Campaign 2016 Part XV: Before & After: Dancing in the Streets of Philadelphia!

[Kepler]

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Republican party needs to ditch the faux outrage and back David Duke in his Senate bid. Really, if the dude tones down the anti-Semitism a smidgen tell me how he's any different than most GOP Senate nominees at this point in time?

He has the courage of his convictions?

 

[Kepler]

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So, once again boring ol' Hillary and the Dems are bringing in higher ratings than The Donald Trump Clown Show did last week. How is this possible when Trump was supposed to be a self promoting genius TV mogul who everybody was going to take the time to watch?

http://money.cnn.com/2016/07/28/media/democratic-convention-ratings-day-three/index.html

Gotta admit, this convention has been highly entertaining, which is not what one would have expected. An amazing number of great political speeches: Michelle, Bill, Handsome Joe and Barack. Streep and Silverman had smart celeb slots. The mothers brought the house down. Everyone worked very hard to unify the party.

I don't think anybody even remembers the RNC aside from some plagiarism. It was a complete flop.

 

[Kepler]

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The Germans have it figured out, anyway.

 

[Rover]

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Gotta admit, this convention has been highly entertaining, which is not what one would have expected. An amazing number of great political speeches: Michelle, Bill, Handsome Joe and Barack. Streep and Silverman had smart celeb slots. The mothers brought the house down. Everyone worked very hard to unify the party.

I don't think anybody even remembers the RNC aside from some plagiarism. It was a complete flop.

Trump is a momentum candidate. "WE'RE WINNING. WE'RE GONNA DO SO MUCH WINNING YOUR WINNER IS GOING TO GET SORE" etc etc. That creates a feedback loop where winning the news cycle even by saying something insane becomes a sign of success, and pollsters try to keep up by forecasting an election where whites reverse 30 years of decline and increase their % of the voting pool.

However, every once in awhile you get a clue to cut through the clutter. Its astounding the car wreck appeal of his candidacy can't outdraw the Dem convention, especially when you consider some Dems are watching just to see the guy make an idiot out of himself. His inability to draw higher ratings vs the Dems or even the Mittens convention 4 years ago is devastating. It shows all he's drawing are the same old Fox News viewers: average age 105.

If he's losing minorities, women, young people, and college educated whites, who the hell's left?

 

[Scarlet]

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If he's losing minorities, women, young people, and college educated whites, who the hell's left?

People like this:

Really....Trump during a press interview jokingly said the he hoped that the Russians could help find the missing deleted 30,000 emails that Hillary said were only personal emails and had nothing of importance on them. Not classified, right? So, what's to worry. If they were actually hacked previously and then somehow were to become available through outsourced means. Still no worry, right? Nothing was on any of the emails.

That was a post from someone with whom I'm friends on Facebook, though to be honest, not for much longer if she keeps spouting this inane crap. I am completely flummoxed how his lemmings have absolutely no issue with what he said yesterday.

 

[Kepler]

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If he's losing minorities, women, young people, and college educated whites, who the hell's left?

InfoWars and Breitbart are all in on Trump. Not sure how Hate Radio is breaking down, but you'd think angry old whites with erectile dysfunction would be a perfect demo.

 

[Transplanted Tiger Fan]

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Gotta admit, this convention has been highly entertaining, which is not what one would have expected. An amazing number of great political speeches: Michelle, Bill, Handsome Joe and Barack. Streep and Silverman had smart celeb slots. The mothers brought the house down. Everyone worked very hard to unify the party.

I don't think anybody even remembers the RNC aside from some plagiarism. It was a complete flop.

Bloomberg's speech was good as well. Directed at the Independent voters, it certainly resonated with me. Biden's speech was a tough act to follow... he hit hard on many points in a brief 12-minutes. Too bad Biden and Bloomberg did not make a run for it, but the whole dynamic of the party would be different if they had, and probably not for the better.

 

[MaizeRage]

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However, every once in awhile you get a clue to cut through the clutter. Its astounding the car wreck appeal of his candidacy can't outdraw the Dem convention, especially when you consider some Dems are watching just to see the guy make an idiot out of himself. His inability to draw higher ratings vs the Dems or even the Mittens convention 4 years ago is devastating. It shows all he's drawing are the same old Fox News viewers: average age 105.

I'm not sure how much it will translate over to Election Day(likely far less than it should, frankly), but the two conventions really highlight the disparity in leadership between the two parties at the moment. The GOP convention did so poorly because the only people they could get to speak were primary losers and Trump's ****ty kids. Ted Cruz isn't appointment viewing for anyone. I wouldn't want to share an elevator ride with most of those people, let alone hear them speak for 15-20 minutes. I'm certainly partial, but if you're a Republican(or "Independent" too, I guess), who spoke that you were really excited to see?

On the other side, I don't think I watched any of the past DNC conventions, but definitely went out of my way to hear both Obamas and Diamond Joe Biden speak, and tuned in to hear Bill speak on the radio and definitely was not disappointed in any of the speeches.

 

[French Rage]

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I'm not sure how much it will translate over to Election Day(likely far less than it should, frankly), but the two conventions really highlight the disparity in leadership between the two parties at the moment. The GOP convention did so poorly because the only people they could get to speak were primary losers and Trump's ****ty kids. Ted Cruz isn't appointment viewing for anyone. I wouldn't want to share an elevator ride with most of those people, let alone hear them speak for 15-20 minutes. I'm certainly partial, but if you're a Republican(or "Independent" too, I guess), who spoke that you were really excited to see?

