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Campaign 2016 Part XXI: Do you love farce? My fault, I fear.
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Re: Campaign 2016 Part XXI: Do you love farce? My fault, I fear.
You and Dillo have just been listening to too much right wing radio for the past 20 years.
You and Dillo have just been listening to too much right wing radio for the past 20 years.
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XXI: Do you love farce? My fault, I fear.
I don't listen to right wing radio. Or any talk radio, really. CNN is about my only non-internet newsfeed. And they are a joke overall. My news feeds come from links posted in threads like these. Maybe a dose from the Star Diaper (Star Tribune, for non-locals).
I don't listen to right wing radio. Or any talk radio, really. CNN is about my only non-internet newsfeed. And they are a joke overall. My news feeds come from links posted in threads like these. Maybe a dose from the Star Diaper (Star Tribune, for non-locals).
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XXI: Do you love farce? My fault, I fear.
If KFAN and 93X counts as "right wing radio," then sure.
If KFAN and 93X counts as "right wing radio," then sure.
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XXI: Do you love farce? My fault, I fear.
This election, if anything, exposed EVERYONE on their basic beliefs, whether it be political, racial, economic, etc. It's a step back, but maybe that was needed to take 2 steps forward. It's a horrible thought that it took something like this to advance, and it may backfire, but I really do hope we all learn, and can recover and move forward, and evolve.
This election, if anything, exposed EVERYONE on their basic beliefs, whether it be political, racial, economic, etc. It's a step back, but maybe that was needed to take 2 steps forward. It's a horrible thought that it took something like this to advance, and it may backfire, but I really do hope we all learn, and can recover and move forward, and evolve.
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Re: Campaign 2016 Part XXI: Do you love farce? My fault, I fear.
I doubt it is most...your anecdote may fly in Minnesota but in the southern states he is winning I would bet you arent close to correct. (obviously cant prove it)
And even if your friends dont agree with his rhetoric, voting for him is at worst tacit approval of his message. It isnt like his platform isnt a known thing if you are voting for him you are voting for the things he stands for.
I doubt it is most...your anecdote may fly in Minnesota but in the southern states he is winning I would bet you arent close to correct. (obviously cant prove it)
And even if your friends dont agree with his rhetoric, voting for him is at worst tacit approval of his message. It isnt like his platform isnt a known thing if you are voting for him you are voting for the things he stands for.
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XXI: Do you love farce? My fault, I fear.
Minor quibble (is that a word? It is now). It's not voting for what he stands for, it's voting against for what Hillary stands for, using the binary election argument.
*Still not voting, for Trump, nor for Hillary, nor for some lost cause.
Minor quibble (is that a word? It is now). It's not voting for what he stands for, it's voting against for what Hillary stands for, using the binary election argument.
*Still not voting, for Trump, nor for Hillary, nor for some lost cause.
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XXI: Do you love farce? My fault, I fear.
This. I've been yelled at by both sides for my stance. "If you don't vote for Trump, you're voting for Hillary!" "If you don't vote for Hillary, you're voting for Trump!"
Well, I'm not voting for either of them, so by this logic, I'm voting for both. Everybody wins!
This. I've been yelled at by both sides for my stance. "If you don't vote for Trump, you're voting for Hillary!" "If you don't vote for Hillary, you're voting for Trump!"
Well, I'm not voting for either of them, so by this logic, I'm voting for both. Everybody wins!
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XXI: Do you love farce? My fault, I fear.
I'm guessing you were somewhat entertained.
Well now. That was all pretty interesting.
Anyone see the bit on Last Week with the guy on CSPAN fielding calls from every character from Deliverence?
I'm guessing you were somewhat entertained.
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Re: Campaign 2016 Part XXI: Do you love farce? My fault, I fear.
No sorry that doesnt work. It is a lame cop out. First of all no election is a binary so that whole excuse is a joke. They could choose not to vote, or vote for Johnson or hell write in friend for all it will likely matter. (assuming they live in Minnesota) There are ways to vote NotHillary without voting Trump and just because they refuse to see that doesnt make it any less true. (facts and all)
And again, even accepting that they cannot vote for someone and then say they dont support said person. A vote is just that, approval of that person. It doesnt matter their reason that is just how it goes. If they dont like his message that is great, but guess what if he wins that message they hate doesnt just go away. Not to go all Godwin on the bit but not all members of the Nazi Party were uber racist genocidal murders...plenty of them were just people that were sick of the way Germany was being treated and wanted the country great again. They had no real ill will towards Jews and the rest of the undesirables...they just couldnt support the old regime and went with what they thought was better...even if they didnt support everything it stood for. That doesnt make them any better.
