Campaign 2016 Part, let's say, X: There's a red moon rising On the Cuyahoga River

[Handyman]

Re: Campaign 2016 Part, let's say, X: There's a red moon rising On the Cuyahoga River

Laura Bush Doesnt Seem to Like the GOP

Man the implosion continues...

 

[St. Clown]

Re: Campaign 2016 Part, let's say, X: There's a red moon rising On the Cuyahoga River

I thought this would be better suited in one of the political threads rather than the Headline News thread. Prosecutors seeking sentencing for former House Speaker Dennis Hastert in cover up of his sexual abuse of minors.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

Re: Campaign 2016 Part, let's say, X: There's a red moon rising On the Cuyahoga River

I wonder what the State Dept. has to say about this?

http://sunthisweek.com/2016/04/08/spring-break-nightmare-in-mexico/

 

[bronconick]

Re: Campaign 2016 Part, let's say, X: There's a red moon rising On the Cuyahoga River

I thought this would be better suited in one of the political threads rather than the Headline News thread. Prosecutors seeking sentencing for former House Speaker Dennis Hastert in cover up of his sexual abuse of minors.

John Boehner: The best Republican House Speaker of the last 20+ years. Between this pervert, DeLay and Gingrich, the job is cursed. Boehner's biggest issue was being orange.

 

[Kepler]

Re: Campaign 2016 Part, let's say, X: There's a red moon rising On the Cuyahoga River

I wonder what the State Dept. has to say about this?

http://sunthisweek.com/2016/04/08/spring-break-nightmare-in-mexico/

You can not treat a white man that way.

 

[rufus]

Re: Campaign 2016 Part, let's say, X: There's a red moon rising On the Cuyahoga River

You can not treat a white man that way.

Guy's lucky, got a nice ride in a Mexican police pickup truck. Could have had a ride in the back of a Baltimore paddy wagon.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

Re: Campaign 2016 Part, let's say, X: There's a red moon rising On the Cuyahoga River

*sigh*

 

[Kepler]

Re: Campaign 2016 Part, let's say, X: There's a red moon rising On the Cuyahoga River

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

 

[joecct]

Re: Campaign 2016 Part, let's say, X: There's a red moon rising On the Cuyahoga River

I meant what I said. And I said what I meant. And my noise generator masks 100%.

http://m.townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2016/04/10/waitclinton-has-a-static-noise-machine-n2145436

 

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

Re: Campaign 2016 Part, let's say, X: There's a red moon rising On the Cuyahoga River

I meant what I said. And I said what I meant. And my noise generator masks 100%.

http://m.townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2016/04/10/waitclinton-has-a-static-noise-machine-n2145436

Oh come the * on.

 

[Spartanforlife4]

Re: Campaign 2016 Part, let's say, X: There's a red moon rising On the Cuyahoga River

I meant what I said. And I said what I meant. And my noise generator masks 100%.

http://m.townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2016/04/10/waitclinton-has-a-static-noise-machine-n2145436

So transparent.

 

[Rover]

Re: Campaign 2016 Part, let's say, X: There's a red moon rising On the Cuyahoga River

Well Rover may continue to claim he's not concerned, but the rest of the Dem establishment is sh-tting themselves. NYT and WaPo each running editorials slagging Sanders and preaching that we fast forward to the final stage of grief and accept Hine-nui-te-pō.

It's getting hot in here. But please, candidates, do not take off all your clothes.

I should be concerned that my candidate has won more votes and more delegates? Umm...Kep, let me explain something to you. The person who wins the majority of the delegates gets the nomination. You do realize that, right?

 

[joecct]

I should be concerned that my candidate has won more votes and more delegates? Umm...Kep, let me explain something to you. The person who wins the majority of the delegates gets the nomination. You do realize that, right?

Maybe the two should meet at Bosworth and settle this the old fashioned way.

 

[Rover]

Re: Campaign 2016 Part, let's say, X: There's a red moon rising On the Cuyahoga River

Maybe the two should meet at Bosworth and settle this the old fashioned way.

That's about the only way Bernie has a chance at winning the nomination!

I hate to keep injecting reality into these discussions, but for all his recent success in small caucus states Sanders is still way behind and the candidate himself is starting to come unhinged.

 

[Kepler]

Re: Campaign 2016 Part, let's say, X: There's a red moon rising On the Cuyahoga River

That's about the only way Bernie has a chance at winning the nomination!

Take a breath, Rover. Old Ironsides is still ahead, after all.

