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Campaign 2016 - Primary season! Duck (questions) season!

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Really? I can vote for legislators who can vote to disenfranchise convicted felons. I can vote for legislators who restrict the right to vote to citizens only. I can vote for legislators who restrict who I may marry.

Granted, it does not matter anymore as a judge can do what he wants regardless of the other 2 branches of government.

You are longing for the good ol' days before Marbury v. Madison?
 
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Anyone else see that Charles Koch came out and supported Sanders opinions on campaign finances. How it is tipped in favor of the privileged. Not sure if this means he supports overturning Citizens United.
 
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Anyone else see that Charles Koch came out and supported Sanders opinions on campaign finances. How it is tipped in favor of the privileged. Not sure if this means he supports overturning Citizens United.

The Kochs object to elections being bought by insiders. They prefer wealth without connections to decide elections.

They're purist plutocrats. :p
 
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I think this is the first time the same article has come up independently three times, not just in the same thread, but within about a ten-post interval. :)
 
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It's Kos, I know, I know, but still, this is a great headline. Some of the Comments aren't bad, either.
 
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Maybe this will come up after Scalia's funeral, but I've seen little discussion of getting Citizens United overturned now that he's gone. While I do call out Sanders on his bluster occasionally, this one is right up his alley. Were I him I'd roll out a comprehensive federal law defining new campaign finance and disclosure rules far beyond even what was enacted post Watergate, coupled with choosing a like minded justice for the SCOTUS if the Senate continues to stonewall.
 
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Things get interesting if the polls start going in the toilet for the GOP. What happens if Obama nominates a Souter and the GOP stonewalls but then we're in September and the polls have Cruz 15 points down to Hillary with the Senate looking like a 10-seat pick-up for the Dems?

Does the GOP do a 180 and confirm?

Does Obama withdraw the nomination in preference to Hillary putting up a Douglas?
 
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538 thinks Cruz has a systemic problem: his states are proportional while Trump's and Rubio's are winner take all. This means his delegate count is going to significantly under-perform his standing in the polls.
 
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Things get interesting if the polls start going in the toilet for the GOP. What happens if Obama nominates a Souter and the GOP stonewalls but then we're in September and the polls have Cruz 15 points down to Hillary with the Senate looking like a 10-seat pick-up for the Dems?

Does the GOP do a 180 and confirm?

Does Obama withdraw the nomination in preference to Hillary putting up a Douglas?
Another interesting question is if there are any backroom deals made with potential nominees. It's fairly certain that the nominee won't even get considered, and if there are hearings, every possible piece of dirty laundry will get brought up. If I were a potential nominee, I'd like assurance if my nomination is never acted upon, that my nomination wouldn't get withdrawn or that I'd be re-nominated. That would require backroom negotiating between Obama and the Clinton and Sanders camps and would open up the possibility that Clinton or Sanders or both would have a say in who gets nominated.

Kinda far-fetched, because I don't think Obama would want to bargain (particularly with Sanders, but I wouldn't think discussions with Clinton would be so much of a stretch), the nominee isn't in a particularly strong negotiating position, and might not want to risk being passed over. This is, literally, the job of a lifetime for a jurist, and Obama could just say, “No deals, there are lots of other candidates.”
 
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Yeah, I don't see the nominee having any leverage, nor to be honest really thinking in those terms. A SCOTUS nomination is a bolt from the blue, and typically* it is bestowed on someone with zero political clout.

* There have been exceptions, of course. Taft being the most obvious, but also Warren, and Salmon P. Chase who had a fascinating career:

Senator, Ohio, 1849–1855, 1861
Governor of Ohio, 1856-1860
Candidate for President, 1860 Republican National Convention
Secretary of the Treasury, 1861-1864
Candidate for President, 1868 Democratic National Convention
Chief Justice of the United States, 1864-1873

Holy crap!
 
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Yeah, I don't see the nominee having any leverage, nor to be honest really thinking in those terms. A SCOTUS nomination is a bolt from the blue, and typically* it is bestowed on someone with zero political clout.

* There have been exceptions, of course. Taft being the most obvious, but also Warren, and Salmon P. Chase who had a fascinating career:

Senator, Ohio, 1849–1855, 1861
Governor of Ohio, 1856-1860
Candidate for President, 1860 Republican National Convention
Secretary of the Treasury, 1861-1864
Chief Justice of the United States, 1864-1873

Holy crap!


Almost as impressive as 41
 
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and Salmon P. Chase who had a fascinating career:

Senator, Ohio, 1849–1855, 1861
Governor of Ohio, 1856-1860
Candidate for President, 1860 Republican National Convention
Secretary of the Treasury, 1861-1864
Candidate for President, 1868 Democratic National Convention
Chief Justice of the United States, 1864-1873

Holy crap!
You missed the most interesting thing about Chase. He was on the $10,000 bill, the largest denomination ever circulated for public commerce in the U.S., and of course the subject of the famous Binion Million Dollar Display at Binion's Horseshoe Las Vegas Casino.

Link

Saw a story once where Binion's bills periodically show up in a bank deposit, even though on the open market they can be sold for many times their face value to collectors.
 
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Things get interesting if the polls start going in the toilet for the GOP. What happens if Obama nominates a Souter and the GOP stonewalls but then we're in September and the polls have Cruz 15 points down to Hillary with the Senate looking like a 10-seat pick-up for the Dems?

Does the GOP do a 180 and confirm?

Does Obama withdraw the nomination in preference to Hillary putting up a Douglas?

Forget about Hillary-Bernie for a minute. What if, God forbid, Trump emerges as the frontrunner in Oct lets say. Do you really want Trump choosing the next SCOTUS??? I wonder if the Senate Dems go to Obama and say give us somebody quasi-moderate so we don't have to deal with a Sarah Palin nomination come January. :eek: :eek: :eek:

PS - I don't know what Salmon Chase did to Doris Kearns Goodwin, but he got hammered in Team of Rivals IIRC. In that book he got put on the SCOTUS to get him out of the way!
 
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What if, God forbid, Trump emerges as the frontrunner in Oct lets say. Do you really want Trump choosing the next SCOTUS??? I wonder if the Senate Dems go to Obama and say give us somebody quasi-moderate so we don't have to deal with a Sarah Palin nomination come January. :eek: :eek: :eek:

I can't see the GOP budging in any case. If Trump nominates the wrong kind of nutter they just vote them down and preen about their "independence." OTOH, if Trumps sends them Scalia with a grade school education, they use the nuke option to confirm. They can't lose.

This is starting to look like the biggest game of poker the US government has ever been involved in.
 
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I can't see the GOP budging in any case. If Trump nominates the wrong kind of nutter they just vote them down and preen about their "independence." OTOH, if Trumps sends them Scalia with a grade school education, they use the nuke option to confirm. They can't lose.

This is starting to look like the biggest game of poker the US government has ever been involved in.

Do you want to be the Senator who votes against a Trump nominee? :eek:
 
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We get the Government we deserve. And right now we deserve Trump.
 
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