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Campaign 2016 Part XX: Clowns to the left of me, Jokers to the right.

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Handyman said:
Clinton went from 60/40 to 80/20 because he winged it. He lost all support from the middle and the Republicans are fleeing in droves. I mean sure he is still holding support but he is not going to win by winging it.
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A lot of bigots out there! :eek: Trump in fact was never "almost even" as some simpletons in the media (and elsewhere ;)) have implied. He only got close in some polls which overweighed his supporters - older uneducated white males. As more of the population gets engaged in the race, the more Trump sinks because he only appeals to one core demographic.

Good article about the GOP:

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/10/how-to-rebuild-the-republican-party/503282/
 
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Handyman said:
In other news: ITS RIGGED!!!
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I love Samantha Bee. So, I have to think that these people that are interviewed by her people, or The Daily Show, etc. don't watch those shows?? I can't believe they allow themselves to look so ridiculous on camera.
 
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Rover said:
A lot of bigots out there! :eek: Trump in fact was never "almost even" as some simpletons in the media (and elsewhere ;)) have implied
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Those "simpletons" include the 538 models which had him at 48%.

Don't be the Democratic FreshFish. Let those guys be the "faith-based" party. We're the reality-based party. We don't need a USCHO spin room.
 
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Rover said:
More on the people voting for Trump:

http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a49343/fired-for-racist-joke/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...r-racist-facebook-posts-about-michelle-obama/
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I'm not surprised that these attitudes still persist and even got a boost with the GOP enabling them the last 8 years. The Brain Functional put them in the rear view mirror in the mid 60s, so figure 60 years for people who were in their 20s then and already infected to die, plus another 20 for their kids who had the infection passed on to them to die off. That puts racism in a coffin no earlier than 2050.

By the same math, the phobes were permanently thrown onto the ash heap of history in this decade, but our grandkids won't see the last of them shrivel and die in the pestilent corners of the country (always the same ones as it turns out; go figure) until around 2100.

But America works! It takes a century to fumigate the cesspools, but a century is nothing. There are places in the world where the Hill People and the Valley People have been going at it with rocks, knives and axes for millennia. I am proud to be an American, even if it's frustrating from day to day.
 
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Kepler said:
Those "simpletons" include the 538 models which had him at 48%.

Don't be the Democratic FreshFish. Let those guys be the "faith-based" party. We're the reality-based party. We don't need a USCHO spin room.
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Are you STILL doing the nervous Nellie routine Kep? Even Scooby threw in the towel. 538 is bound by public polls. If the public polls are overestimating old white guy participation (something one of the better pollsters even said publically) then Nate can only take what's been given to him. So, the simpletons comment stands!

Stop being afraid of winning already. :rolleyes: It does nothing for you. I'm a Red Sox fan. I get it.
 
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Rover said:
Are you STILL doing the nervous Nellie routine Kep? Even Scooby threw in the towel. 538 is bound by public polls. If the public polls are overestimating old white guy participation (something one of the better pollsters even said publically) then Nate can only take what's been given to him. So, the simpletons comment stands!

Stop being afraid of winning already. :rolleyes: It does nothing for you. I'm a Red Sox fan. I get it.
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It ain't over yet. He wins the second debate and he's right back in the mix. Second debate has been huge in many recent elections. And remember, we know Hillary will crush him with facts. It's style over substance. Her best bet is to be polite, quite, and concise. Let him go off the rails.
 
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Rover said:
Are you STILL doing the nervous Nellie routine Kep? Even Scooby threw in the towel. 538 is bound by public polls. If the public polls are overestimating old white guy participation (something one of the better pollsters even said publically) then Nate can only take what's been given to him. So, the simpletons comment stands!

Stop being afraid of winning already. :rolleyes: It does nothing for you. I'm a Red Sox fan. I get it.
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You mistake wisdom for fear. You and Donald should get a room. :p
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
It ain't over yet. He wins the second debate and he's right back in the mix. Second debate has been huge in many recent elections. And remember, we know Hillary will crush him with facts. It's style over substance. Her best bet is to be polite, quite, and concise. Let him go off the rails.
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I want her to be positive and talk about the America she believes in. Voters like candidates who see the good in America (Reagan, Bill Clinton, Obama). Let Trump do his drunkard's walk through gloom and doom and fear-mongering and narcissism. Let him keep driving his own supporters into Undecided, and then give them a reason to come to her.
 
