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climate change times are a changin'

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Russian scientist Anna Kurchatova, from the Sub-Arctic Scientific Research Center, believes the cause is something more logical, such as global warming.

Global warming? Mmmm ... 'kay ...

If we're going with theories, where was the Romulan Nero and his mining ship Narada? :D
 
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Global warming? Mmmm ... 'kay ...

If we're going with theories, where was the Romulan Nero and his mining ship Narada? :D
Your link goes to the middle of the slide show - if you go back there are some amazing ones also. The saddest one is 3 - the Corvette museum in Bowling Green KY. Yes, some 'vettes went into it. But you know these are all Global warning connected, too, right?:rolleyes:
 
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Can you ever not respond with a right wing talking point?


It's way past time for you to grow a pair. Your incessant whimpering and whining is really getting tiresome!


You should be mad at 0bama for his betrayal, not me for observing it. You are like the person who gets angry at the weatherman when his golf game gets rained out. So your idol turns out to have feet of clay. I didn't make it that way.


Is Politico a "right-wing" organization? I didn't think it was, maybe it has changed. They were the ones that ranked Obama's broken promise as The Lie of the Year, not me. Go rant at them.


Or, let's talk human relations 101: it doesn't matter if you are progressive or conservative, Donkey or Elephant, atheist, evangelical, Hindu, Buddhist, Muslim or Jew: the rule is always the same for everyone: you never issue an ultimatum unless you intend to follow through, and if you do issue an ultimatum, you must follow through, or your credibility is blown. That's not a "right-wing" point of view, that is a basic human point of view.




Or, let's close with that famous "right-wing" activist, Bill Maher:

I'm sorry, but liberals are just sometimes useless Obama hacks without a shred of intellectual honesty.

Go rant at him for awhile for calling you out.


Your guy knowingly made promises and threats which he never intended to keep or follow through on. He's the person you should be mad at.

or to quote an ancient Roman, "Don't shoot the messenger."
 
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:rolleyes:

So you stewed over that one line post for a week, and all you come back with is a bunch of nonsensical sputtering? Wow.

Call me when you can respond to the post in the econ thread where I set forth in detail why all of your arguments were wrong.
 
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Global warming? Mmmm ... 'kay ...

If we're going with theories, where was the Romulan Nero and his mining ship Narada? :D

This is what happens when a journalist asks a scientist to postulate with no data. But if you do follow up with it a bit, methane leakage is at least a plausible explanation.

It kind of reminds me when a patient asks me to tell them what their symptom could be before I even examine them or get lab data back. You do not want a doctor openly postulating with insufficient data. We know way too many bad things ;)
 
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http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/18/u...-reins-in-its-utilities-carbon-emissions.html

Interesting read. I had no idea Minnesota had implemented such measures. Odd, since I was under the assumption that reducing carbon emissions meant it was impossible to live like we do...

Some excerpts (Sorry Priceless, I know the rule is four paragraphs, but some of this information is easily missed):
The Obama administration’s proposal would reduce power plants’ carbon pollution 30 percent from 2005 levels by 2030. Minnesota set similar nonbinding goals for its entire economy seven years ago: a 15 percent reduction by 2015, 25 percent by 2025 and 80 percent by 2050. (Minnesota measures carbon differently; by federal standards, its reductions would most likely be greater.)

Minnesota has enjoyed some lucky breaks, notably a fleeting bipartisan moment in 2007 when the Republican Gov. Tim Pawlenty proposed far-reaching energy overhauls — including the renewable energy and carbon-emissions standards — that legislators in both parties readily voted into law.

Some economic sectors like housing and farming so far have failed to meet the carbon reduction targets. Not so the power industry. “The utilities are on track to meet both the renewable energy standard and those emission reduction targets,” said Frank L. Kohlasch, the environmental analysis manager at the Minnesota Pollution Control Agency. Some utilities intend to beat the 2025 goal handily, he said.

When Minnesota’s largest power producer, Xcel Energy, needed a standby electricity source for peak periods of power consumption, the state asked an administrative law judge to evaluate the bids. Four companies competed, mostly offering to build natural gas-fired generators.

The winner, chosen in January, was a pioneering project to generate 100 megawatts of power from about 20 solar arrays across the state all near substations that funnel power directly to customers. A gas-fired plant would have relied on high-voltage lines that are often congested, and where electricity dissipates with distance.

A 30 percent federal tax credit given to solar-energy projects provided a crucial edge. But plummeting solar panel costs also helped make a once-unthinkable project competitive, said Blake Nixon, the president of Geronimo Energy, the Minnesota company that will build the arrays.

“Two years ago, people blinked and looked up, and costs for the primary component in the system, solar panels, had dropped 75 percent,” he said. “And the overall cost dropped 50 percent.”

Bill Grant, the deputy commissioner of Minnesota’s Commerce Department, said he believed that the federal tax credit for wind-energy projects was increasingly irrelevant. “My hunch is, given prices right now, we’d be building wind with or without the subsidy,” he said.

So why can't you East Coast NIMBYs figure it out? :D
 
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http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/18/u...-reins-in-its-utilities-carbon-emissions.html

Interesting read. I had no idea Minnesota had implemented such measures. Odd, since I was under the assumption that reducing carbon emissions meant it was impossible to live like we do...

Some excerpts (Sorry Priceless, I know the rule is four paragraphs, but some of this information is easily missed):










So why can't you East Coast NIMBYs figure it out? :D

Our family did wind a decade ago. At the time the local county struggled to get the systems for us to sell them energy. Today, they've got it down cold.
 
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