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climate change times are a changin'

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huskyfan said:
and does anyone know why the name was changed from global warming to climate change. help me out here. I'm trying to learn.
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Global warming describes the system wide, long term, net effect of increased greenhouse gases. Climate change merely emphasizes what should be readily apparent to more people, that in a complex, dynamic system, this effect will not be uniform over time and space. Climate change is used more now because global warming has been seized upon by the disingenuous to rile up the ignorant.
 
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Rover said:
That's been evident for a little while now. Conservatives tend to find comfort in being stupid or in denial, and hey that's cool. Climate change just doesn't get me going much, so I can't be bothered to get into a brawl over it. As long as we have an Admin that keeps raising fuel standards, expanding green energy, and burning cleaner fuel (gas instead of coal - BTW wasn't Clown supposed to post a link showing how natural gas is as dirty as coal).

Now if I DID want to argue, I'd bring up that huskyfan bought into the Unskewed Polls guy hook, line, and sinker last year, as was SURE Romney was going to be elected President, and how her arguments here sound eerily familiar....but again, I don't want to argue. :D ;)
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And liberals find comfort in character assassination or name calling while ignoring the points brought up contrary to their argument. I have been on the receiving end of this from you on other threads. Now it looks like others may be picking up your slack in this thread.


Foxton said:
Because if you were scientifically literate, you would not be using those terms like that or agreeing with that dolt bigblue. A theory and law are two different things not stages to be taken on a path.

A theory is an explanation for how and why that incorporates facts, laws, and testable hypothesis. And it will only be accepted as a theory if it conforms to those facts, laws, and the hypothesis that make it up. After a certain point, a theory becomes so strongly supported that new information that could have falsified it before is instead used to refine and make it more correct. It can never be proven, only falsified because nothing can be 100% tested for every possible circumstance.

To quote Einstein, "No amount of experimentation can ever prove me right; a single experiment can prove me wrong."

While a law is a generalization that will be true with given circumstances. Like the 2nd law of thermodynamics, it's going to be true so long as it's in a closed system. Or Ohm's Law for an electrical circuit, which is one of the laws that make up electromagnetic theory. The key point is that they are only said to be true given specific conditions they are not universal.
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*sigh* Okay, here was my point. If this whole climate change thing is so real and so predictable this theory would lead directly to a law. Maybe something on the lines of XX lbs. of CO2 in the air = (degrees C of climate change) but because the system is so dynamic and cannot be proven beyond a shadow of a doubt, it will never happen. So they are in fact stages along the same path.
 
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Fish people, planting tomatoes, Florida sinking is a good thing... I'm glad people are taking this issue seriously. I'd hate to see what this thread would be like if people didn't have questions about the debate. The only thing missing is ponies...

Take care folks!
 
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Priceless said:
Fish people, planting tomatoes, Florida sinking is a good thing... I'm glad people are taking this issue seriously. I'd hate to see what this thread would be like if people didn't have questions about the debate. The only thing missing is ponies...

Take care folks!
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Pretty sure you were the one to bring up evolving gills since we'll all be under water. Evolving gills = fish people. Seems like a logical conclusion to draw.

We'll miss you!

Here's a quote just so there's no doubt.

Priceless said:
No, we have to jump start evolution. Hopefully by the time the oceans cover the eastern seaboard our descendants will have adapted gills. If we're still walking on two feet human beings won't have a chance.
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http://board.uscho.com/showthread.p...re-a-changin&p=5960347&viewfull=1#post5960347
 
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Rover said:
In Mass, NIMBY's tried to appeal to the Audobon society to come out against windmills in Nantucket Sound. Society took a look and came up in support, saying that while there may be some bird deaths, it paled in comparison to the environmental benefits. I'll take them at their word on this.

Kindly post the environmental studies showing natural gas emits as much carbon as coal plants. I'm extremely curious who's saying that....

Special mice need to move to where solar panels aren't. While I'm exaggerating about paneling the entire state, those two things (solar, mice) can easily co-exist.

Hydro proposal is built on existing facilities (Hoover Dam, TVA, Niagara Falls, etc) not building new ones, so no new impact from my proposal.

Anything else? :D
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You know, if a bird is too stupid to figure out that running into a windmill is a bad idea, it's probably best left out of the gene pool.
 
Priceless said:
Fish people, planting tomatoes, Florida sinking is a good thing... I'm glad people are taking this issue seriously. I'd hate to see what this thread would be like if people didn't have questions about the debate. The only thing missing is ponies...

Take care folks!
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Ugh, I guess... This is how you guys look in here:

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Priceless said:
"Across the country, nearly 5 million people live in 2.6 million homes at less than 4 feet above high tide"

Where do you think we're going to move? Hey, I know. We'll all relocate to Edina, MN. Howdy neighbor!
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I was going to make a similar post:

You know the main reason I think all midwesterners should be deathly afraid of global warming? Because can you imagine all the west coast d-bags and east coast yuppies moving here? F* *k that.

:D
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
I was going to make a similar post:

You know the main reason I think all midwesterners should be deathly afraid of global warming? Because can you imagine all the west coast d-bags and east coast yuppies moving here? F* *k that.

:D
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Let's start building our fence now.
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
I was going to make a similar post:

You know the main reason I think all midwesterners should be deathly afraid of global warming? Because can you imagine all the west coast d-bags and east coast yuppies moving here? F* *k that.

:D
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Don't worry....there are mountains in the way from both directions. They'll stop there. We're good.
 
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MinnesotaNorthStar said:
842' :)
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My house is at an even 1,000. :) Hell, driving from my house to work I go from a high of about 1,100ish down to around 700-750 (can't remember the exact number here). Most of it occurring in a small stretch of road. Not a whole lot, obviously, but I thought it was interesting.
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
I was going to make a similar post:

You know the main reason I think all midwesterners should be deathly afraid of global warming? Because can you imagine all the west coast d-bags and east coast yuppies moving here? F* *k that.

:D
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"Hey, [easterners], go home! The [state]'s full!"
"Sorry, folks, you heard the lady.
 
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Tiggsy said:
I think it absolutely does.
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Why?

Tiggsy said:
How do you explain the Earth going in and out of an ice age with no humans around to impact the climate?
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I don't need to. The fact that the Earth's climate can fluctuate without man's influence doesn't prove it can't be accelerated independently of natural fluctuations.
 
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