I said it before I feel for many supporters of the GOP. The true small "c" conservatives have been left out in the cold and their candidate is about as far away from what they want as they can get. (I got plenty of friends I hear rant about this) But I am not going to pretend that just because they dont like what Trump stands for that gives them a pass when they vote for him. (no conservative I know ever even considered it) You vote for him he is your candidate...period end of story. There is literally no other way to define it. They can try and justify it but ultimately it changes nothing. Just like if Minnesota comes into play (hehe thank god that never happened though I bet Scooby still believes it could
) despite my dislike of Hillary I would vote for her and that would define me until such time as I can vote against her.
I am sorry but there is no way to have it both ways when it comes to this...
No sorry that doesnt work. It is a lame cop out. First of all no election is a binary so that whole excuse is a joke. They could choose not to vote, or vote for Johnson or hell write in friend for all it will likely matter. (assuming they live in Minnesota) There are ways to vote NotHillary without voting Trump and just because they refuse to see that doesnt make it any less true. (facts and all)
And again, even accepting that they cannot vote for someone and then say they dont support said person. A vote is just that, approval of that person. It doesnt matter their reason that is just how it goes. If they dont like his message that is great, but guess what if he wins that message they hate doesnt just go away. Not to go all Godwin on the bit but not all members of the Nazi Party were uber racist genocidal murders...plenty of them were just people that were sick of the way Germany was being treated and wanted the country great again. They had no real ill will towards Jews and the rest of the undesirables...they just couldnt support the old regime and went with what they thought was better...even if they didnt support everything it stood for. That doesnt make them any better.
I said it before I feel for many supporters of the GOP. The true small "c" conservatives have been left out in the cold and their candidate is about as far away from what they want as they can get. (I got plenty of friends I hear rant about this) But I am not going to pretend that just because they dont like what Trump stands for that gives them a pass when they vote for him. (no conservative I know ever even considered it) You vote for him he is your candidate...period end of story. There is literally no other way to define it. They can try and justify it but ultimately it changes nothing. Just like if Minnesota comes into play (hehe thank god that never happened though I bet Scooby still believes it could
) despite my dislike of Hillary I would vote for her and that would define me until such time as I can vote against her.I am sorry but there is no way to have it both ways when it comes to this...
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Re: Campaign 2016 Part XXI: Do you love farce? My fault, I fear.
Nah you live in Minnesota our vote doesnt count anyways
Nah you live in Minnesota our vote doesnt count anyways
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XXI: Do you love farce? My fault, I fear.
That's why I mentioned using the binary voting argument. YES, you can use a throwaway vote (3rd party, write in, etc). But as mentioned earlier, the whole "if you don't vote for X, you're voting for Y" argument is in play. So who "gets" a vote if one votes for that 3rd party/write-in? Given the two choices...a lot of people feel trapped.
This election is so f*ed it's sick. I know you can agree on that.
That's why I mentioned using the binary voting argument. YES, you can use a throwaway vote (3rd party, write in, etc). But as mentioned earlier, the whole "if you don't vote for X, you're voting for Y" argument is in play. So who "gets" a vote if one votes for that 3rd party/write-in? Given the two choices...a lot of people feel trapped.
This election is so f*ed it's sick. I know you can agree on that.
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XXI: Do you love farce? My fault, I fear.
God, ain't that the truth...
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XXI: Do you love farce? My fault, I fear.
Putting aside the LIAR, BENGHAZI!! noise for a second, what exactly is it about Hillary that makes her so toxic for people? Her policy positions? A wooden personality may be off-putting, but it can't explain the passion against her. What is she so likely to do as POTUS that makes her so undesirable?
Putting aside the LIAR, BENGHAZI!! noise for a second, what exactly is it about Hillary that makes her so toxic for people? Her policy positions? A wooden personality may be off-putting, but it can't explain the passion against her. What is she so likely to do as POTUS that makes her so undesirable?
