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Cars: 2015

Twitch Boy said:
Was looking at the '19 Miata (which has/will have the older Skyactiv) and was curious about the 91 octane preference.
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I'd love a Miata. But it just ain't happening with a little one on the way and the both my wife and I having to work. Maybe someday I'll get a little roadster during the upcoming crisis.

Don't get the Fiata. I know it's tempting, but they go around the track at about the same time. Most will still drive these things around town, and the turbo lag in the Fiat is atrocious, or so I hear. The Fiata's suspension is great, though. I've watched a lot of video reviews where people put them head-to-head, and as I mentioned before the track times are almost identical. However, all of them felt like the Mazda HAD to be faster, before hearing their time. This is probably from a much more lively suspension that made them work a bit harder.

Another competent to this new skyactiv-x is that it does have an itty-bitty supercharger. You can really geek out about this motor setup online. It's fascinating.
 
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state of hockey said:
I'd love a Miata. But it just ain't happening with a little one on the way and the both my wife and I having to work. Maybe someday I'll get a little roadster during the upcoming crisis.

Don't get the Fiata. I know it's tempting, but they go around the track at about the same time. Most will still drive these things around town, and the turbo lag in the Fiat is atrocious, or so I hear. The Fiata's suspension is great, though. I've watched a lot of video reviews where people put them head-to-head, and as I mentioned before the track times are almost identical. However, all of them felt like the Mazda HAD to be faster, before hearing their time. This is probably from a much more lively suspension that made them work a bit harder.

Another competent to this new skyactiv-x is that it does have an itty-bitty supercharger. You can really geek out about this motor setup online. It's fascinating.
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There's a Fiata who hangs out at one of the local watering holes - love the styling, but decided to take a pass on the engine. The '19 Miata gets a reworked engine with a nice 25 HP bump up high.

It's pretty much between the '19 Miata and a Kia Stinger GT at this point. Thought about a Civic Type R, but saw the fake vents and just couldn't bring myself to accept it.

Would love an F-150 Raptor, but it wouldn't fit through my garage and a quick Google search shows me they're getting obscene markups in Denver.
 
Twitch Boy said:
There's a Fiata who hangs out at one of the local watering holes - love the styling, but decided to take a pass on the engine. The '19 Miata gets a reworked engine with a nice 25 HP bump up high.

It's pretty much between the '19 Miata and a Kia Stinger GT at this point. Thought about a Civic Type R, but saw the fake vents and just couldn't bring myself to accept it.

Would love an F-150 Raptor, but it wouldn't fit through my garage and a quick Google search shows me they're getting obscene markups in Denver.
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The Raptor just isn't losing value. It's insane. A great investment as far as vehicles go.
 
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Shelby GT500 to begin munching on crowds at Cars and Coffee in 2020 with ~700 HP.

Looks nice, but lack of a manual option is going to sting.
 
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Hyundai Genesis, one of the cars I was looking at, gets another award.

And Twitch, unless you go high-end (which the GT500 is), and per some other feedback, isn't true manual basically dead? It's all the paddles now and such (even my "official" automatic, I can switch to paddles, if I want).
 
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The Rube said:
Hyundai Genesis, one of the cars I was looking at, gets another award.

And Twitch, unless you go high-end (which the GT500 is), and per some other feedback, isn't true manual basically dead? It's all the paddles now and such (even my "official" automatic, I can switch to paddles, if I want).
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Was surprised not to see one here. Most of the other 'Murican cars with stupid amounts of torque (Corvette ZR1, Camaro ZL1, Hellcat) have them as an option. They can be easier to engineer to stand up to gobs of torque, plus 'Murican flappy paddles tend to upshift okay, but are clunky when downshifting.

And things are getting more than just friends between me and the Genesis' Kia-based sporty brother, the Stinger GT. Seeing a few lots with loaded 2018s left - hold out and see if I can knock a few grand off. (And - heh - only available in automatic.)
 
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The Rube said:
Hyundai Genesis, one of the cars I was looking at, gets another award.

