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BU Terriers 2018-19: Albie in Charge
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srsterrier
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... and shut out in three of those six games.
Thank you for noting “more prepared and better coached”. This is what I expected in the Quinn era I thought we were getting better then that with Albie. No one will say it here but Albie’s start is an utter embarrassment for a guy who waited his whole life for this opportunity. Only surpassed in ineptitude by the steadily declining career of Oettinger
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College Hockey News tweeted that it last happened in 1933-34.
College Hockey News tweeted that it last happened in 1933-34.
defkit
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Re: BU Terriers 2018-19: Albie in Charge
I know I should expect this extreme perspective, but I will point out that Quinn also was swept by Mankato last year (at home no less) and while losing to Merrimack is never expected, it does happen on occasion, especially in their own barn. More importantly, while the team needs to improve, Merrimack's goalie played one helluva game. I would be more concerned if we only got 20 shots.
And is the win over a team that has beaten Michigan, Notre Dame and Harvard completely dismissed???
I know I should expect this extreme perspective, but I will point out that Quinn also was swept by Mankato last year (at home no less) and while losing to Merrimack is never expected, it does happen on occasion, especially in their own barn. More importantly, while the team needs to improve, Merrimack's goalie played one helluva game. I would be more concerned if we only got 20 shots.
And is the win over a team that has beaten Michigan, Notre Dame and Harvard completely dismissed???
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Well, yeah. It didn't count.
And while one player doesn't make or break a team, I really feel they need Krys back. Though Brady Tkachuk could've been on the team last night as well as Krys and I don't think it would've mattered. Literally nothing went their way last night. It was pretty miserable.
Well, yeah. It didn't count.
And while one player doesn't make or break a team, I really feel they need Krys back. Though Brady Tkachuk could've been on the team last night as well as Krys and I don't think it would've mattered. Literally nothing went their way last night. It was pretty miserable.
Vaportrail
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why again did bu hire the union coach?!?!?!?!!?
Coach of the 4-0-1 non-scholarship, 2,200 student school that just swept Northeastern at Matthews? Time for a do-over already?
brassbonanza
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The coach who won a title with a team laden with upperclassmen recruited by Leaman. The coach who, since Leaman's recruits graduated...
- Has made one NCAA Tournament and lost that game
- Has zero ECAC Tournament titles and one shared regular season title
- Has multiple .500 seasons
Time for an overreaction already?
Coach of the 4-0-1 non-scholarship, 2,200 student school that just swept Northeastern at Matthews? Time for a do-over already?
The coach who won a title with a team laden with upperclassmen recruited by Leaman. The coach who, since Leaman's recruits graduated...
- Has made one NCAA Tournament and lost that game
- Has zero ECAC Tournament titles and one shared regular season title
- Has multiple .500 seasons
Time for an overreaction already?
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Saying that Quinn also got swept is pretty much making my point for me. Yes I expected the team would come out hard for a new coach. They haven’t.
mookie1995
there's a good buck in that racket.
mookie1995
there's a good buck in that racket.
defkit
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Re: BU Terriers 2018-19: Albie in Charge
My opinion is that the issue is not that they aren't "coming out hard" - I thought the effort was there against Merrimack (I didn't watch the Mankato games). The problems were: 1) out of synch, which in my opinion is not unheard of for teams with so many freshmen 2) Merrimack's goalie had a very strong game, certainly stronger than ours, though I wouldn't have called Oettinger's performance poor.
Maybe it is the coaching, but I am not concerned yet. And I don't care if Albie wins 10 games this year, I will always consider the decision not to hire Union's coach a good one.
My opinion is that the issue is not that they aren't "coming out hard" - I thought the effort was there against Merrimack (I didn't watch the Mankato games). The problems were: 1) out of synch, which in my opinion is not unheard of for teams with so many freshmen 2) Merrimack's goalie had a very strong game, certainly stronger than ours, though I wouldn't have called Oettinger's performance poor.
Maybe it is the coaching, but I am not concerned yet. And I don't care if Albie wins 10 games this year, I will always consider the decision not to hire Union's coach a good one.
brassbonanza
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It didn't help that BU played a hard-fought game the night before and Merrimack didn't play Friday. Merrimack was noticeably quicker in the first period than BU. That said, there were definitely some strategic missteps on Saturday. I can't figure out how Cloonan is on the second line with Bobo when he hasn't scored a goal in three years. He was a significant liability in the one game he played in Mankato, so I'd argue he has to earn his lineup spot - which can't be on the second line. The PP looks disorganized, especially the second line which is suffering without the presence of Krys. The PK isn't great right now either. Pretty much everything that could go wrong Saturday night did go wrong. Their goalie made zero mistakes and overperformed his expected ability, we whiffed on some wide open chances, the puck bounced over sticks other times, and our freshmen had a lot of trouble adjusting to the tiny rink. That style of play was a complete 180 from the wide open run and gun game on Friday. Hopefully a useful learning experience for everyone on the BU bench, but I'm not sure it's time yet to say the sky is falling.
