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Campaign 2016 Part XIX: Escape from the Planet of Debates

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The Sicatoka said:
So, Hillary's "Miss Piggy" is a ... , well, no further comment.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1875985/alicia-machado-live-sex-the-farm/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...hado-Clinton-campaigner-fat-shamed-Trump.html

And it wasn't just Trump who "fat shamed" Miss Universe ... it was CNN also.

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainmen...tcmp=ob_article_footer_mobile&intcmp=obinsite
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How does any of this lessen the grossness of what Trump did? Are you going for the "she deserved it" card? :eek:
 
The Sicatoka said:
What are the various deadlines for voter registration? 30 days? At the polls?

I ask because ND is the only state without voter registration.
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As with everything, depends on the state. Some allow registration at the polls. Others have a deadline any where from 2 weeks to a month or more ahead of time.
 
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Kepler said:
How does any of this lessen the grossness of what Trump did? Are you going for the "she deserved it" card? :eek:
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Not in the least, for Trump, or CNN.

My point is, if you're going to hold someone up as a victim, expect the media to dig through their closets.
 
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The Sicatoka said:
Not in the least, for Trump, or CNN.

My point is, if you're going to hold someone up as a victim, expect the media to dig through their closets.
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But as you agree, none of that matters when evaluating Trump. Trump is the one running for president.

And while she is a "victim" in the sense that she had to tolerate this dirtbag's disgusting behavior, what she really is that matters is a witness. A person who treats people the way Trump does should not be entrusted with running the caddy shack, let alone the country. And note Trump never denies any of it, he tries to justify it and in trying he just piles his sexism and idiocy deeper.
 
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The Sicatoka said:
Not in the least, for Trump, or CNN.

My point is, if you're going to hold someone up as a victim, expect the media to dig through their closets.
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And while that is true, this is being discussed because a nominee said it. That trumps (no pun intended) the rest and you know it.
 
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Kepler said:
How does any of this lessen the grossness of what Trump did? Are you going for the "she deserved it" card? :eek:
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I don't think you clicked through. The headline says it all. A woman of age consensually HAD SEX. And if you read even further, she had the audacity to not be ashamed of it. She belongs in prison with Hillary.
 
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XIX: Escape from the Planet of Debates

The Sicatoka said:
So, Hillary's "Miss Piggy" is a ... , well, no further comment.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1875985/alicia-machado-live-sex-the-farm/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...hado-Clinton-campaigner-fat-shamed-Trump.html

And it wasn't just Trump who "fat shamed" Miss Universe ... it was CNN also.

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainmen...tcmp=ob_article_footer_mobile&intcmp=obinsite
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That's right Miss Machado, that's what you get for speaking up about being fat shamed by Donald Trump--slut shaming by the internet.
 
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GrinCDXX said:
That's right Miss Machado, that's what you get for speaking up about being fat shamed by Donald Trump--slut shaming by the internet.
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God Bless America. Land of the free, and home of the brave.
 
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GrinCDXX said:
That's right Miss Machado, that's what you get for speaking up about being fat shamed by Donald Trump--slut shaming by the internet.
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Cmon, though, if there's one thing the Trump campaign will NOT stand for, it's bad behavior on a reality show. Just ask their director of African-American outreach. (Also, "has sex in front of the camera" leaves the whole night-time with grainy night-vision camera under the covers where you don't actually see anything.)
 
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XIX: Escape from the Planet of Debates

The Sicatoka said:
Not in the least, for Trump, or CNN.

My point is, if you're going to hold someone up as a victim, expect the media to dig through their closets.
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Yeah, that was your point, alright.
 
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Kepler said:
This is probably the strongest evidence yet in support of the Rover Hypothesis: that while Trump may be appealing to uneducated whites, there will not be enough of them at the polls to matter. In this case, the evidence suggests that Trump has not inspired an upsurge in registration among uneducated whites. He needs to inject those new voters into the electorate to have a chance as that is literally the only demo among who he will do better than Romney. In all other demos he runs the same as Romney, worse (in the case of blacks), much worse (Latinos) and potentially much, MUCH worse (women).

The Republicans have been going full bore for a decade making it harder to register in order to suppress the votes of Democratic constituencies. Wouldn't it be the ultimate irony if those measures cost Trump the election by suppressing his constituency?
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Its a decent analysis behind the sensationalism but its missing a couple of things. The biggest one is that whites vote in proportion pretty closely to their % of the total population. As in whites made up about 73% of the US population and they made up 72% of the voters in 2012. Blacks actually exceeded their total % (14% of voters vs 13% of population). Hispanics always run lower because its a younger population and/or they're not full citizens. He's basically saying whites need to blow away their participation rate vs their total #'s. Possible, but not sure its probable.

Regarding why certain people don't turn out, I'm guessing in the case of uneducated whites who tend to be an older population you have to look at who's too sick to make it to the voting booth. You would also for election purposes have to consider people living in states that aren't being contested including the two largest states in the nation (CA and TX) where these whities might feel their voters aren't really going to matter. IL, NJ, NY, usually GA also fall into this category.

However, the registration argument is the crux of the whole thing just as the analysis of who was voting in the GOP primary - new voters or general election voters who decided to participate in the primaries. The answer was the latter according to exit polls.
 
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For a guy who says he's not a Trump fan, why does Sicatoka act so much like Trump out here? :confused:
 
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