Buffalo Bulls varsity men's ice hockey?

[LtPowers]

Re: Buffalo Bulls varsity men's ice hockey?

A Stanley Cup doesn't make up for 36 years of absentee ownership, Jeremy Jacobs can go to hell.

I can think of an awful lot of fans who'd be willing to trade if you don't want that Cup win.


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[komey1]

Re: Buffalo Bulls varsity men's ice hockey?

For that matter, I have stated before in other forums or on other boards that (I have been told) because of the league that Niagara plays in (and formerly played in), Niagara never successfully lands a recruit that is also being recruited by ECAC schools ... which is precisely why Niagara has always wanted to get into a better league - to improve its program.

I just think this league will be on par with what the CHA. It's an improvement from the AHA, but I don't see it being a major factor in hockey.

 

[5hole]

Re: Buffalo Bulls varsity men's ice hockey?

I just think this league will be on par with what the CHA. It's an improvement from the AHA, but I don't see it being a major factor in hockey.

I think those teams would at least have a chance of having an impact ... whereas the AHA does not have that chance so long as it remains a "cost-containment" league with its traditional bottom-feeders.

The problem with the CHA was primarily the geography although it usually did have a "problem" program or two, e.g., Findlay or Wayne State. By problem, I mean poor support from admin, no on-campus facility, etc.

The spread out geography of CHA impacted travel all season but always caused an issue in the tournament, especially with site selection and fan attendance. Geography would be no problem in the new conference, no comparison at all to the issues that CHA encountered, so strike that as a factor in your comparison.

If you take out Niagara and RoMo, the two members who would be common to both, then you need to compare the remaining programs ... RIT, BGSU, Canisius and UB(?) v. Wayne State, Findlay and probably AFA. WSU was competitive on the ice but had lots of support issues. AFA had good support but did not experience much on-ice success until moving to the AHA. Findlay was pretty much a disaster. Among the proposed, there is an unknown (UB?), and Canisius has issues but at least has a consistent history and support of admin.

Ali-in-all, I see only the weakest of comparisons to the old CHA.

 

[FerrisLives]

Re: Buffalo Bulls varsity men's ice hockey?

A conference of BGSU, RMU, Niagara, Canisius, Mercyhurst, Buffalo would have a lot of room for expansion as well. Heck, if the CHA had existed in this configuration a decade ago Findlay might arguably still be
playing the sport. But, this would be an ideal conference for any number of schools that have considered adding the sport: Oakland, Ohio U., Kent St., Eastern Michigan.

 

[MinnesotaNorthStar]

This is a rather circular argument - RIT knows that they have no shot at landing the cream of the crop who march inexorably to UND, BC, DU, etc. Those guys are never even on RIT's list. So saying that RIT gets the players they "want" does not mean that they recruit competitively for top talent - their list of wants only includes guys they think they can get in the first place. I'm not saying that 18 scholarships would make RIT competitive for BU's recruits overnight, but it would probably bring more guys into RIT's sphere of possibilities than are currently there now.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but RIT wouldn't be able to offer scharships in any league being that they are DIII, and moved up too late to be grandfathered in like CC.

 

[burgie12]

Re: Buffalo Bulls varsity men's ice hockey?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but RIT wouldn't be able to offer scharships in any league being that they are DIII, and moved up too late to be grandfathered in like CC.

You're right. And LynahFan is saying that even if they did have scholarships they still wouldn't be competing against BU / BC / UMinn for recruits overnight, but they would be able to raise the level of the recruits that they're going after and wouldn't have to bank on finding the diamonds in the rough to be competitive.

 

[LynahFan]

Re: Buffalo Bulls varsity men's ice hockey?

You're right. And LynahFan is saying that even if they did have scholarships they still wouldn't be competing against BU / BC / UMinn for recruits overnight, but they would be able to raise the level of the recruits that they're going after and wouldn't have to bank on finding the diamonds in the rough to be competitive.

Yes, exactly. Just a hypothetical (which can sadly not come true under the current rules). DIII schools willing to scrap it out with the "big boys" already have enough disadvantages - they ought to be allowed to give scholarships if they choose to.

 

[ClOuD 9]

Re: Buffalo Bulls varsity men's ice hockey?

I can think of an awful lot of fans who'd be willing to trade if you don't want that Cup win.

My statement != your statement