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Colgate 2010-11

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GreenCoat, was your post before or after tonight's loss to RPI?!

I am speechless. Don't want to beat a lame horse while it's down, but I want someone's head on a platter. I'm stunned, embarrassed, depressed, confused, worried, desperate and inconsolable...but mostly sympathetic toward my beloved Red Raiders and anyone associated with the athletic program in general. Just so, so sorry for the demise of Colgate Athletics on many levels.

Fought the good fight but tonight's OT loss really, really hurt.
Hang tough, Colgate.
 
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After watching that game, I felt like the girl of my dreams just kicked me in the nuts.

Not only was it a penalty-shot goal-against, it was also a shorthanded goal-against, during a 5-minute major penalty. We have found another way to lose and (IMO) we have hit rock bottom. Unless we can muster out at least ONE win against Cornell I'm throwing in the towel on this season. And as I'm typing this I receive a text message on my phone reminding me that we lost in OT on a penalty shot.

There better be some serious inquiries about the program. If I were the President or the AD at Colgate I'd probably make like the owner of the Dallas Cowboys did back in November and do something drastic.

Time to watch some playoff football. Go Pats...
 
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Rainman said:
There better be some serious inquiries about the program. If I were the President or the AD at Colgate I'd probably make like the owner of the Dallas Cowboys did back in November and do something drastic.
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I won't hold my breath. Your options are limited when it comes to making drastic changes in a college athletics program. You can't get rid of the players, and I'd be shocked if more than 1 assistant goes. Really, I'd be shocked if either assistant goes, so that seems like a dead-end to me. Otherwise, the only 2 names left would be Vaughan and Roach. I've got my preference, but I don't see serious changes being made there. Certainly not Vaughan, I would think...
 
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My opinion is that Dave Roach is a disaster, a tool for the administration and happy to have a job after being fired at Brown. The continuing deterioration of the university's entire sports program started with the departure of Mark Murphy (who had the pedigree and political power to keep the "let's go to DIII crowd" at bay). Fred Dunlap (and even Hal Lahar) were well respected ADs. This bull**** is not just about men's ice hockey folks...you may remember Dr. Frank Ryan's tenure as AD at Yale. Now I love Frank Ryan since I've been a Browns fan since birth. He was a horrible AD at Yale - just talk to a few of my Yale friends and look at the history. I pray that Jeffrey Herbst is not another Rebecca Chopp - who gave lip service to athletics at the 'Gate, then leaves for, guess where, DIII Haverford...
 
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TheValleyRaider said:
I won't hold my breath. Your options are limited when it comes to making drastic changes in a college athletics program. You can't get rid of the players, and I'd be shocked if more than 1 assistant goes. Really, I'd be shocked if either assistant goes, so that seems like a dead-end to me. Otherwise, the only 2 names left would be Vaughan and Roach. I've got my preference, but I don't see serious changes being made there. Certainly not Vaughan, I would think...
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I was probably over-reacting in my previous post. But yeah, I'd rather get rid of Roach over Vaughan. The players are not the problem...


Also, GreenCoat, Rebecca Chopp left for Swarthmore, not Haverford. But yeah, you got the right idea...
 
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Good point Rainman...do you think we could beat Swarthmore in men's hoops this year??? I'm more than a little serious...
 
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Some players held accountable others not. IMO some of the studs need to watch a game or two from the stands. Too many just mailing it in and going through the motions. Power play hasn't worked but they keep trying the same thing over and over. For those of you that know the finer points of the game, have you seen any adjustments in between periods this year. Same things are tried- nothing gets adjusted. Certain players over played when they aren't getting it done. I can understand trying to get your top guys into the game flow, but when it isn't happening give up on them and try to find someone that can spark things. I think the top guys are frustrated because they aren't getting it done and the bottom guys have given up because they don't get a lot of playing time and opportunity to show what they can do. The psyche of this team has been destroyed from mismanagement by the coaching staff. Just my opinion
 
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Last night's disaster is now on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vL08ZdGV6g

The fact that we switched directions at the start of OT didn't help either -- the RPI fans in attendance were right behind Mihalik and were probably heckling him to death and wrecking his psyche all the way up to the actual shot. Had we kept our usual "shoot at the east (end zone seating) goal" for OT maybe something different would have happened...
 
