Campaign 2016 Part, let's say, X: There's a red moon rising On the Cuyahoga River

[Kepler]

Re: Campaign 2016 Part, let's say, X: There's a red moon rising On the Cuyahoga River

Context is important here. The sources I've been reading indicate he said women would have to be punished for having an abortion, if abortion were banned (presumably a hypothetical policy proposal of his, and assuredly a goal of Cruz's platform). Which would make it illegal, so duh...

The good news is, it won't happen.

Here: http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/t...-women-may-need-punishment-if-abortion-banned

It's not really that important, since Drumpf is basically saying his idea of a post-Casey world is The Handmaid's Tale. Granting that's been the wet dream of half the GOP for 40 years, he's useful for giving it to people straight and without the usual lies about "religious freedom" or "a culture of life." It has always been about one thing: punishing women who control their own sexuality. That's always been the greatest fear of these cowardly misogynists.

 

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

Re: Campaign 2016 Part, let's say, X: There's a red moon rising On the Cuyahoga River

It's not really that important, since Drumpf is basically saying his idea of a post-Casey world is The Handmaid's Tale. Granting that's been the wet dream of half the GOP for 40 years, he's useful for giving it to people straight and without the usual lies about "religious freedom" or "a culture of life." It has always been about one thing: punishing women who control their own sexuality. That's always been the greatest fear of these cowardly misogynists.

I don't disagree. However, let's not pretend the Short-Fingered Vulgarian doesn't know exactly what he's doing here. It was a line designed to get a certain subset of the population all poutragey, and thus far it seems to be working quite well.

 

[Kepler]

Re: Campaign 2016 Part, let's say, X: There's a red moon rising On the Cuyahoga River

I don't disagree. However, let's not pretend the Short-Fingered Vulgarian doesn't know exactly what he's doing here. It was a line designed to get a certain subset of the population all poutragey, and thus far it seems to be working quite well.

I expect the next thing he'll drop is some good old racism. Nothing gets Freepers in a sweat faster than angry Negroes.

Don't they realize that old white men are the real victims of racism?

 

[joecct]

I expect the next thing he'll drop is some good old racism. Nothing gets Freepers in a sweat faster than angry Negroes.

Don't they realize that old white men are the real victims of racism?

If the Negroes figure out the Dems have been playing them for dupes, then the riot will be ugly.

 

[Kepler]

Re: Campaign 2016 Part, let's say, X: There's a red moon rising On the Cuyahoga River

If the Negroes figure out the Dems have been playing them for dupes, then the riot will be ugly.

You're projecting. Just because the party that explicitly doesn't believe in government uses public service as a con doesn't mean the one trying to help people is too. The Dems have a lot of faults but lack of earnestness, unfortunately, is not among them.

But I suppose that explains how Republicans can sleep at night.

 

[joecct]

Re: Campaign 2016 Part, let's say, X: There's a red moon rising On the Cuyahoga River

Another conspiracy?

@nbcwashington: JUST IN: Bernie Sanders not on D.C. ballot after Dem. party error, sources say http://nbc4dc.com/UIdwA69

 

[Rover]

Re: Campaign 2016 Part, let's say, X: There's a red moon rising On the Cuyahoga River

Something nobody has ever denied. Your "puff puff aw look at the old hippies puff" thing is in your head, dude. You sound like an 80-year old yelling at clouds.

Funny because that's usually how Sanders is described! Only in fairness he's only about 75.

Another conspiracy?

@nbcwashington: JUST IN: Bernie Sanders not on D.C. ballot after Dem. party error, sources say http://nbc4dc.com/UIdwA69

Bernie has so little support amongst blacks he's on a first name basis with the ones voting for him. He's probably better off not making the ballot in DC!

 

[Kepler]

Re: Campaign 2016 Part, let's say, X: There's a red moon rising On the Cuyahoga River

Bernie has so little support amongst blacks he's on a first name basis with the ones voting for him. He's probably better off not making the ballot in DC!

DC has been plurality white for 8 years.

Like I said, an 80-year old yelling at clouds...

 

[mookie1995]

Re: Campaign 2016 Part, let's say, X: There's a red moon rising On the Cuyahoga River

Bernie has so little support amongst blacks he's on a first name basis with the ones voting for him. He's probably better off not making the ballot in DC!

like they vote anywhos....

 

[Rover]

Re: Campaign 2016 Part, let's say, X: There's a red moon rising On the Cuyahoga River

DC has been plurality white for 8 years.

Like I said, an 80-year old yelling at clouds...

Huhhh..

https://suburbanstats.org/population/how-many-people-live-in-washington-dc


Population by Races





Race Population % of Total

Total Population 601,723 100
Black or African American 305,125 50
White 231,471 38
Hispanic or Latino 54,749 9
Some Other Race 24,374 4
Asian 21,056 3
Two or More Races 17,316 2
American Indian 2,079 Below 1%
Three or more races 2,043 Below 1%
Native Hawaiian Pacific Islander 302 Below 1%


C'mon Kep. Its okay to admit once again that I'm right and you're wrong!

 

[Kepler]

Re: Campaign 2016 Part, let's say, X: There's a red moon rising On the Cuyahoga River

Its okay to admit once again that I'm right and you're wrong!

For the first time ever, you are right. I was mixing up blacks losing their overall majority (which did happen around 2007, your numbers are not right) with them losing their plurality.

 

[Kepler]

Re: Campaign 2016 Part, let's say, X: There's a red moon rising On the Cuyahoga River

Rich Lowry really does not like Herr Drumpf.

