Campaign 2014: The Epic Struggle To Win The Senate And Change Nothing

[Rimbaud]

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As Rick once said "I appear to have been misinformed. "

Kind of curious, did you just read that on something akin to an email forward and roll with it or did you just not watch the news from 2003-2011 when Arnold was the governor?

 

[unofan]

538 ran a great piece about this a week ago.

With the loss of Cantor, the GOP Congressional membership is also entirely Christian.*

* - unless you're one of those Protestants who believes Catholics are not Christians but idol worshippers and excludes Mormons as well.

 

[Rover]

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Kind of curious, did you just read that on something akin to an email forward and roll with it or did you just not watch the news from 2003-2011 when Arnold was the governor?

Probably thinking Aaaaanold would be considered a liberal democrat if he tried to run nowadays.

 

[dxmnkd316]

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Man, the state and national Republican ads here have been terrible compared to the Dem's.

There has only been a single RNC ad that made a good point. The one where some a hole representative charges taxpayers for two leased vehicles and something like $15,000/year in gas and mileage.

 

[Kepler]

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Man, the state and national Republican ads here have been terrible compared to the Dem's.

There has only been a single RNC ad that made a good point. The one where some a hole representative charges taxpayers for two leased vehicles and something like $15,000/year in gas and mileage.

This ought to change soon, but it's gettin' kinda late. 538 ran a story about 3 weeks ago that basically said:

1. For the first time since Zsa Zsa looked doable, the DCCC and DSCC each outraised the NRCC and NRSC from Jan-Jun.

2. But, everybody expected the GOP to dominate fundraising from now until the election, particularly through all the front organizations their bundlers have set up to launder corporate money.

3. In the end, the late money always goes to the favorite, and the GOP is still the favorite to hold the House (about a 90% certainty) and take the Senate (about 55%, though down from about 65% before the KS and NC implosions).

Maybe the GOP finally got smart and started spending its money on something other than TV buys.

 

[Rover]

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While I don't run with the Sheldon Aldersons of the world, my understanding is people like him are still smarting from being burned in the last election, plus they also realize that many of these SuperPac's are nothing but scams that line the pockets of their founders while doing little if anything to actually promote a candidate.

 

[MaizeRage]

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There has only been a single RNC ad that made a good point. The one where some a hole representative charges taxpayers for two leased vehicles and something like $15,000/year in gas and mileage.

Did the Republican candidate offer to jog from Roseau to Marshall?

 

[joecct]

Man, the state and national Republican ads here have been terrible compared to the Dem's.

There has only been a single RNC ad that made a good point. The one where some a hole representative charges taxpayers for two leased vehicles and something like $15,000/year in gas and mileage.

Haven't seen an ad yet here in the DC Metro area. But 100% are in safe seats so why bother?

Only interesting race may be DC mayor where a gay white male is taking on an African-American female.

 

[Rover]

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Okay, even I think this quote is a little rude!

"He's basically furniture in the Senate, and the people in Kansas know that. You could give the average Kansan 24 hours to come up with something Pat Roberts has done in the Senate, and after 24 hours, even the crickets would be standing there befuddled."

-- GOP strategist John Weaver, quoted by the Washington Post.

 

[Kepler]

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Okay, even I think this quote is a little rude!

"He's basically furniture in the Senate, and the people in Kansas know that. You could give the average Kansan 24 hours to come up with something Pat Roberts has done in the Senate, and after 24 hours, even the crickets would be standing there befuddled."

-- GOP strategist John Weaver, quoted by the Washington Post.

"The trouble with Republicans is that when they get in trouble they start acting like cannibals." -- Richard M. Nixon, 1958. Congressional Quarterly

 

[dxmnkd316]

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Did the Republican candidate offer to jog from Roseau to Marshall?

Probably.

 

[Rover]

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Finally somebody gets it:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs.../24/why-likely-voter-polls-may-be-misleading/

If you read the Daily Kos whiners or pundidiots, you might think the GOP is poised for a 60 seat majority. After every Labor Day, pollsters switch to a likely voter model that they have to tweak over time. Those initial forays always overweight the most enthusiastic voters. Then as they adjust their models to make more sense they get closer (but not quite) to the poll of registered voters.

