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Campaign 2016 Part XIV: Just Dropped in (To See What Condition My Convention Was In)

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I don't know if they'd even get that joke.
 
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After the convention will people still tell us how the GOP is not racist, sexist and downright ignorant? If so I hope they dont like when facts prove them wrong :p
 
Handyman said:
After the convention will people still tell us how the GOP is not racist, sexist and downright ignorant? If so I hope they dont like when facts prove them wrong :p
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The 2016 Republican Party: We don't have a fu**ing clue, but we did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night!
 
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aparch said:
The 2016 Republican Party: We don't have a fu**ing clue, but we did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night!
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That is actually a better tagline than anything they actually could come up with :D

Nothing beat though when it came out in 2008 that the band they hired to play the convention after parties was...and I am pretty sure this is true...HOOKERS AND BLOW! :)
 
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Brenthoven said:
I had quite a few liberals at my workplace admire him for his stance after 9-11. I was very, very surprised. I quote, "After last night (the speech he gave), he became MY president." Yup.
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I was kind of one of them in the heat of the moment, but it faded soon after and then he completely pissed it all away when trying to avenge the besmirching of his father.

joecct said:
Lilith. Dems will classify tD as Satan/Lucifer.
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The old, "I know you are but what am I" bit? You've just summed up the current GOP platform.
 
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Brenthoven said:
I had quite a few liberals at my workplace admire him for his stance after 9-11. I was very, very surprised. I quote, "After last night (the speech he gave), he became MY president." Yup.
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That was a great speech. It was a tragedy that they took that moment of national unity and used it to force through a cynical tax cut for themselves and their friends.
 
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Brenthoven said:
I HATE that logic, and the same goes for the "If you don't vote for Hillary, that's a vote for Trump." Idiocy logic, IMO.
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I don't like it as a reason to cast a vote, however it is true that if the election is dominated by two candidates then voting for a third candidate decreases A's count against B by 1 vote. It's not as damaging as actually voting for B, but it is half as a damaging to A.
 
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Kepler said:
I don't like it as a reason to cast a vote, however it is true that if the election is dominated by two candidates then voting for a third candidate decreases A's count against B by 1 vote. It's not as damaging as actually voting for B, but it is half as a damaging to A.
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It does split the vote, but as you said, it's not AS bad. Just depends on that 3rd candidate and which way s/he leans as to which party will be hurt.
 
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Brenthoven said:
It does split the vote, but as you said, it's not AS bad. Just depends on that 3rd candidate and which way s/he leans as to which party will be hurt.
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No. No. No. No. No.

We have a two party system. Bernie Sanders did everything right this cycle. God Bless him. Don't feed the Nader's of the world.
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
No. No. No. No. No.

We have a two party system. Bernie Sanders did everything right this cycle. God Bless him. Don't feed the Nader's of the world.
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??

Bernie did do everything right. He got screwed. Not that I would have voted for him either, but...

Voting third party at this time is harmful to the lesser evil in a two party system. But it will hurt the person that would be your forced second choice, for lack of a better term. In this case, it would be Hillary, IMO.
 
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Kepler said:
I don't like it as a reason to cast a vote, however it is true that if the election is dominated by two candidates then voting for a third candidate decreases A's count against B by 1 vote. It's not as damaging as actually voting for B, but it is half as a damaging to A.
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That is only true under certain circumstances and you (and the people who always attack third party supporters) are completely twisting it...though you only partially. In a non-presidential election you are right that it is "half" but in the presidential election it only matters in swing/close states. If someone in California or New York or Minnesota or Texas decided to vote third party it would not make a difference because the states have been decided before the ballots are cast.

So you are right, but only in about 10-12 states. The equation needs to be tinkered so as not to be intellectually dishonest. It should be an if/ten statement...IF the state is in play THEN a third party vote is half as damaging. (in theory)
 
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Handyman said:
That is only true under certain circumstances and you (and the people who always attack third party supporters) are completely twisting it...though you only partially. In a non-presidential election you are right that it is "half" but in the presidential election it only matters in swing/close states. If someone in California or New York or Minnesota or Texas decided to vote third party it would not make a difference because the states have been decided before the ballots are cast.

So you are right, but only in about 10-12 states. The equation needs to be tinkered so as not to be intellectually dishonest. It should be an if/ten statement...IF the state is in play THEN a third party vote is half as damaging. (in theory)
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Good point. BTW, too many posts in between, but I appreciated your Hillary 2/Trump -5 post. Just because one is bad, doesn't make the other good.

If I really thought a 3rd party could win, I'd actually get off my arse and vote. Until then, though....
 
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Reading in today's WaPo that tD (not necessarily the GOP) wants Glass-Steagall back.
 
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