Every rational calculation says that Trump should seek to preserve the pledge. At this point, he is more likely than anyone else to be the nominee and benefit from the support of his competitors. He should want to use every possible lever of unity at his disposal given the threats of an independent conservative candidacy should he win the nomination. And yet, he's done the opposite.

Who can guess why? Stupid pride? A manliness contest, where he wants the likes of Ted Cruz eventually to have to offer his support even after he says he doesn't want it? A disdain for every political convention, even one that might help him?

Whatever the reason, it is yet another sign that Trump is all about himself. In this sense, he is already what the RNC feared when it got him to sign the pledge—a third-party candidate. He's running against the Republican Party from within the Republican Party. He cares nothing about its values or its interests. He favors it exactly to the extent it can be subordinated to him and no further.

Too subtle? OK, then...

The Trump phenomenon holds important lessons for the GOP, especially about its dated policy creed and out-of-touch elites. But there is no escaping the insuperable weakness and failings of Trump himself, namely his egotism, immaturity, irresponsibility and habitual dishonesty. That one of his most stalwart supporters, Ann Coulter, felt moved to muse that he's "mental" tells you all you need to know about the Republican front-runner.

 

[Kepler]

Re: Campaign 2016 Part, let's say, X: There's a red moon rising On the Cuyahoga River

Nice party.

I guess we should thank Drumpf for finally showing everybody who they really are.

 

[Rover]

Re: Campaign 2016 Part, let's say, X: There's a red moon rising On the Cuyahoga River

Trump should back away from the loyalty pledge. If the party is openly planning to screw him at the convention, why should he be loyal to people who aren't loyal to him? Doesn't make him any less nuts mind you. However he's correct on this point and its why the nomination is going to be a disaster if he doesn't win outright. There's no chance his voters get behind some Establishment stiff like Paul Ryan as a compromise candidate. Trump the cartoon character running for Prez doesn't compromise.

 

[Kepler]

Re: Campaign 2016 Part, let's say, X: There's a red moon rising On the Cuyahoga River

There's no chance his voters get behind some Establishment stiff like Paul Ryan as a compromise candidate.

The chance would be if Drumpf didn't run third party. Then the Echo Chamber would churn out Hillary Terror 24/7 and most of Drumpf's useful idiots would get on board.

But at this point does anybody expect Drumpf to go gently into that good night?

 

[joecct]

The chance would be if Drumpf didn't run third party. Then the Echo Chamber would churn out Hillary Terror 24/7 and most of Drumpf's useful idiots would get on board.

But at this point does anybody expect Drumpf to go gently into that good night?

If there was an outgoing GOP administration, I would imagine a sudden influx of SEC and/or DoJ operatives to decend on Trump, Inc to preoccupy and derail his campaign. But since we don't, the best forbthe Dems is keeping tD around as long as possible.

But, if I was tD, I'd avoid shopping malls in Laurel, MD.

 

[Spartanforlife4]

Re: Campaign 2016 Part, let's say, X: There's a red moon rising On the Cuyahoga River

This article really hits hard on Bernie.

In regards to Trump, he has to go third party at this point if he doesn't get the nomination. This has gone on longer and been more wildly successful than anyone could have imagined. If he's in it purely for the ego stroking, he'll definitely continue, because a third party run is going to bring him even more attention.

 

[Rover]

Re: Campaign 2016 Part, let's say, X: There's a red moon rising On the Cuyahoga River

The chance would be if Drumpf didn't run third party. Then the Echo Chamber would churn out Hillary Terror 24/7 and most of Drumpf's useful idiots would get on board.

But at this point does anybody expect Drumpf to go gently into that good night?

I don't expect him to play nice at all. In fact I wouldn't even consider the possibility if I was in the RNC. He won't on any level accept getting hosed out of the nomination at the convention if he falls 100 delegates short for example. His whole mantra is his voters are being screwed by party fat cats. If party fat cats then turn around and deny him the nomination even though he can't be caught at this point in terms of delegates won (he can only be denied a majority) Trump is not going to care if Paul Ryan is the choice or Abe Lincoln's corpse. He's going to tear the GOP to shreds.

Best thing for the GOP to do is nominate him. The alternative chaos is much, MUCH worse.

 

[Kepler]

Re: Campaign 2016 Part, let's say, X: There's a red moon rising On the Cuyahoga River

If party fat cats then turn around and deny him the nomination even though he can't be caught at this point in terms of delegates won (he can only be denied a majority) Trump is not going to care if Paul Ryan is the choice or Abe Lincoln's corpse. He's going to tear the GOP to shreds.

I think they'll try to buy him off, and we'll see whether Drumpf cares more about "the deal" or his ego. This could, after everything, just be a way for him to hold up the RNC for $$$.

I guess it comes back to what Drumpf's motivation is, at heart, in everything? Does he spout off to create a brand that he can then monetize, or is he just a clueless blowhard? If the former he'll play chicken with the RNC and make them blink. If the latter, then you're right, there is no way for them to stop him short of assassination.

 

[dxmnkd316]

Re: Campaign 2016 Part, let's say, X: There's a red moon rising On the Cuyahoga River

I think they'll try to buy him off, and we'll see whether Drumpf cares more about "the deal" or his ego. This could, after everything, just be a way for him to hold up the RNC for $$$.

I guess it comes back to what Drumpf's motivation is, at heart, in everything? Does he spout off to create a brand that he can then monetize, or is he just a clueless blowhard? If the former he'll play chicken with the RNC and make them blink. If the latter, then you're right, there is no way for them to stop him short of assassination.

Especially if he's loaned his campaign as much money as is being reported (or probably underreported). His brand, IMHO, has taken a beating this year. He's not going to get broadcast TV deals anymore. Maybe in a few years, but the blowback would be immense for the network.