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BU Season Thread II: The Resurgence
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I guess I'm not getting your drift...must be too late at night...ND is #32 in the pairwise
I guess I'm not getting your drift...must be too late at night...ND is #32 in the pairwise
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I think this is a very good BU team. But, I also know that they have had some trouble "finishing." Usually experience takes care of that, and the reality is they don't have a lot of it. Is it heresy to say that perhaps they're a year away? If so, it's really critical that they can keep their core players together another year. Kinda sad about college sports these days...these guys hardly are around long enough for a cup of coffee. Not as much fun for the fans to savor.
I think this is a very good BU team. But, I also know that they have had some trouble "finishing." Usually experience takes care of that, and the reality is they don't have a lot of it. Is it heresy to say that perhaps they're a year away? If so, it's really critical that they can keep their core players together another year. Kinda sad about college sports these days...these guys hardly are around long enough for a cup of coffee. Not as much fun for the fans to savor.
****. I told their caddy to fix that. He's fired.
Is Danny O hurt? His play of late suggests that. Discuss.
Jeff Jackson always fives 'em fits. I want nothing to do with ND in the playoffs.
brassbonanza
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I haven't noticed anything that would suggest he is. Snakebitten? Yes.
I haven't noticed anything that would suggest he is. Snakebitten? Yes.
sterlippo1
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pssst, wake up! the game is over
pssst, wake up! the game is over
Terrier520
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A terrible loss for PWR. Looks like top 4 might be gone for good. Even if BU takes 6 points from NU, it's not going to help flip many comparisons against the teams ahead of us. And, as of now, there's no one we'd play in the second round who'd be of much help, either.
A terrible loss for PWR. Looks like top 4 might be gone for good. Even if BU takes 6 points from NU, it's not going to help flip many comparisons against the teams ahead of us. And, as of now, there's no one we'd play in the second round who'd be of much help, either.
Agreed worst weekend of the year in a lot of ways . Really came up small in a big situation which isn't a good sign for the next month. Pucks rolling off sticks hitting posts missing nets late period goals bad penalties is not being snakebiten or puck luck. This isn't a three year plan most or all of their best players may be gone next year, it's about making the best title run they can now and for the last couple of weeks they are failing.
mookie1995
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Mookie was talking about coaching presence -- DQ seemed to want to over think matchups. During one "TV timeout" last night he even had all the guys sit on the bench thinking it wouldn't give anything away to JJ. DQ relied too much in his top lines when as of late scoring has become a little more spread out.
JJ also laid the framework for teams wanting to ****** bu's pp--spread out the box towards the top. They were able to pressure the top of the umbrella all weekend and negate our boys pp output. If Madigan is worth his salt he is having nu walk through this today in prep for the next 6 days of hockey..... DQ better be doing the same
Mookie was talking about coaching presence -- DQ seemed to want to over think matchups. During one "TV timeout" last night he even had all the guys sit on the bench thinking it wouldn't give anything away to JJ. DQ relied too much in his top lines when as of late scoring has become a little more spread out.
JJ also laid the framework for teams wanting to ****** bu's pp--spread out the box towards the top. They were able to pressure the top of the umbrella all weekend and negate our boys pp output. If Madigan is worth his salt he is having nu walk through this today in prep for the next 6 days of hockey..... DQ better be doing the same
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Interesting observation (I get what you meant now)...Remember, he's only in his second year. He might be intimidated by Jackson (and rightfully so if you look at what we have done against the guy). Remember 1993 in Milwaukee? Sometimes matchups just aren't good. Using your analogy, the Patriots (your favorite team
) almost didn't make the AFC Championship because they always have trouble with the Ravens. But lousy teams beat the Ravens every year. It's just a bad matchup for the Pats. Well, Jeff Jackson is a bad matchup for BU. So, yes, maybe he WAS "overthinking," as Rodney Harrison said that teams do when they play the Patriots (of course, we're never going to know what really happened on that call and we won't bore everyone on this thread with that discussion). But my question is, can you blame him? Obviously they weren't winning against a team that was (at the time) 31 places below them in the PWR.
