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Climate Change 2: Thank God for Global Warming

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dxmnkd316 said:
Solar is so tricky this far north. 30-40 years from now I have faith that we’ll have solved many energy challenges. And I’m really hoping solar is feasible as a supplement this far north on a widespread scale.

I would love to have a house with a solar roof.
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Storage storage storage. Like to see the day where we pay a monthly fee to be connected to the power company and the power company barely ever had to produce anything.
 
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walrus said:
cold and bright sunny day in February make for great PV production as the panel stays cooler and produces more energy. Trouble for me here is November December January. Might as well cover panels with a tarp.

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Yeah, but the solar intensity this late in the year even at peak sunlight is but a fraction of that in the southern US.


ScoobyDoo said:
Storage storage storage. Like to see the day where we pay a monthly fee to be connected to the power company and the power company barely ever had to produce anything.
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That’s not feasible. Steam-based generators need to run all the time to be efficient. Startup and shutdown are too costly.

Maybe in 100 years w can get to decentralization. But by then I would hope to have fusion be economical.
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
Yeah, but the solar intensity this late in the year even at peak sunlight is but a fraction of that in the southern US.




That’s not feasible. Steam-based generators need to run all the time to be efficient. Startup and shutdown are too costly.

Maybe in 100 years w can get to decentralization. But by then I would hope to have fusion be economical.
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That's fine. Then produce the minimum to keep the engine running.
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
Fine. Then let's go coal. We have tons of that.
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He is correct in what he says unless you want to live in a 3rd world country where the power goes on and off all time. One of the biggest challenges is how to keep power on when all of a sudden solar wind etc stops for whatever reason.

Another issue, tax credits for my solar, should you help pay for my solar? And if I go grid tied and end up with minimum payments for electric bill should you be paying for the grid upkeep while I dont?

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walrus said:
He is correct in what he says unless you want to live in a 3rd world country where the power goes on and off all time. One of the biggest challenges is how to keep power on when all of a sudden solar wind etc stops for whatever reason.

Another issue, tax credits for my solar, should you help pay for my solar? And if I go grid tied and end up with minimum payments for electric bill should you be paying for the grid upkeep while I dont?

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Dude, I'll never understand why conservatives are always but, but, but. You may not be saying this - but so often its, 'that's impossible' and eventually it happens regardless of people trying to put the breaks on. You go forward, you push the envelope, you own the technology, and pretty soon your landline is an Apple Iphone X.
 
walrus said:
He is correct in what he says unless you want to live in a 3rd world country where the power goes on and off all time. One of the biggest challenges is how to keep power on when all of a sudden solar wind etc stops for whatever reason.

Another issue, tax credits for my solar, should you help pay for my solar? And if I go grid tied and end up with minimum payments for electric bill should you be paying for the grid upkeep while I dont?

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Storage technology is a growing solution. Also, while the sun doesn't shine at night, demand for power is less at night, too. And with wind, it produces so much at night that spot power prices can go negative.

It's not like you're the first one to ever think about these issues.
 
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5mn_Major said:
Dude, I'll never understand why conservatives are always but, but, but. You may not be saying this - but so often its, 'that's impossible' and eventually it happens regardless of people trying to put the breaks on. You go forward, you push the envelope, you own the technology, and pretty soon your landline is an Apple Iphone X.
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I never said it was impossible, it may take a change in the way we look at electrical power. I'd bet conservation would get us quicker gains toward getting off CO2 producing powerplants.
 
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Ben Sasse supposed centrist just whiffed on Fox News Sunday while talking about Climate Change.

Coal is the only answer.
 
ScoobyDoo said:
Ben Sasse supposed centrist just whiffed on Fox News Sunday while talking about Climate Change.

Coal is the only answer.
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He's never said he's a centrist. He's just a more eloquent conservative. He still votes for the GOP platform lockstep, he just doesn't like Trump.
 
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Yeah Sasse has never pretended to be a Centrist. He sometimes pretends to be Anti-Trump but never anything near the Center.
 
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Handyman said:
Yeah Sasse has never pretended to be a Centrist. He sometimes pretends to be Anti-Trump but never anything near the Center.
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The media has pretended. A lot. I'd like to see real reporting on how far ****ing right all these people in the GOP really are.
 
Handyman said:
Yeah Sasse has never pretended to be a Centrist. He sometimes pretends to be Anti-Trump but never anything near the Center.
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This. Any perceived centrism from Sasse is the media's false interpretation of Never Trump neocons as "centrists".

It's part of their ridiculous fear of being accused of bias.
 
walrus said:
Yes and they still don't have an answer.
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Doesn't mean they won't have one in 10 years. 10 years ago there was no fracking, wind was just getting off the ground at the utility scale level, and utility scale solar was virtually non existent.

If I had to guess, absent a major scientific event like finding out natural gas is dirtier than coal, there will not be another coal plant built in this country after 2030.
 
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