What's new
USCHO Fan Forum

This is a sample guest message. Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!

  • The USCHO Fan Forum has migrated to a new plaform, xenForo. Most of the function of the forum should work in familiar ways. Please note that you can switch between light and dark modes by clicking on the gear icon in the upper right of the main menu bar. We are hoping that this new platform will prove to be faster and more reliable. Please feel free to explore its features.

Campaign 2016 Part XVII: If debates are great theater, I think this one closes early

Status
Not open for further replies.
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XVII: If debates are great theater, I think this one closes e

Making jokes /= truly believing what the joke says.

Exactly.

And behind this somewhere is why Seinfeld, et al, have stopped doing campus shows.


And Handy, in C# it is != for not equal. ;)
 
Last edited:
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XVII: If debates are great theater, I think this one closes e

Exactly.

And behind this somewhere is why Seinfeld, et al, have stopped doing campus shows.

1. Seinfeld never did campus shows in the first place. 2. His whole whiny rant was because he told some painfully unfunny hacky jokes and then his wittle feewings got hurt when people told him they weren't funny and adding the word 'gay' to something doesn't make it a punch line.

But again, look up some of the 'irreverent jokes' directed at Leslie Jones for being in a movie about ghosts.
 
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XVII: If debates are great theater, I think this one closes e

This is completely unrelated to the subject at hand which was the legitimacy or lack thereof for feeling unsafe as it relates to 9/11. And anyone obtuse enough to extrapolate those fears at the concept of Hillary becoming POTUS while supposedly on her deathbed just speaks perfectly to the "I will sell my soul to make any argument I can trying to authenticate the candidacy Donald Trump".

Case in point my response to burd:



"I could shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose any voters ..."
-Donald Trump

It's a sick, cruel effing joke.

It is related. As Handy said, it's a matter of "feeling" safe and actually "being" safe. The illusion of a security blanket, if you will.
 
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XVII: If debates are great theater, I think this one closes e

It is amazing to me how we have now equated the appearance of impropriety (Clinton Foundation) with actual criminal behavior (Trump University). Those are considered equals in the media and apparently with the voters.

I'm guessing it stems from the last 50 years of private sector reverence and public sector demonization.

If we get Trump we get exactly what we deserve.
 
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XVII: If debates are great theater, I think this one closes e

And behind this somewhere is why Seinfeld, et al, have stopped doing campus shows.

ETA: You need the triple parentheses around Jerry's name if you want to fit in with your new, irreverent buddies.
 
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XVII: If debates are great theater, I think this one closes e

It is amazing to me how we have now equated the appearance of impropriety (Clinton Foundation) with actual criminal behavior (Trump University). Those are considered equals in the media and apparently with the voters.

I'm guessing it stems from the last 50 years of private sector reverence and public sector demonization.

If we get Trump we get exactly what we deserve.

That is true, but our children and people in other countries do not.
 
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XVII: If debates are great theater, I think this one closes e

The election boils down to this: Trump is either a fascist or a clown pretending to be a fascist.

Both are unacceptable. Therefore, my vote* is !Trump.

Hillary is the only credible !Trump. Therefore, my vote is Hillary. EOF

* Presented with C++ notation for The Sicatoka. * is not the unary dereferencing operand because it appears at the end of the word.
 
Last edited:
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XVII: If debates are great theater, I think this one closes e

I havent read the article yet but if that is the way they frame it I never will.

Ok... I posted it because it's a well written article that does little to promote a point of view but rather attempts to explain the so called alt right's beginnings and ideas, and comments on who various groups are that may be attracted to some of those ideas and why. The purpose is informative not an endorsement.


To me it was quite interesting, but I read it to learn something rather than confirm reasons why I might hate these people. A question it raises in my mind is if Pepe the Frog isn't becoming the new Dean Moriarty, and devotees, the "Dirty Hippies" of this generation. Perhaps it's true that the reactionary beginnings and ensuing cultural reaction to them aren't dissimilar.
 
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XVII: If debates are great theater, I think this one closes e

Surprised to see this tweet:
Dr. Jill Stein ‏@DrJillStein Sep 11
Clinton thinks racists, misogynists & homophobes are a #BasketOfDeplorables - except when they donate to Clintons.
The rest of you are surprised I follow Jill Stein. ;)

Kep: I jumped from C to C#; never was a big C++ fan. I miss dereferencing function pointers, *(*myFunct)(args). Now I'm left with delegates. < sigh >
 
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XVII: If debates are great theater, I think this one closes e

A question it raises in my mind is if Pepe the Frog isn't becoming the new Dean Moriarty, and devotees, the "Dirty Hippies" of this generation. Perhaps it's true that the reactionary beginnings and ensuing cultural reaction to them aren't dissimilar.

"Peace and love" vs. "I will steal your private information and post it on the internet because you're an ape and only white men should be allowed to fight pretend ghosts"
 
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XVII: If debates are great theater, I think this one closes e

With the recent "deplorable" comments and the remarks about just how many of the Trumpsters are actually mad racists, and because I think it's always a good idea to try to understand where other people are coming from, I thought it might be of interest to some to read this rather long, but fairly well written article by Allum Bokhari & (the infamous) Milo Yiannopoulous that attempts to explain who the alt right are and what they think. I myself looked it up after seeing Milo on CNBC the other day: An Establishment Conservative's Guide to the Alt Right

So I read it. Here is the short version: a bunch of "look at me, I'm clever" college kids latched on to some of the language and memes that have been running around the blogosphere for more than a decade and adapted them to their puerile misreadings of the writers of cultural and political coffee table books they have never read.