It didn't help that BU played a hard-fought game the night before and Merrimack didn't play Friday. Merrimack was noticeably quicker in the first period than BU. That said, there were definitely some strategic missteps on Saturday. I can't figure out how Cloonan is on the second line with Bobo when he hasn't scored a goal in three years. He was a significant liability in the one game he played in Mankato, so I'd argue he has to earn his lineup spot - which can't be on the second line. The PP looks disorganized, especially the second line which is suffering without the presence of Krys. The PK isn't great right now either. Pretty much everything that could go wrong Saturday night did go wrong. Their goalie made zero mistakes and overperformed his expected ability, we whiffed on some wide open chances, the puck bounced over sticks other times, and our freshmen had a lot of trouble adjusting to the tiny rink. That style of play was a complete 180 from the wide open run and gun game on Friday. Hopefully a useful learning experience for everyone on the BU bench, but I'm not sure it's time yet to say the sky is falling.
Friend_of_BU_Hockey
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Judging by some of the overreaction, one might think the criticism is more towards DQ's lingering fingerprints on the program, with Albie as an extension of that by association.
How many of us *realistically* thought BU was going to get off to a 3-0 start? And look like world-beaters doing so? And attributing all of it to the coaching change?
They're a talented but a young, immature (from a hockey standpoint) team lacking depth. Starting the season w/ 3 road games vs. 2 older, mature, physical teams was a tough task, and proved that this BU team is even more so a work in progress than many of us thought. But to point the gun at a head coach 3 games into the season is a bit extreme, IMO. Even if that HC was Rick Bennett and not Albie.
Judging by some of the overreaction, one might think the criticism is more towards DQ's lingering fingerprints on the program, with Albie as an extension of that by association.
How many of us *realistically* thought BU was going to get off to a 3-0 start? And look like world-beaters doing so? And attributing all of it to the coaching change?
They're a talented but a young, immature (from a hockey standpoint) team lacking depth. Starting the season w/ 3 road games vs. 2 older, mature, physical teams was a tough task, and proved that this BU team is even more so a work in progress than many of us thought. But to point the gun at a head coach 3 games into the season is a bit extreme, IMO. Even if that HC was Rick Bennett and not Albie.
Nick Papagiorgio
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That's usually what happens with exhibitions... yes. Unless you die like Apollo Creed in Rocky IV (RIP
).
Don't get too upset guys, we suck too.
That's usually what happens with exhibitions... yes. Unless you die like Apollo Creed in Rocky IV (RIP
).Don't get too upset guys, we suck too.
Friend_of_BU_Hockey
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Out of the Beanpot schools, at least Harvard's undefeated
Out of the Beanpot schools, at least Harvard's undefeated
That's usually what happens with exhibitions... yes. Unless you die like Apollo Creed in Rocky IV (RIP
Don't get too upset guys, we suck too.
As have HEA teams overall in OOC games so far.
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But you could have potentially seen Rick Bennett lose his **** and attack a Hockey East coach at center ice...
I can't recall BC ever playing an exhibition and then a real game the next night. That is an interesting dynamic. No idea when that exhibition game was booked but did you guys throw out all of your regulars in the exhibition game? It's early in the season so I can understand if you did, wanting those guys to get used to playing with each other etc but as a coach you have to have in the back of your mind that you are starting league play the next night.
But you could have potentially seen Rick Bennett lose his **** and attack a Hockey East coach at center ice...
I can't recall BC ever playing an exhibition and then a real game the next night. That is an interesting dynamic. No idea when that exhibition game was booked but did you guys throw out all of your regulars in the exhibition game? It's early in the season so I can understand if you did, wanting those guys to get used to playing with each other etc but as a coach you have to have in the back of your mind that you are starting league play the next night.
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I have no inside knowledge, but I'm guessing we didn't have much choice. Since they are traveling all over the country I'm sure they had to take advantage of whatever "available" dates were open, and a team like BU was probably told, "Well, it's either this night or nothing. So if you want to play us, this is the only option because we will be in [insert location here] the next night..." So they took the game. They probably reasoned that playing the game would be more beneficial to the team in the long run, and from what everyone is saying that they were the "fastest team we will probably play all year," it seems to make sense.
Just looking quickly at their schedule, these are the games they have each month:
September: 7
October: 12
November: 7
December: 9
January: 13
February: 6
March: 12
April: 6
So that's 72 games - almost an entire NHL schedule. I'd say that doesn't allow much leeway...
I have no inside knowledge, but I'm guessing we didn't have much choice. Since they are traveling all over the country I'm sure they had to take advantage of whatever "available" dates were open, and a team like BU was probably told, "Well, it's either this night or nothing. So if you want to play us, this is the only option because we will be in [insert location here] the next night..." So they took the game. They probably reasoned that playing the game would be more beneficial to the team in the long run, and from what everyone is saying that they were the "fastest team we will probably play all year," it seems to make sense.
Just looking quickly at their schedule, these are the games they have each month:
September: 7
October: 12
November: 7
December: 9
January: 13
February: 6
March: 12
April: 6
So that's 72 games - almost an entire NHL schedule. I'd say that doesn't allow much leeway...
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