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Campaign 2016 - Snow White and the 7 dwarfs.

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Re: Campaign 2016 - Snow White and the 7 dwarfs.

Cruz has started sending out donation mailers in Michigan (presumably other states are getting hit up, too). Some anonymous donor or group is matching all individual contributions to his camp at the moment, up to a certain amount.
 
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Substitute "New Hampshire" for "Iowa" and you can make an even stronger statement. And it's not just fame and attention. The primary is actually big business for New Hamster.

Thank goodness for NH that they're still the first primary and "important". With no sales tax and no income tax, it's a boon to have the candidates/supporters come in and spend their money.
 
Re: Campaign 2016 - Snow White and the 7 dwarfs.

No. What's funny is about ten years from now people like you and JJ are going to be running around claiming wifi or high speed internet access is a "basic human right."
Seems to me that to qualify as a basic human right it ought to be something that is basic to the human species.

I'd say one of my basic human rights is to be protected from scumbags like this one.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/03/b...emos-show.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur&_r=0
 
Re: Campaign 2016 - Snow White and the 7 dwarfs.

There are definitely "wants" that become "needs" when the society is wealthy enough to be able to easily afford them. IIRC, we could completely eliminate homelessness by spending less than what Americans spend on cosmetics in a year.

Let's start with food, clothing and shelter as basic "rights." As society gets more and more wealthy I'd add health care, education, and employment. If we get rich enough, say, Norway's per capita wealth, we might even get to high speed internet.

The idea that the only right that is sacrosanct is the right to amass infinite personal wealth doesn't pass any test of either ethics or efficiency. It's only an unspoken assumption in our society because the people it benefits are also the ones who control cultural messaging.
 
Re: Campaign 2016 - Snow White and the 7 dwarfs.

Simple explanation of what's wrong with the American economy.

Look at this list.

First, sort by Net Mean Wealth.

Then, sort by Net Median Wealth.

Q. E. D.
 
Re: Campaign 2016 - Snow White and the 7 dwarfs.

There are definitely "wants" that become "needs" when the society is wealthy enough to be able to easily afford them. IIRC, we could completely eliminate homelessness by spending less than what Americans spend on cosmetics in a year.

Let's start with food, clothing and shelter as basic "rights." As society gets more and more wealthy I'd add health care, education, and employment. If we get rich enough, say, Norway's per capita wealth, we might even get to high speed internet.

The idea that the only right that is sacrosanct is the right to amass infinite personal wealth doesn't pass any test of either ethics or efficiency. It's only an unspoken assumption in our society because the people it benefits are also the ones who control cultural messaging.

kumbayaaaaaa my lord!!!! kumbaya :)

human nature itself keeps these "things" from being eliminated. there are people who shun shelter because they don't want it. there are empty ****hole houses that are left for ruin because people don't give two rats asses to bother with upkeep.

being one to concentrate of fairlyland wishes that will never ever come to fruition are a waste of time and effort.

like wishing for world peace. never gonna get never gonna get it.....never gonna get it never gonna get it.... never gonna get it (nah nah nah nah)

please concentrate of the 'doable'. we'll all be better off.
 
Re: Campaign 2016 - Snow White and the 7 dwarfs.

Simple explanation of what's wrong with the American economy.

Look at this list.

First, sort by Net Mean Wealth.

Then, sort by Net Median Wealth.

Q. E. D.

how many refugees and border crossings are the swiss/lux/aussies dealing with?

funny how many times you miss the forest for the trees :p
 
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kumbayaaaaaa my lord!!!! kumbaya :)

human nature itself keeps these "things" from being eliminated. there are people who shun shelter because they don't want it. there are empty ****hole houses that are left for ruin because people don't give two rats asses to bother with upkeep.

being one to concentrate of fairlyland wishes that will never ever come to fruition are a waste of time and effort.

like wishing for world peace. never gonna get never gonna get it.....never gonna get it never gonna get it.... never gonna get it (nah nah nah nah)

please concentrate of the 'doable'. we'll all be better off.