Interesting observation (I get what you meant now)...Remember, he's only in his second year. He might be intimidated by Jackson (and rightfully so if you look at what we have done against the guy). Remember 1993 in Milwaukee? Sometimes matchups just aren't good. Using your analogy, the Patriots (your favorite team
) almost didn't make the AFC Championship because they always have trouble with the Ravens. But lousy teams beat the Ravens every year. It's just a bad matchup for the Pats. Well, Jeff Jackson is a bad matchup for BU. So, yes, maybe he WAS "overthinking," as Rodney Harrison said that teams do when they play the Patriots (of course, we're never going to know what really happened on that call and we won't bore everyone on this thread with that discussion). But my question is, can you blame him? Obviously they weren't winning against a team that was (at the time) 31 places below them in the PWR.Re: BU Season Thread II: The Resurgence
The thing is, I hear coaches all the time say we're going to "just play our game," regardless of the competition. To me, this is short-sighted. It's not just about talent, it's also about strategy. That's why all this obsession with the NFL Combine is ridiculous, IMO. Same with hockey. It's not whether the guy has a 101 mph slap shot or 106 mph. Big deal. It's how you UTILIZE the talent. So being obstinate and just "sticking with our game" doesn't always work. Quinn probably sensed that (and there's no need to speculate why...I already did that in my post above....I think it's a lack of experience) and felt as though he needed to "make adjustments." We had a high school football coach who was interviewed the night before the "big game" on local radio. The team we were playing was impossible to run against. Our team was pretty good at passing. The guy asked, "Are you going to change your game plan going into this game?" Our coach replied, "NO, we're gonna run right at 'em, Joe!" Yup. First play guy gets stuffed for a three yard loss and it went downhill from there. We got murdered... 35-8. And the 8 was at the end. Sometimes you gotta adjust...
The thing is, I hear coaches all the time say we're going to "just play our game," regardless of the competition. To me, this is short-sighted. It's not just about talent, it's also about strategy. That's why all this obsession with the NFL Combine is ridiculous, IMO. Same with hockey. It's not whether the guy has a 101 mph slap shot or 106 mph. Big deal. It's how you UTILIZE the talent. So being obstinate and just "sticking with our game" doesn't always work. Quinn probably sensed that (and there's no need to speculate why...I already did that in my post above....I think it's a lack of experience) and felt as though he needed to "make adjustments." We had a high school football coach who was interviewed the night before the "big game" on local radio. The team we were playing was impossible to run against. Our team was pretty good at passing. The guy asked, "Are you going to change your game plan going into this game?" Our coach replied, "NO, we're gonna run right at 'em, Joe!" Yup. First play guy gets stuffed for a three yard loss and it went downhill from there. We got murdered... 35-8. And the 8 was at the end. Sometimes you gotta adjust...
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Exactly right, which is why I posted last night a couple above yours. Unfortunately, college hockey has become like Canadian Juniors. It's just a stepping-stone to the NHL. It's starting to get dangerously like football. In the old days you had a relatively small number of schools playing. Most players graduated and were there primarily to get a degree for real life after college. Hockey was more of an "avocation." It seems like the bigger things get, the more corrupt they become (not really the word I'm looking for but you get the point). There is no continuity or cohesiveness anymore. It's become like the salary cap. Like a computer game where you play general manager and try to put together the best team. And then next year you erase the file and start over. I'm not saying we can (or even should) change it. It's just the way it is, but it's disappointing for those of us who want to see a team mature, jell, meld, grow together (whatever word you want to use). The "one and done" just isn't much fun for the fans. I'm not playing moral judge here, just expressing how frustrating this is. Imagine being in DQ's shoes. The pressure to win when you have "the team" and you know it's going to be decimated the next year must be immense. And I know I'm risking having the BC people come on here and say "Well, the players stay four years at OUR school...na..na...nana...na." I get it that you can't bypass millions of dollars because your career could end at any time and you have to take the money when you can. And you probably can't "prohibit" players from going to the pros because it is probably unconstitutional (or whatever). It's just not as much fun anymore...that's all.
