Colgate 2009-2010

[Magoo]

Re: Colgate 2009-2010

Well said, ValleyRaider.

"Ye reap what ye sow" - Confucius

"Be Care What You Wish For" - Scotty Bowman(

Here's one for ya, Colskate:

"I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it. " - Voltaire

 

[Oldtimer]

Re: Colgate 2009-2010

First time this year I felt we were clearly outtalented. Yale is fast and their passing is crisp. Noticed all night how we would hold the puck too long time after time in the offensive zone and get stripped or take a shot from near the blue line and they would pass, pass, pass, buzz, buzz, buzz...shoot.. score. A much better team tonight. I don't really feel Evin played poorly he was just a sitting duck most of the time. Hope they kick the Big Red's butt tomorrow night as they are much more fun to watch. These guys are the most interesting ECAC team I've seen and have a chance to win some games in the tournament if they get there..

 

[Rainman]

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Let's see ... if we take back 1 of Yale's PP goals AND take back that goal with 1 second left in the 1st AND had scored on the 1:32 5x3, it would have been a 4-4 game late in the 3rd. Disappointing. Yale's got SPEED. Speed kills. I really hope they knock off Cornell tomorrow night.

Meanwhile, Quinnipiac wins again (back-to-back shutouts for the Bobcats, AND on the road at SLU), plus Clarkson finally wins a game. AND Dartmouth blew a 4-0 lead vs. Union at home with Union taking a page out of Yale's book. Who'da thunk this would all happen tonight? This league is still unpredictable, though our game was

Just rest up boys and concentrate on Brown tomorrow night. Tomorrow is certainly a winnable game, though we DO need to play a full 60 minutes.

 

[TheGreenCoat]

Re: Colgate 2009-2010

Well said, Valley Raider...and I sincerely doubt that players and coaches from other teams actually read our posts; they've got better things to do with their lives. Don't confuse being a "naysayer" with someone who happens to try and be objective (and it's not a real intellectual reach to be able to separate being a fan and being objective). Look at tonight's performance; it's exactly what Bill and Magoo (and yours truly) have been saying all year (and for the last 3 3/4 years). Totally undisciplined defensively, backing off in the defensive zone, giving up goals in the last minute of both the first and second periods, an embarrassingly bad 5-3 and pathetic 5-4s. Evin had ZERO chances on perhaps 5 of the 6 goals. From Yale's perspective this amounted to a JV game prior to the main event tomorrow. The crowd looked puny, there is scant enthusiasm from those who do attend and, frankly, watching tonight's performance, I don't blame them. I suspect that if you asked Coach V he'd give you pretty much the same review. The final point is: where's the improvement? I don't know if it's the coaching or the kids or what, but BECAUSE I AM A DYE HARD SUPPORTER of this program I'm very disappointed, not because they didn't win, but because they looked **** bad losing and, even with middling talent they can do better.

 

[Magoo]

Re: Colgate 2009-2010

So much for Yale looking ahead to Cornell...

We just have to chalk this one up to losing to a much better team. Speed, skill, special teams, depth, you name it - Yale is just at a much higher level than we are. I can't be too upset about losing to them. At least it shows that while we've improved from the last couple of years, we still have a way to go before we can compete with the big boys in our league.

Their 3rd goal with 1 second left in the 1st was a killer, as it looked like Brisebois' goal had given us life and we would have been in good shape only down 2-1 after 1. Still - if we get one on the 5x3 power play early in the 2nd then maybe it's a different game? Who knows. The lack of production on the power play has just killed us these past 2-3 years.

I hope Don comes back with Evin tomorrow night. Let's see him bounce back after a tough game. He should have stopped Yale's 2nd goal IMO and on their 3rd goal it looked like he went down a little early. But the other goals were a result of great skill on the part of Yale. Yale-Cornell should be a great game tomorrow night.

Forget about the bye - we're not gonna get one. Let's get a home series in the 1st round, win that in 2 games, and hope our goaltender can steal a series on the road.

 

[TheGreenCoat]

Re: Colgate 2009-2010

BTW, unless Scrivens stands on his head Yale should beat Cornell tomorrow. If they receive even average goaltending, they could make some noise in the NCAAs (assuming they get there). Allain has done a great job (kudos even to Tim Taylor since Yale's seniors are his recruits) in understanding how hockey is played today and what players will thrive under the "new"game of the past several years. Colgate is starting to adapt, but was a little late to the party. Yale's fun to watch, they have skill and speed, but I don't think you can play them by "giving in" to their speed and giving up the neutral zone. RPI beat them at the Whale by being physical, but also by aggressively defending the neutral zone. I think Yale only had 22 shots in that game. Tonight we "backed up" so much out of respect for their speed that there was ZERO pressure on the penalty kill and no real pressure to force them to the outside. Finally, the freshmen Miller who played tonight for the Elis was last year's player-of-the-year in the USHL, a league that Allain uses as his main pipeline. I think he's already 21 years of age...