After the Gallup debacle of 2012, I'm a little amused its taken this long for somebody in the lamestream media to point this out.

 

[joecct]

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Or likely to vote voters. I'm a likely to vote voter but in Maryland I'm just peeing in the wind.

 

[GrinCDXX]

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Or likely to vote voters. I'm a likely to vote voter but in Maryland I'm just peeing in the wind.

As am I

 

[joecct]

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Can the President get an AG nominated and confirmed during the remaining days of this Congress??

 

[Kepler]

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If you read the Daily Kos whiners or pundidiots, you might think the GOP is poised for a 60 seat majority.

You must not be reading Kos lately. The past couple weeks they have been positively bullish on our chances in AK, NC, KS, and a couple others. I think they may actually be over-estimating Dem chances in an attempt to pump up the GOTV ground game.

And you certainly don't read the Comments in Kos. They are peppered with dozens of Rovers sagely counseling that we have to ride the sad old nag we've got (er, sorry Hillary) because otherwise 2000 AGAIN! There are definitely as many Rovers as Keplers on Kos. I don't know why you use it as your whipping boy for supposed starry-eyed liberalism.

Now DU... there you've got a point. Those guys are as dumb as Freep and have a grasp of reality almost as tenuous as Red State.

 

[Rover]

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You must not be reading Kos lately. The past couple weeks they have been positively bullish on our chances in AK, NC, KS, and a couple others. I think they may actually be over-estimating Dem chances in an attempt to pump up the GOTV ground game.

And you certainly don't read the Comments in Kos. They are peppered with dozens of Rovers sagely counseling that we have to ride the sad old nag we've got (er, sorry Hillary) because otherwise 2000 AGAIN! There are definitely as many Rovers as Keplers on Kos. I don't know why you use it as your whipping boy for supposed starry-eyed liberalism.

Now DU... there you've got a point. Those guys are as dumb as Freep and have a grasp of reality almost as tenuous as Red State.

They're a whipping boy for whiny liberalism combined with a lack of political savvy. 6 months ago they're all throwing dirt on Pryor saying how they'd be better off without him. Then his poll #'s improve and he's the poster boy for Dems winning down South. Then when the likely voter model got put into place he's down again its all boo-hoo-hoo those dastardly Republicans are gonna take down one of our favorites . Now another poll shows him up and its high fives all around. Make up your minds already.

So the posters are all over the place, pick the wrong battles, and basically have your glum outlook on political life.

 

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

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If you guys think Daily Kos comments are out there, you should read CNN's and laugh. It's like the Fox crowd invaded and took over. The story on Holder's resignation is on a roll right now.

 

[Kepler]

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They're a whipping boy for whiny liberalism combined with a lack of political savvy.

You should listen to Kos' radio appearances. He, at least, is the epitome of political savvy. I'm usually impressed by him.

The one thing Dems don't need is backbiting between center and left. That cost us in the 80s and to the extent that we've gotten away from it we flourish. As Kos is fond of saying and as the numbers bear out, when we vote, we win. The only thing that stops liberal policy in the US is liberal apathy at the polls.

 

[Rover]

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You should listen to Kos' radio appearances. He, at least, is the epitome of political savvy. I'm usually impressed by him.

The one thing Dems don't need is backbiting between center and left. That cost us in the 80s and to the extent that we've gotten away from it we flourish. As Kos is fond of saying and as the numbers bear out, when we vote, we win. The only thing that stops liberal policy in the US is liberal apathy at the polls.

Can't say I've ever seen or heard him anywhere, just the occasional blog post. Its one thing to run Joe Lieberman out of the party rightly due to his refusal to admit the Iraq war was a collossal mistake. But getting on a southern Dem's case in an election year for say siding with the NRA on some legislation that was never going to pass anyway is insane. For all their faults, no Dem Senator voted against the ACA, the most significant piece of liberal legislation in decades. That will most likely cost some of them their jobs. People who take the right vote no matter the political costs should be celebrated, not scorned. Hence my problem with those whiners.