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Climate Change 3: Whatever you do don't call it a twatwaffle

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Kepler said:
The river rises -- you don't say, "well, I didn't cause it so I'm not putting up sandbags."
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Having pitched a few sandbags in my day ...

if your neighbors don't do something also, and actually exacerbate the situation by lowering existing dikes, your work is for naught.

China is planning to build 43 new coal-fired power plants and 18 new blast furnaces — equivalent to adding about 1.5% to its current annual emissions — according to a new report. The new projects were announced in the first half of this year despite the world’s largest polluter pledging to bring its emissions to a peak before 2030, and to make the country carbon neutral by 2060.
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https://time.com/6090732/china-coal-power-plants-emissions/


But I'm still of the belief this is a good path: https://www.projecttundrand.com/
 
It's over. Stick a fork in the planet, it's done. It's not a matter of IF anymore it's a matter of WHEN. Or, as Carlin said, the planet is fine. We're fucked.
 
aparch said:
So your solution is to just throw your hands in the air and say "Fuck it, nothing *we* can do?"
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Read the last sentence of my post. Follow the link and see what that is.

But it remains that the Chinese are knocking down our "dikes" faster than we can fill "sandbags".
 
The Sicatoka said:
Read the last sentence of my post.

But it remains that the Chinese are knocking down our "dikes" faster than we can fill "sandbags".
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Global carbon tax.

Oh, wait, your side's against that, too.

Pardon me for thinking you are not arguing in good conscience. The irony is you aren't the one making money by slavishly repeating these industry talking points. Your ideology is destroying your life. But it's so important to cling to an identity, eh? You would literally rather ruin the lives of yourself and your loved ones then just admit "hey, I was wrong," and get off the crazy train.

You're one of the ones I honestly don't get. You're certainly smarter than average. What the fuck is it that stops you from abandoning a disastrous con? Is it really just ego, or you are so tied up with all the cultural BS that you're gonna march off the cliff with the rest of Your People?
 
Kepler said:
Global carbon tax.

Oh, wait, your side's against that, too.

Pardon me for thinking you are not arguing in good conscience. The irony is you aren't the one making money by slavishly repeating these industry talking points. Your ideology is destroying your life. But it's so important to cling to an identity, eh? You would literally rather ruin the lives of yourself and your loved ones then just admit "hey, I was wrong," and get off the crazy train.

You're one of the ones I honestly don't get. You're certainly smarter than average. What the fuck is it that stops you from abandoning a disastrous con? Is it really just ego, or you are so tied up with all the cultural BS that you're gonna march off the cliff with the rest of Your People?
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There's an alternate explanation.
 
Kepler said:
Global carbon tax.
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Pretty words with no action plan behind them, just like "carbon free by X" or "no ICE cars by Y". It's sound-byte good, but how.

We need Project Tundra. We need large scale energy storage. We need Gen IV nuclear. But we need them as more than pretty words before we transition.

Demonizing fossil fuels right now is hurting people. It's inflationary because energy affects (read: adds cost to) everything we do. It's bad for humanity right now because it'll exacerbate food shortages around the world. (I'm thinking starving 10 million Africans is bad policy. YMMV.) That's the global scale.

The local scale? Your local distribution company is not set up or equipped to handle a neighborhood full of EVs recharging. The transformers and cables are not designed for that load.


I see this as a marathon, not a sprint. In that mindset, I want to keep all our resources and tech and minds working and available.

I trust humanity to work through this and I'm willing to have it take a two to four decades.
 
The Sicatoka said:
I see this as a marathon, not a sprint.
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Except in this case the start of the marathon was 30 years ago and we're already at mile 20. It's just a 10k left to the finish line, and we have no clue how to finish the race before the sag wagon pulls us off the course because the Boomers lollygagged their way this far.

So yes, the solutions at this point will hurt because Republicans like yourself have buried their heads in the sand and didn't want to deal with it when it would've been less costly to do so.
 
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