FadeToBlack&Gold
Microlot Marxist
Re: Climate Change 2: Thank God for Global Warming
I see grandpa's word salads have gotten worse since his last visit.
I see grandpa's word salads have gotten worse since his last visit.
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Climate Change 2: Thank God for Global Warming
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Jimjamesak
Already insane, UAA making it worse
Re: Climate Change 2: Thank God for Global Warming
It’s hot as balls in Alaska.
It’s hot as balls in Alaska.
But it’s not climate change...
Jimjamesak
Already insane, UAA making it worse
Re: Climate Change 2: Thank God for Global Warming
On the wildfire front, there’s one still burning south of Anchorage near Sterling and Soldotna, there’s still a small, contained one in Anchorage (though that may be out already), and, as of yesterday, there’s a new one north of Anchorage near Talkeetna. And Anchorage is covered in smoke from all of them.
And it’s the Fourth so by the end of the day there’ll probably be 3 or 4 more because people are dumb and ignore burn bans because “FIREWORKS! FREEDUMB!”
On the wildfire front, there’s one still burning south of Anchorage near Sterling and Soldotna, there’s still a small, contained one in Anchorage (though that may be out already), and, as of yesterday, there’s a new one north of Anchorage near Talkeetna. And Anchorage is covered in smoke from all of them.
And it’s the Fourth so by the end of the day there’ll probably be 3 or 4 more because people are dumb and ignore burn bans because “FIREWORKS! FREEDUMB!”
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: Climate Change 2: Thank God for Global Warming
I'm blocked so, what is "hot"? 50?
I'm blocked so, what is "hot"? 50?
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: Climate Change 2: Thank God for Global Warming
When my AZ wife first came east she was blown away by the availability of fireworks. She basically thought it was like giving everybody dynamite because she comes from a hellhole where if you drop a cigarette 10k acres burn within 15 seconds.
And we're retiring there. But that's OK because by then it will be the surface of the sun so upon landing we will instantly vaporize.
I asked her "so what do people do on the 4th?" and she said, "we fire guns in the air." You know... not dangerous at all.
When my AZ wife first came east she was blown away by the availability of fireworks. She basically thought it was like giving everybody dynamite because she comes from a hellhole where if you drop a cigarette 10k acres burn within 15 seconds.
And we're retiring there. But that's OK because by then it will be the surface of the sun so upon landing we will instantly vaporize.
I asked her "so what do people do on the 4th?" and she said, "we fire guns in the air." You know... not dangerous at all.
Jimjamesak
Already insane, UAA making it worse
Mid 80’s to potentially low 90’s in places.I'm blocked so, what is "hot"? 50?
Plus no air conditioning in most places.
RaceBoarder
Waiting for the Snow to fly...
Re: Climate Change 2: Thank God for Global Warming
Saw a comment from Tom Skilling (long time Chicago meteorologist) basically saying that the NWS Alaska can't issue a "Heat Advisory/Watch" up there because the criteria doesn't exist. (Local NWS stations form their own criteria based on local climate, so Atlanta's will be different from Seattle's)
Jimjamesak
Already insane, UAA making it worse
Re: Climate Change 2: Thank God for Global Warming
F- it’s hot...
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Anchorage International Airport has just reached 89 degrees. The all time record high temperature for <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Anchorage?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Anchorage</a> has officially been broken. The previous record of 85 degrees was set on June 14, 1969 (period of record 1952-2019). <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AKwx?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AKwx</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/RecordHeat?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#RecordHeat</a></p>— NWS Anchorage (@NWSAnchorage) <a href="https://twitter.com/NWSAnchorage/status/1146946316250992640?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 5, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
F- it’s hot...
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Anchorage International Airport has just reached 89 degrees. The all time record high temperature for <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Anchorage?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Anchorage</a> has officially been broken. The previous record of 85 degrees was set on June 14, 1969 (period of record 1952-2019). <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AKwx?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AKwx</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/RecordHeat?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#RecordHeat</a></p>— NWS Anchorage (@NWSAnchorage) <a href="https://twitter.com/NWSAnchorage/status/1146946316250992640?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 5, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Jimjamesak
Already insane, UAA making it worse
Remind me to bring this up at the next secret cabal meeting. Also, the checks from Soros still haven’t come in.
