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Campaign 2016 - A Trump l'oeil? Kepler's Laws of Election Motions? Ship of Fools?

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I'm getting a good laugh reading the "GOP Insiders" view of who won the debate. Not saying something stupid doesn't qualify as having a "solid" performance IMHO but apparently that's the rule for some people...
 
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are there enough political donations in this country to pay half of these clowns go away? unfortunately The Donald probably can't be bought off. and who the heck are these people polled that would vote for him??
 
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and this just in. Fox pulled at 16 rating and a 48 share. OMG! that is stratospheric for cable.
 
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huskyfan said:
are there enough political donations in this country to pay half of these clowns go away? unfortunately The Donald probably can't be bought off. and who the heck are these people polled that would vote for him??
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Tons of people. Although Fox hates him so he has no shot. Fox tried to get rid of him last night with the questions and their focus group. They failed. Also made idiots out of themselves but that's what they do.
 
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Rubio was definitely the best spoken.

I thought Jeb! had the most "presidential" answers, but he stumbled and stuttered over some of his words.

I loved how different Trump's vocabulary was compared to everyone else. It was like they threw up that random cousin who always rage comments on Facebook news articles onto the stage.

And of course, it can't be a debate unless you fight over who loves 9/11 the most, i.e. Christie and Paul.
 
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huskyfan said:
and this just in. Fox pulled at 16 rating and a 48 share. OMG! that is stratospheric for cable.
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Kinda like to see demographics on that. How many of those were tuning in for the trainwreck, and how many were True Believers?
 
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Twitch Boy said:
Kinda like to see demographics on that. How many of those were tuning in for the trainwreck, and how many were True Believers?
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The most important thing to me was to hope they ran the debate to keep the full derps in the race as long as possible. They may have succeeded no matter how hard they tried to eliminate Trump.
 
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Lots of non-Goopers I'll bet tuned in to watch the circus, particularly TRUMP!
 
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So how's this work now?

We're 15 months out from the election, so we trim 17 down to 15 and do this again in September to get to 14? Who's out?

How'll the September round of 15 work? 9 prime time and 6 in the under card? Will it be relegation and Carly moves up? Who moves down?

So many questions ... so many questions ...

Huh? What's that you say? We keep this whole mess for the forseeable?

< facepalm >
 
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CNN already announced the rules for the next debate. It's basically going to be the same type of format.
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
I found it interesting how Fox asked the questions. They were picking winners and losers by the questions they asked and how they asked them. They obviously want Trump out of there. There was plenty of war on women without bringing up Trump's comments about them. They have a man crush on Jeb.
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Roger Ailes created Fox to be the propaganda arm of the GOP. Trump does not help that mission (to say the least), therefore Trump has to be stopped. That was the reason for the "will you pledge not to run as a third party" opening. They wanted to maim him right out of the gate. Reince Priebus might as well have been the "moderator" last night.

I'm starting to think Mark Cuban was more right than all the poli sci folks: it does not matter what Trump says, his appeal is purely on his mannerisms. He has perfected the "I'm mad as hell and I'm not gonna take it anymore" act, and there are a lot of meatheads out there for whom that is enough.

Megyn Kelly is still smoking hot, but she's aging out of her wardrobe. We need you a little more naughty executive and a little less cheeky Young Republican, sweetie. Those days are gone. :(
 
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The Sicatoka said:
So how's this work now?

We're 15 months out from the election, so we trim 17 down to 15 and do this again in September to get to 14? Who's out?

How'll the September round of 15 work? 9 prime time and 6 in the under card? Will it be relegation and Carly moves up? Who moves down?

So many questions ... so many questions ...

Huh? What's that you say? We keep this whole mess for the forseeable?

< facepalm >
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A circus party deserves a circus nomination. This has been a long time a comin'.
 
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walrus said:
He may not be a neocon but he will shift that way if he wants a chance.
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He may try to fly under the radar to get the nomination. His dad tried telling the War, Torture and Surveillance party that war, torture and surveillance are stupid and authoritarian. Spoiler: that didn't work. So now maybe he's just going to fly under the radar -- or outright lie -- to try to evade the gatekeepers.

He hates the Empire and wants to shed it. He may just need a head fake to get past the flag pin efwits.
 
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As far as winnowing candidates go, Carson/Christie/Huckleberry need to stop wasting their donors money. I'm guessing Carson throws in the towel first. For the 2nd tier I can see why Perry is still around because he has nothing better to do. Fiorina as well and she's probably angling for a cabinet position/ambassador appointment in a GOP administration. Graham wants us to relaunch a few wars so I can see his schtick. Everybody else stop embarassing yourselves and think of your families. :D
 
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As far as winnowing candidates go, Carson/Christie/Huckleberry need to stop wasting their donors money. I'm guessing Carson throws in the towel first. For the 2nd tier I can see why Perry is still around because he has nothing better to do. Fiorina as well and she's probably angling for a cabinet position/ambassador appointment in a GOP administration. Graham wants us to relaunch a few wars so I can see his schtick. Everybody else stop embarassing yourselves and think of your families. :D
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Huckleberry's not going anywhere.

Carson wants to be FNC's house you-know-what.

Carly probably thinks she can be the token vagina on the anti-Hillary ticket. In the worm-eaten minds of Republicans that will somehow neutralize Hillary's appeal to women, as if policies made no difference. :rolleyes:

I want Christie to stay for a while because as the Jeb! coronation becomes realized it will take somebody who missed his distemper shots to finally rip the clothes off the Chimperor from inside the party.
 
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Rover said:
As far as winnowing candidates go, Carson/Christie/Huckleberry need to stop wasting their donors money. I'm guessing Carson throws in the towel first. For the 2nd tier I can see why Perry is still around because he has nothing better to do. Fiorina as well and she's probably angling for a cabinet position/ambassador appointment in a GOP administration. Graham wants us to relaunch a few wars so I can see his schtick. Everybody else stop embarassing yourselves and think of your families. :D
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Fox's Focus Group had massive love for Huckleberry. He's not going anywhere.
 
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So, I know all real and sane Republicans are supposed to be horrified by Donald Trump. Post election coverage has settled on Kasich as someone with gravitas and a compassionate approach....


BUT, did ANYBODY on that stage call out Trump when they had the chance? No, not from what I've seen. It was left to Megyn freakin' Kelly, the moderator no doubt doing Roger Ailes bidding, to set him up and after Trump batted away her misogyny charges, did any other person on the stage jump in and call him out on his rhetoric? Did anybody say about immigration, "yeah, I'm not for illegal immigration any more than Trump, but I also don't think these people are rapists. All you got was a sackless Jebbers! saying immigrants come here out of love, which wimps out on taking on a xenophobic campaign being waged by a guy standing right next to him.

So, when you read an article saying how splendid everybody else did during the debate (aside from Carson who's getting hammered for reasons I don't quite understand) I'd keep that in mind because I'm sure Hillary will during the general election. "Gov Bush/Walker/Sen Rubio/etc - when you had a chance to confront Donald Trump on stage when he called women fat pigs, you chose not to do so. How can we expect you to stand up to the anti-women extremists in Congress if you won't even stand up to Donald Trump?"
 
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