If any of these guys had actually put in the work to plow through, say, Decline of the West, they would have quickly jettisoned not just their Pygmy socio-political adolescence, but most of their self-satisfied affect. The first causality of a good education is certainty. But far easier to name drop a few titles picked up while reading Andrew Sullivan (before he went all super queer) or John Riley (before he died) and bask in the reflected legitimacy.

The way the authors elide the immaturity and gross misogyny of the Sad Puppies and Gamergate -- two groups I know a little about -- makes me suspect they are also providing cover for a lot of creeps in other nether regions of the web which I don't know about.

These folks construct a paper thin self-image of intellectual depth by throwing around a few quotations and aping the devastatingly off-hand dismissiveness of a Mencken, but at the end of the day they are still only as good as their causes, and they align behind (if not among) some truly disgusting fellow travelers who cantankerous Oswald would not have been caught dead with (let alone Francis -- either of them).

The twin theses of the piece are that these people are both creative and intelligent. I see no evidence of either. Instead, they appear to be toddlers let loose on the enormous playground of philosophy, history, and culture which is far more interesting than their lack of experience or imagination allows them to realize. When they glimpse a beautiful object they snatch it up and brandish it as a weapon. They pis-s themselves in public, as toddlers will, and the authors glorify it as studied irony.

I'll pass.
 
Last edited:
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XVII: If debates are great theater, I think this one closes e

Exactly.

And behind this somewhere is why Seinfeld, et al, have stopped doing campus shows.


And Handy, in C# it is != for not equal. ;)

Is that like...a programming slam cause if so I will award you points :p
 
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XVII: If debates are great theater, I think this one closes e

1. Seinfeld never did campus shows in the first place. 2. His whole whiny rant was because he told some painfully unfunny hacky jokes and then his wittle feewings got hurt when people told him they weren't funny and adding the word 'gay' to something doesn't make it a punch line.

But again, look up some of the 'irreverent jokes' directed at Leslie Jones for being in a movie about ghosts.

You can ignore Seinfeld, but Carlin was saying the same thing a decade ago as are plenty of comedians now. College campuses are havens for Whiny White Bourgeois Liberals looking for a cause and someone to rant against.
 
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XVII: If debates are great theater, I think this one closes e

It is related. As Handy said, it's a matter of "feeling" safe and actually "being" safe. The illusion of a security blanket, if you will.

Right but what I said was an indictment of that type of feeling. If people cant tell the difference between the two their opinions are suspect.
 
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XVII: If debates are great theater, I think this one closes e

Ok... I posted it because it's a well written article that does little to promote a point of view but rather attempts to explain the so called alt right's beginnings and ideas, and comments on who various groups are that may be attracted to some of those ideas and why. The purpose is informative not an endorsement.


To me it was quite interesting, but I read it to learn something rather than confirm reasons why I might hate these people. A question it raises in my mind is if Pepe the Frog isn't becoming the new Dean Moriarty, and devotees, the "Dirty Hippies" of this generation. Perhaps it's true that the reactionary beginnings and ensuing cultural reaction to them aren't dissimilar.

That is fine, I am not questioning why you posted it I am saying I wont read it. That kind of pop culture blaming is no better than the people who blame violence of rap music and video games in my mind. YMMV.
 
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XVII: If debates are great theater, I think this one closes e

you can ignore seinfeld, but carlin was saying the same thing a decade ago as are plenty of comedians now. College campuses are havens for whiny white bourgeois liberals looking for a cause and someone to rant against.

PCU was right!
 
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XVII: If debates are great theater, I think this one closes e

So I read it. Here is the short version: a bunch of "look at me, I'm clever" college kids latched on to some of the language and memes that have been running around the blogosphere for more than a decade and adapted them to their puerile misreadings of the writers of cultural and political coffee table books they have never read.

If any of these guys had actually put in the work to plow through, say, Decline of the West, they would have quickly jettisoned not just their Pygmy socio-political adolescence, but most of their self-satisfied affect. The first causality of a good education is certainty. But far easier to name drop a few titles picked up while reading Andrew Sullivan (before he went all super queer) or John Riley (before he died) and bask in the reflected legitimacy.

The way the authors elide the immaturity and gross misogyny of the Sad Puppies and Gamergate -- two groups I know a little about -- makes me suspect they are also providing cover for a lot of creeps in other nether regions of the web which I don't know about.

These folks construct a paper thin self-image of intellectual depth by throwing around a few quotations and aping the devastatingly off-hand dismissiveness of a Mencken, but at the end of the day they are still only as good as their causes, and they align behind (if not among) some truly disgusting fellow travelers who cantankerous Oswald would not have been caught dead with (let alone Francis -- either of them).

The twin theses of the piece are that these people are both creative and intelligent. I see no evidence of either. Instead, they appear to be toddlers let loose on the enormous playground of philosophy, history, and culture which is far more interesting than their lack of experience or imagination allows them to realize. When they glimpse a beautiful object they snatch it up and brandish it as a weapon. They pis-s themselves in public, as toddlers will, and the authors glorify it as studied irony.

I'll pass.


Pretty good stuff there. I wouldn't mind raising a couple of points but sadly I'm on my way to Detroit in 5 minutes so it will have to wait.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top