I disagree it will be a long couple months. Watching Rover clutching pearls like Maureen Dowd in a snit for not being able to get good servants these days has been so enjoyable I wish it could go on forever.

 

[Kepler]

Re: Campaign 2016 Part, let's say, X: There's a red moon rising On the Cuyahoga River

I hate to keep injecting reality into these discussions, but for all his recent success in small caucus states Sanders is still way behind and the candidate himself is starting to come unhinged.

Out of curiosity, will you admit she has a problem if Bernie wins New York? She was up by 30 in polling as recently as late March. She's down to 15, and lately Bernie has been outperforming polling perhaps because of the nature of his ground game. I suspect Hillary will probably win NY by somewhere between 10-15 points, but what if she loses?

Put another way, what is the minimum event where you would start to worry?

 

[mookie1995]

Re: Campaign 2016 Part, let's say, X: There's a red moon rising On the Cuyahoga River

Put another way, what is the minimum event where you would start to worry?

????
why would anyone worry when they lose a state by 12 pts, but come away with a majority of delegates?

 

[Rover]

Re: Campaign 2016 Part, let's say, X: There's a red moon rising On the Cuyahoga River

Out of curiosity, will you admit she has a problem if Bernie wins New York? She was up by 30 in polling as recently as late March. She's down to 15, and lately Bernie has been outperforming polling perhaps because of the nature of his ground game. I suspect Hillary will probably win NY by somewhere between 10-15 points, but what if she loses?

Put another way, what is the minimum event where you would start to worry?

To answer your last question first, I'll start worrying when he gets within striking distance of overtaking her in pledged delegates. As he's 200+ away from that in a proportional delegate system, and as Mookie just alluded to his Wyoming caucus victory netting him zero delegates vs her, we're a long way off. I'm sorry if you keep imagining I'm sweating the race but I'm not. I think because I keep laughing in your face whenever you insinuate that you're just getting more and more bitter, sorta like Sanders has been of late.

Your earlier comments reflect how ridiculous the Sanders campaign has become. It means zero whether he was 30 points down 3 months ago and now he's within 15. He needs to win big. There ARE no more moral victories, a fact you seem to be struggling with way more than a 50 something year old man who's seen many of these contests should be. Either Sanders catches her in pledged delegates, or he doesn't. We can throw out hypotheticals all day, like "what if it turns out Bernie is The Messiah after all". Either he (or Hillary) accumulates delegates at the other's expense, or they don't and their rival wins. Whatever part of this you don't understand, message me privately and I'll be happy to go into a more detailed explanation of a pretty basic concept.

Finally, you're putting too many eggs in the "Bernie's underpolling" basket. He lost by bigger margins than expected in Ohio for example and was predicted to win Missouri and Illinois by some measures. He lost them both. Yes he outperformed in Michigan but that's one state.

 

[Kepler]

Re: Campaign 2016 Part, let's say, X: There's a red moon rising On the Cuyahoga River

If Bernie pulls even or gets ahead it's too late to worry then, it means he's got it. Momentum means a lot.

You keep completely missing the point of my statements in particular and Sanders' followers in general. It has nothing to do with desperation -- we're enjoying ourselves. We're not expected to win and we've been fighting everything from name recognition to large donors to the DNC every step of the way. To have gotten even this far, with a weird looking VT Jew who is a self-avowed democratic socialist, means we've already won. Honest liberalism, not the tactical rechanneling by Obama or the vacant lip service by Herr und Frau Clinton, is getting its first real hearing in 30 years, and it's very popular, particularly among those who in a generation will be the Democratic establishment. Much as Democrats have time on their side, so do liberals -- in each case their opposition is being slowly crushed by the cold equations of demography.

We will likely not win this time. That's OK. The future has a huge bias towards the young.

 

[MaizeRage]

Re: Campaign 2016 Part, let's say, X: There's a red moon rising On the Cuyahoga River

Honest liberalism, not the tactical rechanneling by Obama or the vacant lip service by Herr und Frau Clinton, is getting its first real hearing in 30 years, and it's very popular, particularly among those who in a generation will be the Democratic establishment. Much as Democrats have time on their side, so do liberals -- in each case their opposition is being slowly crushed by the cold equations of demography.

We will likely not win this time. That's OK. The future has a huge bias towards the young.

The only problem is that they grow up.

I hate to keep injecting reality into these discussions, but for all his recent success in small caucus states Sanders is still way behind and the candidate himself is starting to come unhinged.

But he keeps raising more money!!!!