 

[TchrBill]

Re: Colgate 2009-2010

Glad we found some offense in the third and put three past Yale - prefer losing 6-3 than 5-1. So many "what ifs" in this game. Still frustrated that we can't open or close a period with solid, disciplined play, and were outshot again in the 3rd (despite a nice a pair of very hard-fought goals). Lots of fist brawls from the sounds of things and I feared game DQs which puts the entire team at risk when we're still in the thick of things. Not smart. All that time in the sin bin...just can't expect to compete against any ranked team if you're down a man for so long.

My focus as of late has been 2 points on the road AND at home. It's not ideal or nice to hear or that I prefer mediocrity, but I think that's all we've shown we're capable of, which is still respectable. We need to salvage 2 points against the Bears, where I am more optimistic as our results against teams below us is a bit more consistent.

RPI in 4th...seems the Engineers have worked hard to change their fate from last year while our climb is painstakingly slow. Having won in Troy, our last game at home against them should be a doozy.

As for Yale topping Cornell at Lynah, I'll agree that if any team can do it, it's the Bulldogs (or the Dutchmen). However, the Big Red's infamous, stingy defense means that just one goal can lead them to victory as they have proven time and time again.

Go 'Gate
Beat Brown

 

[yaledoc]

Re: Colgate 2009-2010

BTW, unless Scrivens stands on his head Yale should beat Cornell tomorrow. If they receive even average goaltending, they could make some noise in the NCAAs (assuming they get there). Allain has done a great job (kudos even to Tim Taylor since Yale's seniors are his recruits) in understanding how hockey is played today and what players will thrive under the "new"game of the past several years. Colgate is starting to adapt, but was a little late to the party. Yale's fun to watch, they have skill and speed, but I don't think you can play them by "giving in" to their speed and giving up the neutral zone. RPI beat them at the Whale by being physical, but also by aggressively defending the neutral zone. I think Yale only had 22 shots in that game. Tonight we "backed up" so much out of respect for their speed that there was ZERO pressure on the penalty kill and no real pressure to force them to the outside. Finally, the freshmen Miller who played tonight for the Elis was last year's player-of-the-year in the USHL, a league that Allain uses as his main pipeline. I think he's already 21 years of age...

That was a terrific post!! Tomorrow night against Cornell IS HUGE.
Yale SHOULD win (if we play our game). I'll let you in on a little SECRET,though....... as we speak, I am much more concerned about RPI.
I watched the HFH game on the PC, and I saw the New Haven debacle live. It promises to be a VERY INTERESTING ECAC tourney this March. Even in the (I hope) highly unlikely circumstance that Yale isn't there.... I'm STILL going.

 

[Marmot]

Re: Colgate 2009-2010

Well, if I was going to look for any sort of positive out of another tough result against a quality opponent it would be this . . . looking at the cumulative stats I noticed that Robbie Bourdon is up to 18 points for the season--pretty nice rookie campaign. Was he on a different line last night? Also, Francois Brisebois is putting together a solid season as he has eclipsed the 20 point mark. As I noted after attending last night's game against QU, he looked very fast to me.

With respect to Yale, before last weekend I would have considered their chances against Cornell at Lynah slim--but then the Red got smoked by an undermanned Princeton team last Saturday night. So, I've got no feel for this one--it'll either be 1-0 Cornell or 5-2 Yale. How's that for a hedge--I should have been a meteorologist.

OK--please beat Brown!

 

[Marmot]

Re: Colgate 2009-2010

Also, Francois Brisebois is putting together a solid season as he has eclipsed the 20 point mark. As I noted after attending last night's game against QU, he looked very fast to me.

Sorry, I meant last WEEK's game against QU.

 

[ColSkate65]

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Agree with Marmot: Robbie Bourdon has been a pleasant surprise this year; great freshman campaign. Francois Brisebois is fun to watch, has great puck handling skills, and is fast. He has really come on this season - good fun just watching what he does on the ice.

Last nite: Yale just too quick, skilled, and a notch above us the entire game. Their players know where each other are automatically, and can make no-look passes and tape-to-tape passes unerringly. With about 4 minutes to go in the first period we did put on a great flurry around their net, cycling the puck down low really pressuring them - maybe the best offensive burst we had. But we need more of that...

BTW, Andy Mac got his 19th goal of the season last night as the Blues beat the Maple Leafs 4-0. GO ANDY!

 

['Gate Radio]

Re: Colgate 2009-2010

Bourdon was paired up with McIntyre and Brisebois last night and Prockow went from that line to a line with Cox and Williams.