And I lied, it hit 90:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">UPDATE! At 5pm this afternoon, <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Anchorage?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Anchorage</a> International Airport offically hit 90 degrees for the first time on record. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AKwx?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AKwx</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/RecordHeat?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#RecordHeat</a></p>— NWS Anchorage (@NWSAnchorage) <a href="https://twitter.com/NWSAnchorage/status/1147022118225235968?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 5, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Quick note, Anchorage International is next to the water so it’s temperatures tend to be moderated versus the rest of Anchorage so it could’ve been 95 or so in places.
Re: Climate Change 2: Thank God for Global Warming
Forgive the length of this, but Kep's post above prompted me to look up this passage from Uninhabitable Earth: Life after Warming.
The scroll of cognitive biases identified by behavioral psychologists and fellow travelers over the last half century is, like a social media feed, apparently infinite, and every single one distorts and distends our perception of a changing climate--a threat as imminent and immediate as the approach of a predator, but viewed always through a bell jar.
There is, to start with, anchoring, which explains how we build mental models around as few as one or two initial examples, no matter how unrepresentative--in the case of global warming, the world we know today, which is reasonably temperate. There is also the ambiguity effect, which suggests that most people are so uncomfortable contemplating uncertainty, they will accept lesser outcomes in a bargain to avoid dealing with it. In theory, with climate, uncertainty should be an argument for action--much of the ambiguity arises from the range of possible human inputs, a quite concrete prompt we choose to process instead as a riddle, which discourages us.
There is anthropocentric thinking, by which we build our view of the universe outward from our own experience, a reflexive tendency that some especially ruthless environmentalists have derided as "human supremacy" and that surely shapes our ability to apprehend genuinely existential threats to the species--a shortcoming many climate scientists have mocked: "the planet will survive," they say; "it's the humans that may not."
There is automation bias, which describes a preference for algorithmic and other kinds of nonhuman decision making, and also applies to our generations-long deference to market forces as something like an infallible, or at least an unbeatable, overseer. In the case of climate, this has meant trusting that economic systems unencumbered by regulation or restriction, would solve the problem of global warming as naturally, as surely as they had solved the problems of pollution, inequality, justice, and conflict.
These biases are drawn only from the A volume of literature--and are just a sampling of that volume. Among the most destructive effects that appear later in the behavioral economics library are these: the bystander effect, or our tendency to wait for others to act rather than acting ourselves; confirmation bias, by which we seek evidence for that we already understand to be true, such as the promise that human life will endure, rather than endure the cognitive pain of reconceptualizing our world; the default effect, or tendency to choose the present option over alternatives, which is related to the status quo bias, or preference for things as they are, however bad that is, and to the endowment effect, or instinct to demand more to give up something we have than we actually value it (or had paid to acquire or establish ti). We have an illusion of control, the behavioral economists tell us, and also suffer from overconfidence and optimism bias. We also have a pessimism bias, not that it compensates--instead it pushes us to see challenges as predetermined defeats and to hear alarm, perhaps especially on climate, as cries of fatalism. The opposite of a cognitive bias, in other words, is not clear thinking but another cognitive bias. We can't see anything but through cataracts of self-deception.
. . .
That climate change demands expertise, and faith in it, at precisely the moment when public confidence in expertise is collapsing, is another of its historical ironies. That climate change touches each of these biases is not a curiosity, or a coincidence, or an anomaly. It is a mark of just how big it is, and how much about human life it touches--which is to say, nearly everything.
Forgive the length of this, but Kep's post above prompted me to look up this passage from Uninhabitable Earth: Life after Warming.
The scroll of cognitive biases identified by behavioral psychologists and fellow travelers over the last half century is, like a social media feed, apparently infinite, and every single one distorts and distends our perception of a changing climate--a threat as imminent and immediate as the approach of a predator, but viewed always through a bell jar.