Exactly right, which is why I posted last night a couple above yours. Unfortunately, college hockey has become like Canadian Juniors. It's just a stepping-stone to the NHL. It's starting to get dangerously like football. In the old days you had a relatively small number of schools playing. Most players graduated and were there primarily to get a degree for real life after college. Hockey was more of an "avocation." It seems like the bigger things get, the more corrupt they become (not really the word I'm looking for but you get the point). There is no continuity or cohesiveness anymore. It's become like the salary cap. Like a computer game where you play general manager and try to put together the best team. And then next year you erase the file and start over. I'm not saying we can (or even should) change it. It's just the way it is, but it's disappointing for those of us who want to see a team mature, jell, meld, grow together (whatever word you want to use). The "one and done" just isn't much fun for the fans. I'm not playing moral judge here, just expressing how frustrating this is. Imagine being in DQ's shoes. The pressure to win when you have "the team" and you know it's going to be decimated the next year must be immense. And I know I'm risking having the BC people come on here and say "Well, the players stay four years at OUR school...na..na...nana...na." I get it that you can't bypass millions of dollars because your career could end at any time and you have to take the money when you can. And you probably can't "prohibit" players from going to the pros because it is probably unconstitutional (or whatever). It's just not as much fun anymore...that's all.
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Since Christmas BU is 8-3-3 not bad and BC is 9-3-2 a tic better. Does anyone know where the two teams were to start the calendar year in PWR. Point being I think that poor loss to BC at home had a huge impact in why they are only two places apart. Another case where BU at home came out weakly against a big opponent down 3-0 early same as last night 2-0 and the Harvard Beanpot game (might as well been a home game). Too frequent a problem.
Since Christmas BU is 8-3-3 not bad and BC is 9-3-2 a tic better. Does anyone know where the two teams were to start the calendar year in PWR. Point being I think that poor loss to BC at home had a huge impact in why they are only two places apart. Another case where BU at home came out weakly against a big opponent down 3-0 early same as last night 2-0 and the Harvard Beanpot game (might as well been a home game). Too frequent a problem.
brassbonanza
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Trying to forecast PWR at this point is not worth it, far too many results to come.
Trying to forecast PWR at this point is not worth it, far too many results to come.
mookie1995
there's a good buck in that racket.
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bu will be in providence or manchvegas. that's all that matters.
bu will be in providence or manchvegas. that's all that matters.
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I don't think that was Jofa's point. I know I feel this way too. All season they have been playing with fire. They "turn it on" in the third period when they have to. But you can't get away with that forever. And I just don't understand what it is about BU teams...why they just can't play hard for 60 minutes and dominate the teams they should dominate. Why is it always life and death, down to the wire? Even in 2009 they had to score those three goals in a row in the Hockey East semi against BC with less than ten minutes to go in the game, or else they would have lost that one. In fact, that whole season the games were much closer than they should have been. I think what he's saying is that they're where they are in the PWR because, frankly, they haven't played like a top 4 team. That's not placing blame...that's just a fact. If you (not "you" personally, but "you" collectively - maybe I should say "if one is going to...") are going to argue against that then what you are really saying is that they're not as good as we think. A sobering thought right before the playoffs. What he's saying is that losing to Harvard and BC earlier in the year is the reason why they are not in the top 4. You have to play at a high level all season. He wasn't forecasting the PWR, he was just saying that eventually things even out by the end of the season and BU is probably not a top 4 team. Which doesn't mean they still can't win it all, because, as we know, plenty of teams have come from further down and won. Just saying that they really don't deserve to be where they were if they can't beat a team 30 places below them in the PWR at least once in two tries at home.
I don't think that was Jofa's point. I know I feel this way too. All season they have been playing with fire. They "turn it on" in the third period when they have to. But you can't get away with that forever. And I just don't understand what it is about BU teams...why they just can't play hard for 60 minutes and dominate the teams they should dominate. Why is it always life and death, down to the wire? Even in 2009 they had to score those three goals in a row in the Hockey East semi against BC with less than ten minutes to go in the game, or else they would have lost that one. In fact, that whole season the games were much closer than they should have been. I think what he's saying is that they're where they are in the PWR because, frankly, they haven't played like a top 4 team. That's not placing blame...that's just a fact. If you (not "you" personally, but "you" collectively - maybe I should say "if one is going to...") are going to argue against that then what you are really saying is that they're not as good as we think. A sobering thought right before the playoffs. What he's saying is that losing to Harvard and BC earlier in the year is the reason why they are not in the top 4. You have to play at a high level all season. He wasn't forecasting the PWR, he was just saying that eventually things even out by the end of the season and BU is probably not a top 4 team. Which doesn't mean they still can't win it all, because, as we know, plenty of teams have come from further down and won. Just saying that they really don't deserve to be where they were if they can't beat a team 30 places below them in the PWR at least once in two tries at home.
buoldtimer
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Why no Baillargeon last night?
Why no Baillargeon last night?
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