Business, Economics, and Taxes: Capitalism. Yay? >=(

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

Speaking of Di$ney, they announced today that they're closing Splash Mountain for reimagineering into a modern ride that references a current film that children and Mousehead adults will know. You know, basic capitalist decision-making.

Cue Twitter racists who love Song of the South to complain about "woke" Disney.

 

[Swansong]

DeSantis is about to blink on his fight with Di$ney...

I thought they'd wait until January to make it less transparent that this was all a dumb dog and pony show. But I suppose their resounding success last month in the state reinforced the notion that they can do whatever they want.


Having a recently-ousted CEO to scapegoat was perfect timing for them.

 

[Handyman]

They aren't even messaging they are basically just quietly rescinding the previous rescinding. They aren't even pretending it is because of the ousting of Chapek...

 

[Swansong]

They aren't even messaging they are basically just quietly rescinding the previous rescinding. They aren't even pretending it is because of the ousting of Chapek...

Well the FT article quoted a congress critter talking about being glad Iger was back, and that Chapek was a problem.

 

[ticapnews]

Tired: Disney is going to be sold to Apple.
Wired: Disney is going to buy Netflix.

 

[Drew S.]

This is crazy https://www.boston.com/real-estate/...als-moved-in-with-parents/?p1=hp_featurestack

 

[SJHovey]

This is crazy https://www.boston.com/real-estate/...als-moved-in-with-parents/?p1=hp_featurestack

Why is it crazy?

I actually think we are going to see more multi-generational living arrangements in this country, perhaps for the overall benefit of the country and citizens. Everyone living in their own house isn't necessarily sustainable, or even smart.

Once you have the 20 and 30 somethings living with their parents, who are in their 50's or 60's, along with the grandparents who are in their 80's, you solve a lot of problems like daycare, caring for the elderly, and the housing shortage.

I suspect people are going to see the benefits of it, and we'll see more of it.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

Why is it crazy?

I actually think we are going to see more multi-generational living arrangements in this country, perhaps for the overall benefit of the country and citizens. Everyone living in their own house isn't necessarily sustainable, or even smart.

Once you have the 20 and 30 somethings living with their parents, who are in their 50's or 60's, along with the grandparents who are in their 80's, you solve a lot of problems like daycare, caring for the elderly, and the housing shortage.

I suspect people are going to see the benefits of it, and we'll see more of it.

Sure. Why not? We're now realizing Reagan's vision. The American Dream is dead. Shovel the dirt on it.

 

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

Lol
Elon
https://twitter.com/tedrickg/status/1600234830360240128?s=46&t=Cqtd66N1PnD2ABZt2zb73Q

 

[Drew S.]

Why is it crazy?

I actually think we are going to see more multi-generational living arrangements in this country, perhaps for the overall benefit of the country and citizens. Everyone living in their own house isn't necessarily sustainable, or even smart.

Once you have the 20 and 30 somethings living with their parents, who are in their 50's or 60's, along with the grandparents who are in their 80's, you solve a lot of problems like daycare, caring for the elderly, and the housing shortage.

I suspect people are going to see the benefits of it, and we'll see more of it.

I think it makes sense for older folks to live with their kids, but it’s really depressing if kids in their 20’s and 30’s have to live with their parents. Especially if it’s because they don’t have any other choice financially. It’s not ideal for the economy if people can’t move as well.

 

[French Rage]

It's only in the last couple generations we've decided young people should be out of their parent's place by the time they turn 18. It used to be they lived there for many years to build up the necessary nest-egg needed to go out and find somewhere of their own. Even now I know a number of people who did it; it allowed my wife to save up and pay for law school completely on her own; and her parents had the extra space, no point in it going to waste. And as SJHovey mentioned, multiple generations living together comes with a number of advantages (grandparents babysit the children, children and parents provide physical help for grandparents, parents make the money knowing they have people at home) that can be had if it is done correctly. Frankly it's less of a waste of resources, too.

