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Campaign 2016 Part XI: the Two Party Problem

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Kepler said:
For that matter, I wonder what percentage of colonists spoke English in 1776. I have seen estimates of about 67%, but I haven't seen any real peer-reviewed data.
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The reason we have no official national language is that the Founding Fathers couldn't decide between German and English. Most people spoke one of the two, and the votes were pretty much evenly split between the two sides. Part of it was an anti-Crown motive, and part of it was the sheer number of native German speakers living in our new nation at the time.
 
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Rover said:
Yup. Biggest problem the GOP has with Trump is that he doesn't need them. Not their money and not their media coverage. Drives them absolutely nuts.
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That's not it. What it is, is he doesn't need the GOP network of consultants and other grifters who make their living "advising", running campaigns, ads, and all that other crap that the establishment funnels big bucks to them for doing.

They're left out in the cold, and they don't like it. That Koch money has to go somewhere, and right now, not enough of it is going into their pockets.
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
There's a lot of situations where immigrants kids have come home and taught their parents English in American History.Why we think we need new requirements now I find silly.
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Cause now there's more of them. And they ain't white like them French speakers, and them Dutch and German settlers.

They're swarthy.
 
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So Trump needs to flip quite a few states. The presidential demo's are against him (and as usual the GOP). The heads are saying that Trump is going after the industrial Midwest. He needs to flip MI, OH, PA and WI to make it happen. That's a tall order esp without Clinton flipping a vulnerable Trump elsewhere. We'll see if the lunch pail crowd stays in line. MN ain't flippin. DC and Minnesota will be the last two to flip. We do not like brash.
 
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Kepler said:
The jokes write themselves.
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I dont care whether it is intentional or not...this is the greatest troll job in American History. Drumpf is doing and saying almost everything wrong, all things the average voter hates/despises in an almost Brewsters Millions style method of trying not to win an election and yet he is the flipping nominee. This isnt some Left wing conspiracy to make him look incompetent, no gotcha journalism...he literally means everything he says (at least in that moment) and like a cockroach he cannot be killed.
 
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Handyman said:
I dont care whether it is intentional or not...this is the greatest troll job in American History. Drumpf is doing and saying almost everything wrong, all things the average voter hates/despises in an almost Brewsters Millions style method of trying not to win an election and yet he is the flipping nominee. This isnt some Left wing conspiracy to make him look incompetent, no gotcha journalism...he literally means everything he says (at least in that moment) and like a cockroach he cannot be killed.
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Apparently just after he got the nomination he told some interviewer he would probably have to raise taxes on the rich. You really can't make up what the man is doing. The GOP Convention had flip flops the year Kerry was nominated and chanted flip-flop flip-flop over and over again while they got their precious W reelected. Now they've nominated the flip-floppiest flip-flopper that ever flop-flipped.
 
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Handyman said:
I dont care whether it is intentional or not...this is the greatest troll job in American History. Drumpf is doing and saying almost everything wrong, all things the average voter hates/despises in an almost Brewsters Millions style method of trying not to win an election and yet he is the flipping nominee. This isnt some Left wing conspiracy to make him look incompetent, no gotcha journalism...he literally means everything he says (at least in that moment) and like a cockroach he cannot be killed.
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Mark Burnett is filming all of this for a new show.
 
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Kepler said:
Mark Burnett is filming all of this for a new show.
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I know I wouldnt be surprised...

Look I still dont think there is a chance in hell he will win...but my god this whole thing is a huge indictment of American Culture and the stupidity of the voting public.
 
Handyman said:
I know I wouldnt be surprised...

Look I still dont think there is a chance in hell he will win...but my god this whole thing is a huge indictment of American Culture and the stupidity of the voting public.
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It's also an indictment of the GOP leadership who found out in a 12 month period that what they've been feeding their constituencies for the past 16 years is wonderful fertilizer.

MiracleGro it's not.
 
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Ryan isn't supporting Trump for now. Now there are a couple of ways he could have said that...he could have said a) I will not support Trump at this point or 2) let's wait until we actually have a nominee.

Ryan has about as big of support as anyone in the party right now...and if he doesn't come out in favor of Trump, that could add a bit more angst to the GOP side in the election.
 
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5mn_Major said:
DC and Minnesota will be the last two to flip. We do not like brash.
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I disagree. If there's one thing Minnesotans at large do well, it's to form a stupid angry mob. And if "The Donald"'s "brash" campaign has any precedent in American History, its initials are Jesse "The Body" Ventura. But having said that, he has no chance at any of these states.
 
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geezer said:
I disagree. If there's one thing Minnesotans at large do well, it's to form a stupid angry mob. And if "The Donald"'s "brash" campaign has any precedent in American History, its initials are Jesse "The Body" Ventura. But having said that, he has no chance at any of these states.
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Minnesota went for Rubio(RUBIO!) in the primary. I'll be shocked if Trump bothers to step foot in this state before November(Oh darn).
 
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Chris Mathews must be a switch hitter, tingle down the leg over Obama and apparently the runway walk of Trumps wife.
 
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Dignity. It's not for dinner.

Former Texas Gov. Rick Perry (R) on Thursday endorsed Donald Trump and left the door open to becoming the Republican vice presidential nominee.

"He is not a perfect man. But what I do believe is that he loves this country and he will surround himself with capable, experienced people and he will listen to them," Perry told CNN. "He wasn't my first choice, wasn't my second choice, but he is the people's choice."

Perry had harsh criticism for Trump early on in the presidential race while the Texas governor was still a presidential candidate. He blasted Trump's "toxic mix of demagoguery and nonsense" in July.

But on Thursday, Perry praised Trump and his presidential bid.

"He is one of the most talented people who has ever run for the president I have ever seen," Perry told CNN.
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