There is, to start with, anchoring, which explains how we build mental models around as few as one or two initial examples, no matter how unrepresentative--in the case of global warming, the world we know today, which is reasonably temperate. There is also the ambiguity effect, which suggests that most people are so uncomfortable contemplating uncertainty, they will accept lesser outcomes in a bargain to avoid dealing with it. In theory, with climate, uncertainty should be an argument for action--much of the ambiguity arises from the range of possible human inputs, a quite concrete prompt we choose to process instead as a riddle, which discourages us.
There is anthropocentric thinking, by which we build our view of the universe outward from our own experience, a reflexive tendency that some especially ruthless environmentalists have derided as "human supremacy" and that surely shapes our ability to apprehend genuinely existential threats to the species--a shortcoming many climate scientists have mocked: "the planet will survive," they say; "it's the humans that may not."
There is automation bias, which describes a preference for algorithmic and other kinds of nonhuman decision making, and also applies to our generations-long deference to market forces as something like an infallible, or at least an unbeatable, overseer. In the case of climate, this has meant trusting that economic systems unencumbered by regulation or restriction, would solve the problem of global warming as naturally, as surely as they had solved the problems of pollution, inequality, justice, and conflict.
These biases are drawn only from the A volume of literature--and are just a sampling of that volume. Among the most destructive effects that appear later in the behavioral economics library are these: the bystander effect, or our tendency to wait for others to act rather than acting ourselves; confirmation bias, by which we seek evidence for that we already understand to be true, such as the promise that human life will endure, rather than endure the cognitive pain of reconceptualizing our world; the default effect, or tendency to choose the present option over alternatives, which is related to the status quo bias, or preference for things as they are, however bad that is, and to the endowment effect, or instinct to demand more to give up something we have than we actually value it (or had paid to acquire or establish ti). We have an illusion of control, the behavioral economists tell us, and also suffer from overconfidence and optimism bias. We also have a pessimism bias, not that it compensates--instead it pushes us to see challenges as predetermined defeats and to hear alarm, perhaps especially on climate, as cries of fatalism. The opposite of a cognitive bias, in other words, is not clear thinking but another cognitive bias. We can't see anything but through cataracts of self-deception.
. . .
That climate change demands expertise, and faith in it, at precisely the moment when public confidence in expertise is collapsing, is another of its historical ironies. That climate change touches each of these biases is not a curiosity, or a coincidence, or an anomaly. It is a mark of just how big it is, and how much about human life it touches--which is to say, nearly everything.
ScoobyDoo
NPC
Re: Climate Change 2: Thank God for Global Warming
Never ceases to amaze me how stupidity is lauded in this country. Pathetic.
Never ceases to amaze me how stupidity is lauded in this country. Pathetic.
Jimjamesak
Already insane, UAA making it worse
They are gullible from people who make money over people.
The idea that poor people consistently side with the hyper rich is amazing, moreso when it harms the poor really badly. See coal mining.
FadeToBlack&Gold
Microlot Marxist
Re: Climate Change 2: Thank God for Global Warming
Gives a whole new meaning to "baked Alaska".
Gives a whole new meaning to "baked Alaska".
Jimjamesak
Already insane, UAA making it worse
That happens around 4:20...Gives a whole new meaning to "baked Alaska".
D
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Re: Climate Change 2: Thank God for Global Warming
Yeah screw those bees, we have tax cuts to pay for and gold trips
https://thehill.com/policy/energy-e...collection-for-honeybees-after?rnd=1562444798
Yeah screw those bees, we have tax cuts to pay for and gold trips
https://thehill.com/policy/energy-e...collection-for-honeybees-after?rnd=1562444798
ScoobyDoo
NPC
No bees no planet no food. Goodbye Earth.
ScoobyDoo
NPC
Re: Climate Change 2: Thank God for Global Warming
Amazing story being done on 60 Minutes.
Apparently the permafrost contains more carbon then all the coal and oil left to burn in the World. If it melts, we're doomed.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/siberi...-combat-climate-change-60-minutes-2019-07-07/
Amazing story being done on 60 Minutes.
Apparently the permafrost contains more carbon then all the coal and oil left to burn in the World. If it melts, we're doomed.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/siberi...-combat-climate-change-60-minutes-2019-07-07/
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