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Business, Economics, and Taxes: Capitalism. Yay? >=(

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I don't think "silent quitting" is fake at all, I just think the name is dumb. It's a movement - a real one - where employees are simply refusing to do anything beyond what they're compensated for.

I'm a manager. Free labor is wonderful to me. But f that. Do your job and the rest is on the company. Going above and beyond in extraordinary circumstances is one thing, but don't moralize to me if I refuse to work 50 hours per week as an exempt employee. Hire someone. Or less work gets done.
 
SJHovey said:
But if (using your numbers) he lays off 3750 people earning $150k/yr, on average, plus benefits, hasn't he just cut costs by $560 million, plus benefits?

Mind you, I'm not saying what he is doing is right, or wrong. Personally, I don't care since I am neither a Twitter employee nor user. He may literally have no idea what he is doing, but it's my personal opinion that people don't get to where he has gotten as an idiot.
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He got where he has gotten by being born on third base. he is no more a business genius than Trump is and we have seen how badly he runs a business.
 
Swansong said:
I don't think "silent quitting" is fake at all, I just think the name is dumb. It's a movement - a real one - where employees are simply refusing to do anything beyond what they're compensated for.

I'm a manager. Free labor is wonderful to me. But f that. Do your job and the rest is on the company. Going above and beyond in extraordinary circumstances is one thing, but don't moralize to me if I refuse to work 50 hours per week as an exempt employee. Hire someone. Or less work gets done.
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That isn't "quitting" that is just putting a name to what most people working jobs they hate do. "Doing the bare minimum to keep your job" has been a thing for longer than most of us have been alive.

Sorry but the entire concept is a joke and is not newsworthy. (and it is also not a movement) It is no more prevalent now than it was when I was 16 years old.
 
Handyman said:
That isn't "quitting" that is just putting a name to what most people working jobs they hate do. "Doing the bare minimum to keep your job" has been a thing for longer than most of us have been alive.

Sorry but the entire concept is a joke and is not newsworthy. (and it is also not a movement) It is no more prevalent now than it was when I was 16 years old.
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Of course it's a joke. It's upper managers whining that people are standing up for themselves as employees more and more. I think it's a positive thing.


And I do think it's more prevalent now than in years' past, but that's purely anecdotal. You may be right.
 
Handyman said:
He got where he has gotten by being born on third base. he is no more a business genius than Trump is and we have seen how badly he runs a business.
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Yeah, the likely WARN Act violation is not "saving" any money and was just a stupid decision. He could have simply provided proper WARN Act Notice, paid the employees their salary/benefits for 60 days, realized the use of those services, and then still laid off the employees to "save" money in the long haul. Instead, he failed to provide a simple WARN Act Notice, and now he will end up paying way more than 60 days' worth of salary/benefits to people (I would anticipate at least a 2x multiplier), not to mention also lose their services for those 60 days, potentially get assessed exemplary damages and be personally liable, and suffer a huge PR blow. Talk about an abysmal business decision.
 
Work under capitalism is utterly unfulfilling. We've known the fact of that, and why, since the 1840s. Having your labor alienated from its product is a recipe for unhappiness. My God, Aristotle was on about that 2400 years ago, literally, and he was an aristo.
 
Swansong said:
Of course it's a joke. It's upper managers whining that people are standing up for themselves as employees more and more. I think it's a positive thing.


And I do think it's more prevalent now than in years' past, but that's purely anecdotal. You may be right.
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There’s been a slow awakening of labor class consciousness the last few years among Millennials and Gen Z, COVID just gave it a huge kick in the —-, and now the ruling class knows something is up and is desperate to the keep the genie in the bottle.
 
Handyman said:
That isn't "quitting" that is just putting a name to what most people working jobs they hate do. "Doing the bare minimum to keep your job" has been a thing for longer than most of us have been alive.

Sorry but the entire concept is a joke and is not newsworthy. (and it is also not a movement) It is no more prevalent now than it was when I was 16 years old.
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It has been around, yes...

But before social media, you just knew that in your 20 person workplace it was just Jeff and Stephanie that did that. You were unaware that it was as widespread as it is.

Social media has also shown many people how other things (pay, benefits, etc) are outside their company. That's a view that wasn't around before 2005 or so. Or at least as easily seen.

That's what the difference is now. People are acting on this.
 
RaceBoarder said:
It has been around, yes...

But before social media, you just knew that in your 20 person workplace it was just Jeff and Stephanie that did that. You were unaware that it was as widespread as it is.

Social media has also shown many people how other things (pay, benefits, etc) are outside their company. That's a view that wasn't around before 2005 or so. Or at least as easily seen.

That's what the difference is now. People are acting on this.
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I'm just going to disagree and leave it at that. To me that ranks up there with people who act like racism is worse now cause they see it more. It's naive.

(Speaking of the media not you)
 
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St. Clown said:
I deleted the app a couple days ago. I’m not contributing to his ad revenue.
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I just block the ads. My timeline looks so much better!

Now I'm just keeping it so I can watch it crash and burn. This is reminding me of when Parler was hacked and then it was found out the FBI was using it to find criminals.
 
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