anyone on this board, but I respectfully disagree about my comments and your judgment of them. Remarks that are more critical always receive more attention and scorn and therefore receive the most scrutiny. Not impressed with our start to the season but it's all uphill from here.

Tonight's game is just about over. We played catch-up the entire game from the penalty box. Still not sold on Evin. Can't think of anything very positive to say about this game other than I'm glad we can check our trip to the NC off the list.

4-1 ENG
I don't think the NC teams are unbeatable. Our perception of that trip has got to change because the results at SLU are becoming too predictable.

 

[Rainman]

Re: Colgate 2010-11

I'm not going to complain about tonight's game. But I will say this: Appleton Arena is cursed ... for Colgate.

From the radio broadcast, it didn't sound like we were playing poorly, but we just didn't bury our chances, and SLU did. Giving up a PPG on our 1st penalty was a bad sign. Going 0 for 5 on the PP was also ominous. It sounded like we were just passing the puck around in the offensive zone waiting for a perfect one-timer instead of peppering the goaltender with shots.

I'm really, really hoping this November isn't going to be like the ones we had in 2006-07 or 2007-08. Those two years, we only salvaged 1 point in our 1st two league games then got swept in our next two. We just need to put this weekend behind us and focus on our next game. Four in a row at home is a good sign; I'm confident we can win them.

 

[TheGreenCoat]

Re: Colgate 2010-11

Another disappointing start to the season...BTW, can't think of the last time we won a game at Appleton...keep your posts coming Torcher Bill; there's nothing wrong with a little dose of both objectivity and reality. I know preseason predictions don't carry much weight in the ECAC, but both Clarkson and SLU were picked to finish well into the second division. The PP continues to underachieve and the goaltending appears, again, to be mediocre.

 

[ColSkate65]

Re: Colgate 2010-11

Hate to say it, but "same old same old." When was the last time we got off to a really good start on the season? That said, I see this team maturing much as past teams have, and hopefully they will *be there* in March. Game experience is the only way to grow up.

 

[TimU]

Re: Colgate 2010-11

From the radio broadcast, it didn't sound like we were playing poorly, but we just didn't bury our chances, and SLU did.

I agree.

It sounded like we were just passing the puck around in the offensive zone waiting for a perfect one-timer instead of peppering the goaltender with shots.

I thought Colgate moved the puck really well on the PP. I also thought SLU did a pretty good job of taking away the down-low pass.

I know preseason predictions don't carry much weight in the ECAC, but both Clarkson and SLU were picked to finish well into the second division. The PP continues to underachieve and the goaltending appears, again, to be mediocre.

You're right, and Clarkson and SLU still might finish pretty low. But so far SLU's freshmen have looked great, and regardless of how they do overall, they're going to win some games with their talent. Maybe this was one of them.

Evin did stop several quality chances by K. Flanagan and Carey - both of whom are sharpshooters - that could have made the score even worse for you guys. I will say that based on the early returns, I wouldn't trade Weninger for Evin.

 

['Gate Radio]

Re: Colgate 2010-11

Hate to say it, but "same old same old." When was the last time we got off to a really good start on the season? That said, I see this team maturing much as past teams have, and hopefully they will *be there* in March. Game experience is the only way to grow up.

The team started off 3-0-1 in the league last year with wins over Harvard, Dartmouth and Brown and a tie against Yale. The game against Harvard was a gritty, come-from-behind win where the Crimson gave up a 4-1 second period lead. They never seemed to really recover from that despite their overall talent level. The tie with Yale was strong too because it was on the road.

Starting at SLU and Clarkson isn't easy. The next four games will tell us a lot about this year's team. Heck, the first 10 minutes of the Princeton game will do so as well.

 

[Rjm7272]

Re: Colgate 2010-11

Well, I made the trip up north this past weekend...and I'm not sure I liked everything I saw. There were some moments that were good. The offense looked good (for the most part) against Clarkson. Four goals should certainly be enough to win any game. However, the Penalty Kill needs a lot of work. Every time we got called for a penalty this weekend, my friend and I turned to each other and said, "Here we go again..." Even when they weren't giving up a PP goal, they still didn't look all that great for the most part.