Now, if young people everywhere have to do it because a generation is so helplessly poor, then yes, that is an issue. But that will show up in so many more meaningful statistics than "oh no some people in their 20s are living with their parents" clickbait for easily-led-astray halfwits.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

It's only in the last couple generations we've decided young people should be out of their parent's place by the time they turn 18. It used to be they lived there for many years to build up the necessary nest-egg needed to go out and find somewhere of their own. Even now I know a number of people who did it; it allowed my wife to save up and pay for law school completely on her own; and her parents had the extra space, no point in it going to waste. And as SJHovey mentioned, multiple generations living together comes with a number of advantages (grandparents babysit the children, children and parents provide physical help for grandparents, parents make the money knowing they have people at home) that can be had if it is done correctly. Frankly it's less of a waste of resources, too.

Now, if young people everywhere have to do it because a generation is so helplessly poor, then yes, that is an issue. But that will show up in so many more meaningful statistics than "oh no some people in their 20s are living with their parents" clickbait for easily-led-astray halfwits.

The problem is they have to live at home after college, after getting a job. That should not happen. I was kicked out at 20.

 

[French Rage]

The problem is they have to live at home after college, after getting a job. That should not happen. I was kicked out at 20.

- It comes down to how much they "have to". I've known people that did, not because it was not any more or less affordable than it was previously, but because their parents had the means to still house them and it was a great way to save money off the bat.
- Saying you were kicked out at 20 adds nothing to the debate. Did your parents straight up want you out and it was never up for debate? Did you want to get out and it was never up for debate? Did your parents home not lend itself size-wise and resource-wise to having another person around for more than the minimum number of years? All of those factors led to your situation and would likely have different answers for different people leading to different outcomes for them, so saying "well this happened to me 30 years ago but it's not happening to some specific kids today" doesn't answer anything, it's two random observations without any control variable.

Again, I'm not trying to whistle past the graveyard here, there are actual useful statistics that might and do show how things are faring for current young people versus those from previous generations, but this anecdotal stuff serves no purpose.

 

[Kepler]

Conservatives made a choice to destroy the standard of living of middle class people in exchange for enriching millionaires and creating billionaires. Middle class and especially poor whites made that choice happily, because it came wrapped in bright colorful militarism, racism, and theocracy.

This is simply the result of those decisions. Every reasonable economist, sociologist, and historian not directly on the Plutes' payroll TOLD THEM this would happen forty years ago, but they went head and did it anyway cuz hurr hurr what do those "stupid high IQ" people know, right?

Decisions. Consequences.

 

[Handyman]

Not to mention America is kind of an outlier in this regard. Plenty of modern societies still have multigenerational homes for a bevy of reasons.

As Frenchy has been saying, the context matters. There are tons of advantageous reasons for it.

 

[Kepler]

 

[rufus]

Not to mention America is kind of an outlier in this regard. Plenty of modern societies still have multigenerational hom es for a bevy of reasons.

As Frenchy has been saying, the context matters. There are tons of advantageous reasons for it.

And also, in America, isn't the single family household pretty much a fairly recent occurrence in the grand scheme of things? Like post 1900, or even WWII.

Before that, you had plenty of multi'-generational families that lived together in the same household. And still common today among the households of immigrant families.

 

[Drew S.]

And also, in America, isn't the single family household pretty much a fairly recent occurrence in the grand scheme of things? Like post 1900, or even WWII.

Before that, you had plenty of multi'-generational families that lived together in the same household. And still common today among the households of immigrant families.

Bring back a 19th century standard of living!!!!!!

 

[ScoobyDoo]

- It comes down to how much they "have to". I've known people that did, not because it was not any more or less affordable than it was previously, but because their parents had the means to still house them and it was a great way to save money off the bat.
- Saying you were kicked out at 20 adds nothing to the debate. Did your parents straight up want you out and it was never up for debate? Did you want to get out and it was never up for debate? Did your parents home not lend itself size-wise and resource-wise to having another person around for more than the minimum number of years? All of those factors led to your situation and would likely have different answers for different people leading to different outcomes for them, so saying "well this happened to me 30 years ago but it's not happening to some specific kids today" doesn't answer anything, it's two random observations without any control variable.

Again, I'm not trying to whistle past the graveyard here, there are actual useful statistics that might and do show how things are faring for current young people versus those from previous generations, but this anecdotal stuff serves no purpose.

No, I was kicked out.

 

[rufus]

Bring back a 19th century standard of living!!!!!!

That's your party's dream. Just in case you hadn't noticed.