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Prior ADs at the 'Gate all had substantial ties to the school. Hal Lahar coached at Colgate, went to the Univ of Houston and returned to the 'Gate. I can't think of two other people who bleed maroon as much as Fred Dunlap and Mark Murphy. Even DV, who took one for the team and acted as interim AD for one year, obviously has a 'Gate background. It is not a coincidence that the swimming program has actually been competitive under Roach because that's where he made his bones at Brown (women's swimming). The bottom line here is that, and again this is not a knock against the kids, we now have athletes on both men's hoops and hockey who are really high-caliber DIII student-athletes. I'm delighted Colgate has a 100% graduation rate among student-athletes. But frankly, I'd settle for 95% and programs that aren't currently in the toilet. We appear to be in a movie called "Ed Sweeney Redux", named after the former Dickinson College head football coach who spent three years at Colgate compiling a 6-26-1 record (0-11 his final year). What did Mark Murphy do upon becoming AD? Making a gutsy hire - Dick Biddle - after only three lousy seasons. I'm not saying fire everybody, but coaches/assistant coaches should be held to SOME kind of competitive standard. Coaching (and AD) positions shouldn't be lifetime appointments.
 
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I think you're grasping at straws Rainman, but I had a strategy of my own. When RPI nearly had its first breakaway in OT, I was screaming for Vaughan to call a T/O. As embarrassing or helpful as it may have been, Vaughan should have stopped the game, reassembled his troops, settled the players' nerves, and put some pride back on the ice.

There is also something else that is obvious as we reflect on what might have been. We had our season of 19 OT games that could have gone either way and the same is true this season (though in my opinion we're not playing as well) with our one-goal losses. We've held some ranked teams in check and that's more than many league opponenets - and OOC opponents - can say. We surpassed preseason expectations and finished in the top 4 last year, and this year is a reversal of fortune; a rebuilding year, to say the least. There's nowhere to go but up. We will easily be overlooked come playoff time but that's to our advantage. We will have a different sense of urgency with a season of adrenaline in our systems and absolutely nothing to lose.

Still wish we were getting a new rink.
Onward and Upward!
Go Colgate
 
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Two years ago we did go 6-6-7 in those overtime games and given the fact that we were a sub-.500 hockey team (now the norm) a .500 OT record is actually quite good. This year is different. I'll beat another dead horse: the kids never quit and that, in large measure, is why the games are always close. Sure, we could be 6-15-1 instead of 3-18-1, but in some sense this misses the point. We've been in a gentle spiral down for 4+ years now (notwithstanding last year where we sneaked into fourth but had an overall record at .500) and can you really tell me that our recruiting approach and incoming class next year is going to tangibly turn things around? I hope you're right...this is killing me...
 
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Rainman said:
Last night's disaster is now on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vL08ZdGV6g

The fact that we switched directions at the start of OT didn't help either -- the RPI fans in attendance were right behind Mihalik and were probably heckling him to death and wrecking his psyche all the way up to the actual shot. Had we kept our usual "shoot at the east (end zone seating) goal" for OT maybe something different would have happened...
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Just watched the video......all I can say is what a horrible way for any game to end. For as much of a sniper as Polachek is.... that was one weak goal and shot. Minimal moves........goalie opens the barn door (5 hole)......Polacek puts an average shot from quite far out for a penalty shot, on net and it goes through the goalies legs. I had to watch the video a couple of times to believe it was that easy a shot. Looks like the goalie way overcommitted and way too early.
 
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critsports said:
Just watched the video......all I can say is what a horrible way for any game to end. For as much of a sniper as Polachek is.... that was one weak goal and shot. Minimal moves........goalie opens the barn door (5 hole)......Polacek puts an average shot from quite far out for a penalty shot, on net and it goes through the goalies legs. I had to watch the video a couple of times to believe it was that easy a shot. Looks like the goalie way overcommitted and way too early.
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Thought that was an experienced snipper versus a rookie goalie. Not an over commit by the goalie, but simply caught him off guard with an early shot straight on. Looked like he started to prepare for a move and got a shot instead (note only one leg was dropping like he was preparing to push off for a move).

At any rate it was a tough way to loose and begs the question how did RPI constantly get forwards behind our D. That is what ultimately led to the penalty shot.
 
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FlagDUDE08 said:
Polacek was on a clean breakaway, and was hooked. RPI was given the option of a minor penalty or a penalty shot awarded to the player on the breakaway.
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I was a ref in the past (albeit at MUCH lower levels), and I have no recollection of options being available for penalty shots. Is this a newer rule, an NCAA adaptation, or me just being in my dotage?
 
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The breakaway in overtime was the result of an errant pass back to the blue line on the power play. Chase Polacek just sped past the Colgate defender that was going back to get the puck. Polacek was easily the fastest player on the ice all night.
 
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Tchr Bill, DV had already used his time out with about 9 mins left to switch lines after a Colgate icing.
 
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TuteScrooge said:
I was a ref in the past (albeit at MUCH lower levels), and I have no recollection of options being available for penalty shots. Is this a newer rule, an NCAA adaptation, or me just being in my dotage?
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In college the coach has a decision to take the penalty shot or a PP. Been that way for a few years now.
 
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