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BU season thread volume 3.1 cause board/priceless/tippycanoe deleted ours

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RoughEmUp said:
Looks like I am in the distinct minority here, but I absolutely want the BU coach to have a degree. I assume the coach will consistently push student athletes to make solid progress towards a degree, and their credibility would be shot without holding a degree themselves.

Further, I would like to see more coaches make the effort to attain an Ed.M in coaching, or sports psychology, or development...something along those lines. Coaching could be so much better if they brought an educator’s or psychologist’s training to bear in addition to having “played the game” and “paid their dues” through the traditional paradigm.
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Sounds like college administrator talk.

Extra degrees is not a guarantee that anyone could coach their way out of a paper bag.

How many NHL head coaches have college degrees?
 
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Harry Cleverly said:
Sounds like college administrator talk.

Extra degrees is not a guarantee that anyone could coach their way out of a paper bag.

How many NHL head coaches have college degrees?
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Three that I know of. :)
 
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BU Fan 84 said:
I personally have wondered how much he was responsible for the ****ty first half of this past season. Just curious that he comes on and all of a sudden the quality of play plummets as compared to the past few seasons? I was told by some folks that no, I am wrong, he is really well-respected and highly regarded, but I don't know .... He certainly never had much success in wins and losses as a coach. Prior to Quinn leaving, I was hoping Len would not be back. Hopefully that is more likely now.
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Pretty difficult to singularly pin a bad first half of the season on the lowest assistant coach on the staff. If his impact on the team is that substantial that the head coach and associate head coach (or the team itself) all cannot overcome any gap in his ability then that's a problem with the had coach and associate head coach. I really doubt his impact was as significant as you suggest.
 
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This is the NCAA and like it or not its college sports and academics should matter. If I am hiring a coach he has to have a degree or his preaching to students about getting an education and go to classes will fall on deaf ears.
 
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Bomber said:
Wodon article on BU's Questionable Process.

https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2018/06/06_BU-Process-Begs-Some-Questions.php
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Really irresponsible of him to say that BU <i>"never treated these candidacies seriously."</i> How does HE know that? They may have had legitimate reasons for not moving forward with them. You don't always have to bring someone in for an interview to demonstrate that you are "taking them seriously." I hope that he also substantiated his claim that they <i>"chose not to seriously discuss the job with a number of experienced, viable candidates"</i> by actually going to them and asking them.
 
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chickod said:
Really irresponsible of him to say that BU <i>"never treated these candidacies seriously."</i> How does HE know that? They may have had legitimate reasons for not moving forward with them. You don't always have to bring someone in for an interview to demonstrate that you are "taking them seriously." I hope that he also substantiated his claim that they <i>"chose not to seriously discuss the job with a number of experienced, viable candidates"</i> by actually going to them and asking them.
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Wodon is the same guy to delete a tweet saying LIU-Brooklyn was adding women's hockey this week....HACK
 
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Bomber said:
Wodon article on BU's Questionable Process.

https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2018/06/06_BU-Process-Begs-Some-Questions.php
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Wodon has been so bent out of shape over this. Kinda pathetic IMO for an editor-in-chief of one of the 2 major college hockey news outlets.

The article is filled with conjecture and is all style, zero substance. He's also been shameless in his attempts towards baiting the BU fan base to respond.

"I have close ties with so many of their alumni and past and present employees that it's always seemed like a second home"

This is quite the self-pat-on-the-back, esp. given that I've been close enough to the program long enough to know that this is an exaggeration at best, downright lie at worst. It's a shame b/c I once respected his work; he now comes across like a desperate, angry, jilted hack trying to make a story that isn't really there.
 
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chickod said:
Really irresponsible of him to say that BU <i>"never treated these candidacies seriously."</i> How does HE know that? They may have had legitimate reasons for not moving forward with them. You don't always have to bring someone in for an interview to demonstrate that you are "taking them seriously." I hope that he also substantiated his claim that they <i>"chose not to seriously discuss the job with a number of experienced, viable candidates"</i> by actually going to them and asking them.
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Bingo. There have been zero on-the-record quotes from any of the candidates. Seems like Wodon has been grasping at straws for days based on 2nd hand info as well as his own imagination.

And to Sean's point earlier, the DU situation was very similar, yet where's the criticism against DU? Or when Brad Berry was promoted almost immediately after Hakstol left NoDak?

It's quite the interesting agenda he seems to be pushing.
 
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Bomber said:
Wodon article on BU's Questionable Process.

https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2018/06/06_BU-Process-Begs-Some-Questions.php

" I was told that Hynes put word to Marochello through back channels that he'd at least be willing to talk about the job. Not that he'd necessarily go, but wanted to at least discuss it. That conversation never took place."
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If someone was really interested in the job, wouldn't it seem the thing to do would be to contact Marochello directly rather than "putting word through back channels"?
 
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ericredaxe said:
If someone was really interested in the job, wouldn't it seem the thing to do would be to contact Marochello directly rather than "putting word through back channels"?
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Hynes is already under contract with a team in a higher league. Imagine how ****ed his bosses would be if they heard he was interested in skipping out on his contract to take a lesser job for less money. If you put out a couple feelers through "back channels," your bosses are probably not going to find out about it and you can deny ever having spoken to anyone at BU if they do find out about it. Of course, now that Wodon has been reporting on it ....
 
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brassbonanza said:
Pretty difficult to singularly pin a bad first half of the season on the lowest assistant coach on the staff. If his impact on the team is that substantial that the head coach and associate head coach (or the team itself) all cannot overcome any gap in his ability then that's a problem with the had coach and associate head coach. I really doubt his impact was as significant as you suggest.
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I didn't say he was singularly responsible for it. I said I wondered about his role in it, how much was his fault.
 
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Rogie21 said:
That's a pretty irresponsible statement. You say some people told you he is well-respected, but where is anything specific to back up the suggestion that he was responsible for a mediocre first half? We see enough claims backed up by nothing from a big white house in D.C.
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I guess you can't read? I said I wondered how much he was responsible for it. As in, I don't know. I didn't make any claims. But let's not deny that this was a guy who did not have much success as a coach, he's the new one around the team, and poor results followed immediately.

And please, everyone here knows the first half was terrible, not mediocre.
 
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BU Fan 84 said:
Hynes is already under contract with a team in a higher league. Imagine how ****ed his bosses would be if they heard he was interested in skipping out on his contract to take a lesser job for less money. If you put out a couple feelers through "back channels," your bosses are probably not going to find out about it and you can deny ever having spoken to anyone at BU if they do find out about it. Of course, now that Wodon has been reporting on it ....
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The Hynes situation is very puzzling. He just took his team to the playoffs and has a decent roster to build on, yet he's looking to take a lower-paying college head coaching job? I wrote before, if I'm the AD when I receive that phone call my first reaction is what's the catch? Too good to be true.
 
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And in other news, it’s being reported that Josh Lawrence has decommitted and will play in the Q. That should not be a big surprise based on where he was drafted.
 
brassbonanza said:
The Hynes situation is very puzzling. He just took his team to the playoffs and has a decent roster to build on, yet he's looking to take a lower-paying college head coaching job? I wrote before, if I'm the AD when I receive that phone call my first reaction is what's the catch? Too good to be true.
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I think it’s possible that some people would find the BU job a better one than the NJ Devils job. Money is the obvious NHL advantage, but If someone can make ends meet on say, $500k/year, I could see how the list of pros and cons tilts in BUs favor. The security and legacy one could build at BU shouldn’t be lightly dismissed.
 
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