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Trump is selling nostalgia like every other GOP candidate. However, he's smarter than Reagan or both Bushes in what he's going to deliver. In fact, he's already done it.

Previous Goopers would run around telling you they were going to roll back Civil Rights, Gay Rights, and Abortion Rights either via legislation or court order. If you were some Jerry Falwell loving loon, looking back over the last 30 years, has ANYTHING gone your way? Not much unless you're a gun nut as well.

But, what Trump is delivering on is a return to a time when you could tell gay jokes, drop the n word, and use racial and ethnic slurs. I don't know when people stopped doing that in polite company (probably the 90's) but for this supporters its made a triumphant return particularly on social media. You have to feel real empowered to send out Obama-gorilla jokes electronically to the world. Even after he gets his @ ss kicked Trump will always be a hero to these people.
 
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Rover said:
Trump is selling nostalgia like every other GOP candidate. However, he's smarter than Reagan or both Bushes in what he's going to deliver. In fact, he's already done it.

Previous Goopers would run around telling you they were going to roll back Civil Rights, Gay Rights, and Abortion Rights either via legislation or court order. If you were some Jerry Falwell loving loon, looking back over the last 30 years, has ANYTHING gone your way? Not much unless you're a gun nut as well.

But, what Trump is delivering on is a return to a time when you could tell gay jokes, drop the n word, and use racial and ethnic slurs. I don't know when people stopped doing that in polite company (probably the 90's) but for this supporters its made a triumphant return particularly on social media. You have to feel real empowered to send out Obama-gorilla jokes electronically to the world. Even after he gets his @ ss kicked Trump will always be a hero to these people.
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That's actually a pretty good point.
 
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joecct said:
tD and the Molotov cocktail

https://www.firstthings.com/web-exclusives/2016/10/never-waste-a-crisis
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That is a very, very good piece. There are so many "quoted for truth" statements.

As John Milbank and Adrian Pabst put it in their new book The Politics of Virtue, contemporary political culture is the product of a convergence of two strains of liberalism: a leftist cultural libertarianism that took off during the 1960s and 1970s, and a rightwing free-market liberalism that reached its apogee with the Reagan-Thatcher alliance.

It was the genius of Bill Clinton to weave the two liberalisms into one. A “New Democrat” is as relentlessly globalist as she is fanatically pro-choice and pro-LGBT. Whether Clinton recognized it or not, he hit on a coherent public philosophy. Though they come from opposite ends of the political spectrum, both strains of liberalism are founded on a concept of freedom as the emancipation of individual choice.
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"Liberalism" here is used the way the Brits and Euros use it: the political project distinct from the old guard reaction that defined the political consensus during the Concert of Europe.
 
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If you're in the GOP, when you've lost the WSJ it's time to hang em up.

Can you imagine how all those guys are going to go after him on 11/9? The months of toadying and lickspittling (wd ch?) have wound the RWNJ press so tight it's going to look like this.
 
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The GOP summarized by one action.

Gov. Pat McCrory has let become law without his signature a bill transferring money from a disaster-relief fund to pay to defend the state against lawsuits over HB2.

The bill was part of the annual “technical corrections” legislation cleaning up budget-related matters. It ran 12 pages and included dozens of provisions.

“The governor would have preferred that the money come from the Attorney General’s budget since that’s who is refusing to do his job,” the governor’s spokesman Josh Ellis said when asked why McCrory didn’t sign the bill.

Attorney General Roy Cooper has said he would not defend the constitutionality of the bill. Republican leaders have criticized him for taking that position.

One provision moved $500,000 from the state’s Emergency Response and Disaster Relief Fund for the current fiscal year into a fund controlled by the governor to be used for costs arising from litigation over HB2.
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Kepler said:
If you're in the GOP, when you've lost the WSJ it's time to hang em up.

Can you imagine how all those guys are going to go after him on 11/9? The months of toadying and lickspittling (wd ch?) have wound the RWNJ press so tight it's going to look like this.
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Wall Street is not a fan of tD. They own HRC. Anything they can do to ensure that their "girl" will be sitting in the big chair and will ensure the status quo is their mission.
 
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