Also, I'm still not sold on Evin as well. Yes, he did make some nice saves this weekend, but overall, he just doesn't impress me a whole lot. I'm hoping that opinion will change, seeing as the coaches seem to be saying he's our man since no other goalie has gotten any "official" ice time yet.

The thing that really got me this weekend though was the ENG that SLU scored. Yes, Evin was out of the net, and SLU got the puck near center ice, and I thought it was done then. But no, instead we try to make some play, but it almost seemed like they gave up on it, leaving the puck basically in front of the net for SLU to just dump in easily. Yes, there was no goalie, but the defense could have, and should have, done a much better job trying to keep the puck out of the net.

Oh well, on to next weekend, Princeton/Quinnipiac, and Silver Puck.

 

[Gaterrooter]

Re: Colgate 2010-11

My biggest issue with the weekend was the same thing that ticked me off last year, stupid immature penalties by the leadership of the team. Mac last year would take the frequent retaliatory slash to the guys legs who just hit him.

Well this weekend the same type of play cost us the win at Clarkson and started the downhill slide at St Lawrence. The slash at the goalies glove on Friday night put us a man down and resulted in a goal for Clarkson to get it back to 4-3.

Saturday night the 1st St Lawrence goal was a result of a selfish penalty by a senior who didn't like the fact that he'd been hit and didn't get a call. So he chased down the player and hit him well after the fact for the interference call which resulted in St Lawrence scoring and having the momentum from then on. Coach V has to do something about this quick.

As far as the goal tending goes, Friday night I think we could have stolen an extra point with a couple of saves. Saturday he was hung out to dry, 2 of the goals the shooter was standing 3 feet in front of the net all alone without a Colgate player within 6 feet of them. Not his fault take a look below.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lizsewyyhhw&feature=player_embedded

 

[sshablak]

Re: Colgate 2010-11

Thank you for that clip. Macpherson left the center and left the front uncovered. Whoever #8 is should have covered for him !

 

[Avalanche33]

Re: Colgate 2010-11

Gaterroter, is on the money when it comes to the penalty's
We seem to always see our experience leadership, take the bad calls. If a frosh or soph pulls that type of stunt they dont dress the next game.

Our top lines arent working together, It show's their frustrated out there. They seem to be trying to out Stat/Point the guy next to them, instead of playing like a unit.

Our PP is the opositions best PK. Our first unit once spent the whole 2 mins, inside the offensive blue line passing the puck & never got a shot on net, or made a line change.

My opinion (aint worth anything)

Evin is the least of our problems. We need to shake up the lines & find guy's that will gel together.

It's still early, but this week end is crucial.

We dont get to see the face-off stats anymore. It cant be very positive, we seem to be loosing all the ones we need to win to have an advantage on the PP

 

[Rainman]

Re: Colgate 2010-11

My biggest issue with the weekend was the same thing that ticked me off last year, stupid immature penalties by the leadership of the team. Mac last year would take the frequent retaliatory slash to the guys legs who just hit him.

I agree with you Gaterrooter. Day leads the team in penalty minutes so far. He's averaging a penalty per game. Fortunately we only average 5-6 per game. Our trips to the sin bin cost us a point on Friday night taking untimely penalties in the 3rd leading to two Clarkson PP goals.

As far as the goal tending goes, Friday night I think we could have stolen an extra point with a couple of saves. Saturday he was hung out to dry, 2 of the goals the shooter was standing 3 feet in front of the net all alone without a Colgate player within 6 feet of them. Not his fault take a look below.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lizsewyyhhw&feature=player_embedded

Thanks for the video link. Blown defensive coverage on this goal (and the 3rd SLU goal -- there's video of that on the ECAC website) resulted in Evin being hung out to dry. He had little to no chance to make a timely stop. We handed the Saints 2 opportunities to score on a silver platter, and they cashed in on them.