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Campaign 2016 Part XII: What Have We Done To Deserve This?

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You're going to give a speech on 20+ year old Clinton stuff. Lovely.
 
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That would be the rats abandoning the ship to save their future careers in politics
 
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This feels like a concession speech, even if it lasts past Thursday in DC
 
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Kepler said:
One of the best tactics was actually pioneered not by Trump but by Fox News. Run a story that says "a source has speculated that X." The source is unnamed and you've included "speculation" so you have done everything truthfully even if five minutes before airing one Fox employee says to the other, "Hey Fred, I wonder if X."

Now your "speculation" is out there and you wait for one of your pals in Congress to say "if true, this concerns me," or even an enemy who responds angrily decrying your rumor-mongering. But now the trap snaps shut, because you have public figures on the record talking about a story you whipped up in the lunch room waiting for your burrito to reheat, so the next night you can go on the air with "mounting controversy concerning X!"

Fox runs with this strategy so often they should rename their network after it.
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This is one of the oldest and most effective tricks in politics. Every hack in the business has used it in times of trouble, and it has even been elevated to the level of political mythology in a story about one of Lyndon Johnson’s early campaigns in Texas. The race was close and Johnson was getting worried. Finally he told his campaign manager to start a massive rumor campaign about his opponent’s life-long habit of enjoying carnal knowledge of his own barnyard sows.
“Christ, we can’t get away with calling him a pig-******er,” the campaign manager protested. “Nobody’s going to believe a thing like that.”
“I know,” Johnson replied. “But let’s make the sonofab**** deny it.”


Hunter S Thompson
Fear and Loathing: On the Campaign Trail '72


I don't think Fox News gets credit for the genesis of this maneuver, although they certainly have refined it.
The twisted part is that the more this card gets played, the easier and more effective it becomes. And thanks to Bill, Hillary was at a disadvantage from the start.
 
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Great victory by Hillary last night! Even the most hardened knuckledragger had a tear in his eye after a stirring victory speech. Its funny how the Dem nominees look like America (black guys, women, etc) while the Goopers keep nominating angry old rich guys.

Now I know Sanders is getting hammered in the press this morning for his speech in the early morning which I didn't stay up to watch, but lets give the man a little bit of space.

But I hope the more simple people out here will realize when they're being conned. Not by Bernie, but by the media. Every so called "big" primary day, there's always the same theme. Sanders is "surging" and Clinton campaign is "scrambling". Every pollster but one had the California race as a 2% margin this past week. She won by 13%. This happened in Iowa (and actual close race), Nevada, New York, Florida, and Ohio. Remember this when you start seeing polls showing Trump "within the margin of error" and the race "too close to call" as we get towards election day.
 
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Rover said:
Great victory by Hillary last night! Even the most hardened knuckledragger had a tear in his eye after a stirring victory speech. Its funny how the Dem nominees look like America (black guys, women, etc) while the Goopers keep nominating angry old rich guys.

Now I know Sanders is getting hammered in the press this morning for his speech in the early morning which I didn't stay up to watch, but lets give the man a little bit of space.

But I hope the more simple people out here will realize when they're being conned. Not by Bernie, but by the media. Every so called "big" primary day, there's always the same theme. Sanders is "surging" and Clinton campaign is "scrambling". Every pollster but one had the California race as a 2% margin this past week. She won by 13%. This happened in Iowa (and actual close race), Nevada, New York, Florida, and Ohio. Remember this when you start seeing polls showing Trump "within the margin of error" and the race "too close to call" as we get towards election day.
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Aren't you late for the Bilderberg conference?
 
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Rover said:
Now I know Sanders is getting hammered in the press this morning for his speech in the early morning which I didn't stay up to watch, but lets give the man a little bit of space.
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Agreed. Also, his people have been killing themselves for a year working for him -- you don't pull the plug before you tell them you're going to pack it in. I expect him to have a conference call with all his district leads and for him to arrange some video speech to all the troops, and that takes awhile to set up.

It's also traditional to let your top people resign. It helps them catch on elsewhere if they can say they walked and weren't just on a life raft after the sinking (even though everybody knows the score obviously). The campaign manager is supposed to stay to the end and bravely disappear below the waves, saluting, but for all the big gun in-party specialists it's a courtesy.

Because this is an ideological run, I expect him to talk about how his people still have a job to do at the convention making the case for liberal planks in the platform and liberal appointees in a Hillary administration.

Solid win by Hillary in CA, and that is probably for the best for the party reunification.
 
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Not sure what Bernie's deal is. He needed to win California or New Jersey to even have a remote argument. The party's over dude, give it up.
 
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Rover said:
Great victory by Hillary last night! Even the most hardened knuckledragger had a tear in his eye after a stirring victory speech. Its funny how the Dem nominees look like America (black guys, women, etc) while the Goopers keep nominating angry old rich guys.

Now I know Sanders is getting hammered in the press this morning for his speech in the early morning which I didn't stay up to watch, but lets give the man a little bit of space.

But I hope the more simple people out here will realize when they're being conned. Not by Bernie, but by the media. Every so called "big" primary day, there's always the same theme. Sanders is "surging" and Clinton campaign is "scrambling". Every pollster but one had the California race as a 2% margin this past week. She won by 13%. This happened in Iowa (and actual close race), Nevada, New York, Florida, and Ohio. Remember this when you start seeing polls showing Trump "within the margin of error" and the race "too close to call" as we get towards election day.
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If Hillary ever whipped out her dong, you'd be first in line to suck it dry, I swear.
 
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