Well, you must be a darn limousine libral jus' like me with that "let them eat cake" comment!

Pardon me mookie, but do you have any grey poupon? :D

- Did I do that right Handy/Kep/Jim? ;)
 
Re: Campaign 2016 - Snow White and the 7 dwarfs.

It's hard so don't try.

We know you're wrong, because we've done it before. A hybrid free market economy paired with an aggressive social safety net works. It worked from the 40's through the 70's, and it only stopped working when a highly motivated, well-connected and resource-rich class worked very hard to deliberately destroy it.

Of course, the best way to ensure that doesn't happen is to say "it's impossible, just give up," which is why that message is pervasive. For every meme out there, always ask, "cui bono?"
 
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Did I do that right Handy/Kep/Jim? ;)

You could throw in a quote of Jane Adams*, but not bad for a beginner! :)

But to be fair, the people calling you a limousine liberal are wrong. You're not a liberal. You're a centrist with no choice but to vote Democratic because the Republicans have taken up residence in Berchtesgaden. And as such we welcome you with open arms.

* "The good we secure for ourselves is precarious and uncertain until it is secured for all of us and incorporated into our common life."
 
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Re: Campaign 2016 - Snow White and the 7 dwarfs.

Simple explanation of what's wrong with the American economy.

Look at this list.

First, sort by Net Mean Wealth.

Then, sort by Net Median Wealth.

Q. E. D.

So I did a quick ratio between the two and got some interesting results:

USA: 6.7:1
Sweeden: 5.7:1
Switzerland: 5.3:1
Denmark: 4.4:1
Norway: 4.1:1
Germany: 3.9:1
Austria: 3.5:1
Canada: 2.8:1
United Kingdom: 2.2:1
France: 2.1:1
Japan: 2.0:1
 
Re: Campaign 2016 - Snow White and the 7 dwarfs.

So I did a quick ratio between the two and got some interesting results:

USA: 6.7:1
Sweeden: 5.7:1
Switzerland: 5.3:1
Denmark: 4.4:1
Norway: 4.1:1
Germany: 3.9:1
Austria: 3.5:1
Canada: 2.8:1
United Kingdom: 2.2:1
France: 2.1:1
Japan: 2.0:1

You're screwing up my perception of Scandinavia as a socialist workers' paradise. What's up?
 
Re: Campaign 2016 - Snow White and the 7 dwarfs.

I'll be curious if Hillary goes after Bernie tonight in the debate for his middle class tax hikes in taxphobic New Hampshire. A lot of Dems are people who left Mass because its really expensive here but do the brutal 2 hour commute into town (approx. 35 miles :eek:)to their jobs in metro Boston. A tax hike proposal might resonate with them, so lets see how she plays this.
 
Re: Campaign 2016 - Snow White and the 7 dwarfs.

So I did a quick ratio between the two and got some interesting results:

USA: 6.7:1
Sweeden: 5.7:1
Switzerland: 5.3:1
Denmark: 4.4:1
Norway: 4.1:1
Germany: 3.9:1
Austria: 3.5:1
Canada: 2.8:1
United Kingdom: 2.2:1
France: 2.1:1
Japan: 2.0:1

That's really interesting. It probably tracks well with Gini.
 
Re: Campaign 2016 - Snow White and the 7 dwarfs.

You could throw in a quote of Jane Adams*, but not bad for a beginner! :)

But to be fair, the people calling you a limousine liberal are wrong. You're not a liberal. You're a centrist with no choice but to vote Democratic because the Republicans have taken up residence in Berchtesgaden. And as such we welcome you with open arms.

* "The good we secure for ourselves is precarious and uncertain until it is secured for all of us and incorporated into our common life."

Kep, everybody who doesn't want tax rates as high as Sweden isn't necessarily a centrist. ;)
 
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