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Campaign 2016 Part XX: Clowns to the left of me, Jokers to the right.

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Re: Campaign 2016 Part XX: Clowns to the left of me, Jokers to the right.

Both can be wrong, the adulterer and the slut-shamer.

But once again, who is more wrong in the context of adultery? Trump (or Bill) cheating on his spouse or Hillary (or Ivana) being cheated on?

Stay down.
 
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Hitler vs. Jesus would split an American election with each side getting 40% and the remaining 20% actually deciding the outcome. You know this. Why do you **** your pants like this every other day?

Cause I'm in denial that I live in that kind of nation. In 1980 the nation wasn't like this.
 
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XX: Clowns to the left of me, Jokers to the right.

But once again, who is more wrong in the context of adultery? Trump (or Bill) cheating on his spouse or Hillary (or Ivana) being cheated on?

Stay down.

I thought adultery was no big deal in today's society. It happens. Right?
We're a post-hegemony, post-religious dogma, enlightened society. Right?

But destroying someone, personally, professionally, for no big deal ... is no big deal?
 
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XX: Clowns to the left of me, Jokers to the right.

No it wont...there is zero chance the Unions flip to Donald over this. (unless they had previous to this)

The unions obviously don't trust Trump, they know his record. He's a cartoon version of Villain Capital. But they might use what leverage they can get from him to squeeze Hillary's nuts over TPP.
 
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And sadly Rover is right...because of the way the media has played this Hillary was the only one who could have won. They would have ignored the great things Biden has done and focus on his gaffs, and no one else could handle Drumpf and his BS as well as Hillary has.

Biden was the best choice though from a candidate standpoint. Hillary was the best "Anti-Drumpfer".

Its a cold reality but one that people need to wake up to. Even the most anti-Hillary lefty has to admit, she's the only person that could have saved us from a Trump Presidency. :eek: He's gotten that close, and against anybody else the Dems could have realistically put up there he most likely would have prevailed. The irony of Trump's candidacy is that he's facing the one person who's dealt with all of his tactics for the last 25 years, so while they may have overwhelmed a wimpy media or a not ready for big leagues GOP primary, none of this is surprising to her.
 
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XX: Clowns to the left of me, Jokers to the right.

I thought adultery was no big deal in today's society. It happens. Right?
We're a post-hegemony, post-religious dogma, enlightened society. Right?

But destroying someone, personally, professionally, for no big deal ... is no big deal?
Look, only the most naive would believe that a) Hillary did not know about the Clinton insiders' plans with respect to Flowers, or b) that she didn't approve of it.

The beauty of this election, which Clinton will certainly win, is we're going to get a chance to see this in action again. Bill Clinton, sitting around with literally nothing to do, and no ability to do anything because of his wife's job?!?! No one personifies "idle hands are the devil's workshop" more than Bill Clinton.

Sooner or later voters on the left will realize how much they are getting played, just as those on the right have realized.
 
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XX: Clowns to the left of me, Jokers to the right.

I thought adultery was no big deal in today's society. It happens. Right?
We're a post-hegemony, post-religious dogma, enlightened society. Right?

But destroying someone, personally, professionally, for no big deal ... is no big deal?

Tell that to your wife! :D

But in all seriousness I don't blame Hillary. Too many people were getting too much money in the form of book deals and whatever from right wing organizations to launch baseless accusations. Hell one billionaire (Scythe maybe?) ran a whole project backed with big bucks to dig up allegations, truthful or not. The strange irony is the one person who was proven to have an affair with him (Lewinksy) to my knowledge never tried to cash in or take money from knuckledraggers.
 
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XX: Clowns to the left of me, Jokers to the right.

The strange irony is the one person who was proven to have an affair with him (Lewinksy) to my knowledge never tried to cash in or take money from knuckledraggers.

Two. Gennifer Flowers.
 
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XX: Clowns to the left of me, Jokers to the right.

Two. Gennifer Flowers.

Flowers tried to cash in for money. Otherwise why would you bring up a one night stand from like 15 years earlier. That's what I'm saying about $$$$ floating around. Somebody writes a story that Sic's been getting weird with the cattle over in the Dakotas. But it also comes out the author of the book got a 500K advance to write that. Well, my personal view of you aside ;) , I'd be a bit skeptical of an accusation that had that kind of a payoff behind it.
 
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XX: Clowns to the left of me, Jokers to the right.

Not looking good for Mr. Trump...

Pennsylvania: Clinton 47%, Trump 38%, Johnson 5% (Franklin & Marshall)

Nevada: Clinton 44%, Trump 41%, Johnson 8% (Hart Research)

North Carolina: Clinton 45%, Trump 39%, Johnson 9% (Elon)
 
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XX: Clowns to the left of me, Jokers to the right.

Flowers tried to cash in for money.

In a deposition in January 1998, while denying Kathleen Willey's sexual accusations against him, Clinton admitted that he had a sexual encounter with Flowers. In his 2004 autobiography My Life, (Bill) Clinton acknowledged testifying under oath that he had a sexual encounter with Flowers.*

So it wasn't Flowers making stuff up, but she did get paid.


* Clines, Francis X. "TESTING OF A PRESIDENT: THE ACCUSER; JONES LAWYERS ISSUE FILES ALLEGING CLINTON PATTERN OF HARASSMENT OF WOMEN". The New York Times. Retrieved March 20, 2008.
 
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Re: Campaign 2016 Part XX: Clowns to the left of me, Jokers to the right.

Tell that to your wife! :D

But in all seriousness I don't blame Hillary. Too many people were getting too much money in the form of book deals and whatever from right wing organizations to launch baseless accusations. Hell one billionaire (Scythe maybe?) ran a whole project backed with big bucks to dig up allegations, truthful or not. The strange irony is the one person who was proven to have an affair with him (Lewinksy) to my knowledge never tried to cash in or take money from knuckledraggers.

convenient of you to separate 'affair' from 'rape' :)
 
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XX: Clowns to the left of me, Jokers to the right.

LOL. Remember the scene in "The Producers" (Wilder-Mostel version) after the assassination attempt?

"They try. Oh how they try." :p :rolleyes:

What's so funny about that audio is that it could just as easily help her with Sanders supporters (Sanders himself would seem to agree).
 
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XX: Clowns to the left of me, Jokers to the right.

convenient of you to separate 'affair' from 'rape' :)

Hey if we can just make up stuff I've got a ton of material to throw your way. Half of it will probably end up being true!

Sic, yes I recall that he admitted banging her back in the 70's sometime. IIRC she was trying to embellish some of it in order to sell her story. My point stands about the payoffs though.
 
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XX: Clowns to the left of me, Jokers to the right.

I thought adultery was no big deal in today's society. It happens. Right?
We're a post-hegemony, post-religious dogma, enlightened society. Right?

But destroying someone, personally, professionally, for no big deal ... is no big deal?

Personally, I've never thought Trump's divorces or affairs were that big of a deal.* There are 1000 other more legitimate reasons that should disqualify him. I think what rankles most people is the utter hypocrisy of him holding others to a much higher standard than he does for himself.



*Though I must admit, I make a special exception for Newt shoving divorce papers in the face of his high school math teacher the day after cancer surgery.
 
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XX: Clowns to the left of me, Jokers to the right.

Hitler vs. Jesus would split an American election with each side getting 40% and the remaining 20% actually deciding the outcome.
Personally, I don't think either Hitler or Jesus could garner much more than 10% today, and most of that based purely on charisma.
 
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