On the other side, I don't think I watched any of the past DNC conventions, but definitely went out of my way to hear both Obamas and Diamond Joe Biden speak, and tuned in to hear Bill speak on the radio and definitely was not disappointed in any of the speeches.

Pretty much this. Other than Donald's speech itself, is there any speaker there that your average person would tear themselves away from their usual routine for? (Those of us commenting here probably did, but we're all dorky like that.) I mean, is <insert Trump kid> or <insert washed-up D-list celebrity> really that interesting? Is Cruz going to say something you haven't heard before? (Hell, the highlight of his speech is what he didn't say.) And it's not like Pence is memorable or even a rising star; and after five minutes it was easy to tune out of his look-how-cute-I-am-with-my-smirk shtick. All of the accomplished and noteworthy people in the party didn't even attend, so it felt like a lot of people (for example, the freaking head of the Trump Winery) whose sole purpose was to fill time.

 

[SonofSouthie]

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InfoWars and Breitbart are all in on Trump. Not sure how Hate Radio is breaking down, but you'd think angry old whites with erectile dysfunction would be a perfect demo.

but you'd think angry old whites with erectile dysfunction would be a perfect demo

I think young, uneducated whites would also fit in there.

 

[Rover]

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I'm real curious how Murdoch and Fox play this post Ailes. Donald Trump repeatedly humiliated that network more than anybody on either side of the aisle since its existence. He insulted its top talent (Kelly) multiple times with no consequences, and they had to roll over and beg for him to do interview and debates. For a media outlet that prides itself on being a conservative kingmaker, do you really want somebody who openly defied you to win the WH? No, they're going to endorse Hillary but I'm curious how much they prop up Trump down the stretch.

 

[busterman62]

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I'm real curious how Murdoch and Fox play this post Ailes. Donald Trump repeatedly humiliated that network more than anybody on either side of the aisle since its existence. He insulted its top talent (Kelly) multiple times with no consequences, and they had to roll over and beg for him to do interview and debates. For a media outlet that prides itself on being a conservative kingmaker, do you really want somebody who openly defied you to win the WH? No, they're going to endorse Hillary but I'm curious how much they prop up Trump down the stretch.

I assume this is a typo or do you truly believe that Hades will freeze over?

 

[Kepler]

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I think young, uneducated whites would also fit in there.

I hope not. I know little Billy Bob has masculinity issues and wants to earn his alcoholic, unemployed, physically abusive daddy's respect just like the previous 18 generations of his low life family, but LBB also went to school with blacks and browns (or at least did until mommy found out and pulled him out of school and into Krazy Kristian Homeskool) and talks to all sorts of people on social media and has probably boffed a few girls from the other side of the Great Wall of Bigotry, and it's hard to get people to blindly hate once they've played together with the supposed evil target group.

I know the Duggers et al. are churning out double-digit member fundy families like cowboy-hatted Gush Emunim mistaking the River James for the River Jordan, but for the most part poor kids got nothin else to so all day but lay down with other poor kids, and the redneck-black and redneck-brown permutations make Jefferson look like a racial purist. With such contact, tolerance and solidarity come.

 

[SJHovey]

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His inability to draw higher ratings vs the Dems or even the Mittens convention 4 years ago is devastating. It shows all he's drawing are the same old Fox News viewers: average age 105.

Because television ratings for conventions have always been such an accurate predictor of outcomes. http://www.nielsen.com/content/dam/.../08/Conventions-Historic-TV-Ratings-Track.pdf

 

[Kepler]

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they're going to endorse Hillary

That would be suicide. FNC is the 24/7 circle jerk of Trump's prime demographic. Their (lucrative) reason to exist is to validate those people's paranoid fantasies.

 

[Kepler]

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Because television ratings for conventions have always been such an accurate predictor of outcomes. http://www.nielsen.com/content/dam/.../08/Conventions-Historic-TV-Ratings-Track.pdf

Likely even less important this year, since very few people haven't already not just heard of but made up their minds about both nominees.

But I believe Rover was alluding to Trump's boast that he was going to put on an extravaganza whereas, in reality, he put on a 4-day infomercial for conventional antipsychotics so boring the star attraction was Chachi.

 

[Rover]

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I assume this is a typo or do you truly believe that Hades will freeze over?

Yes! should read no, they're not going to endorse Hillary.

 

[Rover]

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Likely even less important this year, since very few people haven't already not just heard of but made up their minds about both nominees.

But I believe Rover was alluding to Trump's boast that he was going to put on an extravaganza whereas, in reality, he put on a 4-day infomercial for conventional antipsychotics so boring the star attraction was Chachi.

I'm alluding to the idea that he's not the game changer electorally that he seems to think he is. Trump more than any candidate I've ever seen relies on media coverage. He has no ground game and he does no advertising. All that leaves is TV (and radio) exposure. Therefore, more than past candidates, its beyond critical he generates big ratings just like any showman. If he can't even do that, he's up sh !t creek without a paddle.

 

[French Rage]

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Morons. http://abc11.com/politics/whoops-nc-gop-shames-kaine-for-flag-pin/1446868/

 

[mookie1995]

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Trump is a momentum candidate......

you is!!!

ain't they all want to max that momentun on a certain tuesday in november