And Twitch, unless you go high-end (which the GT500 is), and per some other feedback, isn't true manual basically dead? It's all the paddles now and such (even my "official" automatic, I can switch to paddles, if I want).
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I have a true manual (though it has some sort of weird anti-roll protection on hills for 3 seconds), but no flappy paddles for me. It was hard to get unless I settled for specific trim models, which was kind of a bummer.
 
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The Rube said:
Hyundai Genesis, one of the cars I was looking at, gets another award.

And Twitch, unless you go high-end (which the GT500 is), and per some other feedback, isn't true manual basically dead? It's all the paddles now and such (even my "official" automatic, I can switch to paddles, if I want).
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For speed, automatics are much more efficient, and faster to shift than even the best drivers in the world. So, really the only reason for a manual in a sports car/muscle car, is for user preference/fun to drive. Which, definitely is a thing. Also, as was mentioned, there may be some cases where a manual handles massive torque better, but that is tenuous too. Automatic transmissions are being built better and better these days, and they can build them to handle monster torque.
 
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In five years it's going to be hard to find any production car with a manual. In ten years they'll be extinct except as some sort of vanity option offered by one or two limited production cars.
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
In five years it's going to be hard to find any production car with a manual. In ten years they'll be extinct except as some sort of vanity option offered by one or two limited production cars.
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I haven't been to the U.K. in a while, but the last time I rented a car there they only had one automatic on the lot. Everything else was manual. I go the auto at my wife's request, and she ended up only driving once the whole week!

(woah, that was back in 2004!, so I guess it was a long time ago)

It seemed like they were really resisting the transition back then.
 
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I rented in Ireland two years ago and in France this past December. Automatics were available but definitely at a premium - I want to say it was close to $10-$15 more per day for an auto. That adds up in a hurry over two weeks. One thing I liked about having a manual in Ireland is it kept me much more engaged while driving and since I was on the other side of the car and road this was important. :) Though it was weird to shift with my left hand.
 
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SE Asia it's 95% (to be more precise Philippines, Thailand and Singapore) automatics although many models come with a clutchless manual.
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
I don't recall that much of a premium when I rented in Scotland.
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there definitely was when I rented in England. When he described the auto, he said the car was "really big and expensive". It was not big by my standards (I think it was a Renault Scénic if I remember right)
 
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First time my Subaru has been tested with snow and slippery conditions - passed with flying colors. It was kind of fun. :) I am sure my Nissan would not have gotten out of my neighborhood with unplowed streets (much less up the hill).
 
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So it seems we're still on this thread after 4 years.

I've had my 2012 Ford Fusion for 7 years this July. Looking for something new (or new to me - lightly used would be fine). I'm not an SUV or truck guy, probably looking at another sedan. I don't think convertibles and/or RWD work well in my current climate.
 
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FadeToBlack&Gold said:
So it seems we're still on this thread after 4 years.

I've had my 2012 Ford Fusion for 7 years this July. Looking for something new (or new to me - lightly used would be fine). I'm not an SUV or truck guy, probably looking at another sedan. I don't think convertibles and/or RWD work well in my current climate.
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Shoot, I was going to suggest a Hyundai Genesis, they come pretty cheap for 2-3YO used...but RWD. However, definitely look at vehicles that are about 2 years off...you can find some awesome deals, and not worry about wear and tear.
 
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The Rube said:
Shoot, I was going to suggest a Hyundai Genesis, they come pretty cheap for 2-3YO used...but RWD. However, definitely look at vehicles that are about 2 years off...you can find some awesome deals, and not worry about wear and tear.
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Also look at its Kia-based sporty brother the Stinger. Comes in V4 and V6 flavors - in your case the V4 would be more than adequate. Had my finger on the trigger for a GT (V6) myself until I took one last look at the new Miatas for funsies and saw a price I couldn't pass up.

Plus sport sedans in general are going out of vogue so hit a desperate dealer and you can score a deal.
 
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