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XXI: Do you love farce? My fault, I fear.
I'm still wondering why people hate Hillary Clinton so much.
Other than accusations that have never stood up anywhere- what's the issue? Seriously- do Republicans have THAT BAD of lawyers??? With so many investigations and accusations, you'd think something would actually stick. Many of the investigations were very biased, largely driven by Republicans. And yet nothing.
I don't see any of her policies as something to hate over. And given her background, it's pretty easy to note that she's more qualified now than President Obama was 8 years ago. (and last time I checked, we still have a country, not one that is in tatters and ruins- people are still spending a lot of money on stuff).
In opposition, we have a guy who is basically telling us that half our population is ripe for abuse- either verbally for looks or physically for looks; and that one religion is worse than the rest; and that we have to isolate ourselves from the rest of the world; and make friends with people who just want to kill other people; who's tax policy adds up to a big tax break for him and others like him- which will either skyrocket the debt (much like the previous R administrations going back to Nixon) and/or suck the life out of people we really need to be spending money on stuff.
Who cares if her personality isn't approachable. Big deal.
I'm still wondering why people hate Hillary Clinton so much.
Other than accusations that have never stood up anywhere- what's the issue? Seriously- do Republicans have THAT BAD of lawyers??? With so many investigations and accusations, you'd think something would actually stick. Many of the investigations were very biased, largely driven by Republicans. And yet nothing.
I don't see any of her policies as something to hate over. And given her background, it's pretty easy to note that she's more qualified now than President Obama was 8 years ago. (and last time I checked, we still have a country, not one that is in tatters and ruins- people are still spending a lot of money on stuff).
In opposition, we have a guy who is basically telling us that half our population is ripe for abuse- either verbally for looks or physically for looks; and that one religion is worse than the rest; and that we have to isolate ourselves from the rest of the world; and make friends with people who just want to kill other people; who's tax policy adds up to a big tax break for him and others like him- which will either skyrocket the debt (much like the previous R administrations going back to Nixon) and/or suck the life out of people we really need to be spending money on stuff.
Who cares if her personality isn't approachable. Big deal.
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XXI: Do you love farce? My fault, I fear.
Only for those of you who's candidate is a total POS. Many of us are just fine.
90% of the ones who are trapped are R's who can't stand trump. The other 10% are D's who buy into the hate of Clinton.
Only for those of you who's candidate is a total POS. Many of us are just fine.
90% of the ones who are trapped are R's who can't stand trump. The other 10% are D's who buy into the hate of Clinton.
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XXI: Do you love farce? My fault, I fear.
All right, who did it? Who did it!?
http://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/world/...0?hootPostID=c028efb294f8256120a54e4538a4619a
Pulver?
Roberts!!
All right, who did it? Who did it!?
http://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/world/...0?hootPostID=c028efb294f8256120a54e4538a4619a
Pulver?
Roberts!!
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Re: Campaign 2016 Part XXI: Do you love farce? My fault, I fear.
A lot of people don't even know why they hate her. It's been driven into us for so long that it's a Pavlovian response for many.
I have zero qualms voting for Hilary as she's qualified and is center-left, much like me.
She'll do some things I don't like or disagree with, but every politician has and my life will go on.
A vote for Hilary is also a vote against Trump and that's an even stronger motivation for me.
A lot of people don't even know why they hate her. It's been driven into us for so long that it's a Pavlovian response for many.
I have zero qualms voting for Hilary as she's qualified and is center-left, much like me.
She'll do some things I don't like or disagree with, but every politician has and my life will go on.
A vote for Hilary is also a vote against Trump and that's an even stronger motivation for me.
Handyman
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Re: Campaign 2016 Part XXI: Do you love farce? My fault, I fear.
Well Wikileaks tells us he isnt dead...but if he is my guess is The Russians are closing up ranks. What little chance they had of screwing up the election died with Julian's arrogance. If he had not been bragging about his (lame) October Surprise since August it might have had more impact and perhaps the Drumpf leaks happen at a different time.
Well Wikileaks tells us he isnt dead...but if he is my guess is The Russians are closing up ranks. What little chance they had of screwing up the election died with Julian's arrogance. If he had not been bragging about his (lame) October Surprise since August it might have had more impact and perhaps the Drumpf leaks happen at a different time.
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