 

[TheValleyRaider]

Re: Colgate 2009-2010

Biggest difference last night was Yale converting their opportunities. When they had PPs or when they put consistent pressure on net, they turned that into goals. When we got that kind of pressure, we just couldn't convert. Some of that is on Blase, who was good last night, but some of that is the difference between a Top 10 Team like Yale and where we are

As for Yale's chances in the big dance, I like them, but I'm hesitant after last season. As I remember it, they got physically outdone by Vermont, and may fall with a similar bad matchup. Still, I'll be rooting for them

 

[Magoo]

Re: Colgate 2009-2010

I hope Don comes back with Evin tomorrow night. Let's see him bounce back after a tough game.

Looks like Evin bounced back pretty well after a tough game. Good job by Don showing confidence in him. (Good call Magoo!!)

Forget about the bye - we're not gonna get one.

Well, if we win Tuesday we're in 4th place. Who knows whats gonna happen in this league. (Bad Call Magoo!!)

Come on guys. We need EVERYONE to step up on Tuesday if we're going to beat Cornell. I see Day had a goal and 2 assists tonight vs Brown. He had no points vs Yale and was very quiet on Friday. We need a big game from him Tuesday, as well as from Evin, McIntyre and everyone else. And we can't go 0-for-whatever on the power play and expect to win.

 

[TheGreenCoat]

Re: Colgate 2009-2010

Bourdon continues to impress and putting him on the McIntire-Brisbois line makes sense. Better tonight, although we continue to make some real coverage mistakes in our end. Seem to be much better on the rush than the dump-and-chase. Price's pass to Day on first short-handed goal was impressive. Again, ONE SIGNATURE WIN please and Tuesday's game is huge. BTW Yale won 2-1 in ot and after the first period outshot Cornell 41-8. Hoping Smith and McIntire break out of mini-slumps to finally beat the Big Red...

 

[Rainman]

Re: Colgate 2009-2010

BTW Yale won 2-1 in ot and after the first period outshot Cornell 41-8. Hoping Smith and McIntire break out of mini-slumps to finally beat the Big Red...

Actually, Yale outshot Cornell 54-20. I didn't watch that game (was obviously watching our game vs. Brown), but it was basically Yale vs. Scrivens. If we're going to have a great outcome Tuesday night, we're going to need to put shot after shot at Scrivens.

As far as tonight's win goes, I'm not going to comment. We've all seen this before: Colgate blows out Brown at Starr. We made sure the series history between us and the Bears (especially at Starr) was what it usually was, especially after last year's result. AND we have the tiebreaker with them should it come into play.

As for line combinations, keep Bourdon with Brisebois and McIntyre. Keep Day and Smith together. That's 2 solid scoring lines right there. Then have Williams and Cox on 1 line and Carty and Corrin on the 4th line. Those can be our checking lines. Defensively, keep going with what's been working. Don't know why McNamara wasn't playing tonight, but I guess he was possibly ill or just a healthy scratch. He'll probably be teamed with Price again come Tuesday.

We can win this game. Cornell can't climb in the standings (and they lose the tiebreaker with Yale now), but we can leapfrog into 4th with a win. All we need is a full 60 minutes and a great performance by both Evin and all six defensemen that play on Tuesday.

 

[Magoo]

Re: Colgate 2009-2010

I don't think anyone's going too crazy after last night. Yes, we figured we had a good chance to beat Brown. And with other teams losing last night it gives us a chance to get in the top 4 with a win on Tuesday, which all of us Colgate fans know won't be easy. It will take a huge effort just to have a CHANCE to beat Cornell.

 

[Rainman]

Re: Colgate 2009-2010

You guys have clearly proven you can beat the bad teams. As fans it is fun to watch you slide into pessimism with each loss against a good team and then swing to optimism when you beat a bad team. Back to pessimism on Wednesday morning? Thanks for the entertainment!

That's what happens when your team has a .500 record. Some will see the glass half-empty, others half-full. But only TWO of our wins are against teams with winning records, and they're against RIT and RPI. Our remaining schedule isn't easy, but with 3 of 5 games at home we can make some noise. As far as Tuesday goes, we'll just have to wait and see...

 

[TheValleyRaider]

Re: Colgate 2009-2010

I agree with the general tone of the Brown win. Good to see, but nothing to get really excited about. A win's a win, and I'll take it, and it looks good on the ledger, and that's really it. Interesting note, first season sweep of Bruno since 2005-06

As for Big Red Tuesday: They cannot afford to fall behind early. Cornell's system is too strong to have to try and break it all night long. Gotta get that early lead....

 

[burgie12]

Re: Colgate 2009-2010

Will there be streaming video / radio for Tuesday's game?

I'd like to listen in to the showdown in Hamilton, if possible.