BU Recruiting Update, Part 3

[defkit]

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I thought we only brought in 22 yo freshmen?!?!?

I actually think it is pretty interesting how the USNDTP is really the only way you end up with guys that aren't 19 or 20 as freshmen. These guys are considered the best in their age group, and yet they come in and have to complete with guys 4 or 5 years older than them, which in some sense should neutralize that advantage, at least initially. And yet many of them still excel right away in college.

 

[mookie1995]

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I actually think it is pretty interesting how the USNDTP is really the only way you end up with guys that aren't 19 or 20 as freshmen. These guys are considered the best in their age group, and yet they come in and have to complete with guys 4 or 5 years older than them, which in some sense should neutralize that advantage, at least initially. And yet many of them still excel right away in college.

they compete against these same colleges (exhibitions to our boys) and overaged (by comparison) in the ushl. so it's something they are used to doing a year earlier.

 

[Rogie21]

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they compete against these same colleges (exhibitions to our boys) and overaged (by comparison) in the ushl. so it's something they are used to doing a year earlier.

The U17s also play a USHL schedule--tho they usually lose--plus tournaments against European all-star teams and the World U17 Challenge.

 

[pirate]

excellent post and all true, IMO

I would add that in all sports it seems that when a team starts to stand alone ahead o the pack it drives the other schools to work harder and some kids are sold on the possibility of more playing time, the challenge of comin in and being the guys that raise another school to that height so they may be more open to attending kentucky instead o duke, Oregon instead of USC etc. but, In football those schools lookin up at Florida or USC or Texas when they were dominant are only a few recruits away from closing the gap.

 

[SteveF]

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Apparently, that question was answered to the Eichels’ satisfaction, which is all that matters.



So while stuck on hold with HP, I did look it up. Nope, no similar question asked about Hannifin, altho in the same timeframe you did manage to post a snarky comment about an “older” UML recruit.

And while the hold time dragged on, I peeked in on Eagle Action and—surprise, surprise—there you were, chest-pounding about irking BU re whether Eichel ever reports. Probably earned a round of guffaws from the regulars. Were you awarded another Pinhead Nation achievement sticker on the spot?

what is a bigger problem for bu:

getting eichel on campus or getting alex off campus?

 

[mookie1995]

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I would add that in all sports it seems that when a team starts to stand alone ahead o the pack it drives the other schools to work harder and some kids are sold on the possibility of more playing time, the challenge of comin in and being the guys that raise another school to that height so they may be more open to attending kentucky instead o duke, Oregon instead of USC etc. but, In football those schools lookin up at Florida or USC or Texas when they were dominant are only a few recruits away from closing the gap.

the anti-lebron syndrome??

 

[ericredaxe]

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but, In football those schools lookin up at Florida or USC or Texas when they were dominant are only a few recruits away from closing the gap.

I'd suggest that a few of the right recruits can have much more of an impact in hockey than in football... even moreso in basketball.

 

[pirate]

I'd suggest that a few of the right recruits can have much more of an impact in hockey than in football... even moreso in basketball.

I agree, while one Vince Young or Tebow can have a big impact in football, a great scorer or goalie has more impact on hockey.

 

[Boston22]

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what is a bigger problem for bu:

getting eichel on campus or getting alex off campus?

Who's Alex?

 

[carltonbarrett]

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Ton of kids would go to BU over BC, laughable to think other wise. Charlie Coyle for one. Davi Warsofsky.

You now have
Eichel, by far the top F at his age, no one else even close.
McLeod on D, National dev program kid, by far the best 96 D in this area.
O'Regan, who was star at world tourn last week
Matt Grzelczyk-LD, natl team, very very good.
Sam Kurker, top 35 central scouting
Kevin Duane, 6'4" 215 had over 60 pts at Brunswick school, ct kid with several bc players in his backyard

These are 6 locals who are as good as anyone BC has coming in. At least 3 of whom could be high nhl picks

BU's demise is greatly exagerated

Am sure York isn't losing too much sleep with guys like Matheson, Savage, Santini, Hanafin, Piazza & Casey Fitzpatrick coming in on D over next few years, not to mention a few pretty good forwards as well.

 

[Bumbles]

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Am sure York isn't losing too much sleep with guys like Matheson, Savage, Santini, Hanafin, Piazza & Casey Fitzpatrick coming in on D over next few years, not to mention a few pretty good forwards as well.

Agreed. I mean that is why I think BC has had so much success- they consistently have one of the best d-corps in the nation year in and year out. While on the other side, I think the D is one of BU's biggest weaknesses.

 

[Hokydad]

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Agreed. I mean that is why I think BC has had so much success- they consistently have one of the best d-corps in the nation year in and year out. While on the other side, I think the D is one of BU's biggest weaknesses.

No one said he was losing any sleep. Why would he.

That wasnt the point. The point is he made matching offers to those Eichel, McLeod etc and lost out. All very high end local talent that was not coming there recently. If you dont think he wanted Eichel you are wrong,. Better then any forward BC has coming in and in their pipeline.

It is Casey Fitzgerald, not Fitzpatrick.

They do have a very nice d corp coming inb. D has not been their strength over past decade, they won with F's.

Cross came into his own and Dumoulin was a blue chipper+. This was a F driven team with very good goal tending. Before this leaving group, also not their strength

Couple years ago BU had 5 better then anyone at BC on the blueline.

 

[Agganis]

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Agreed. I mean that is why I think BC has had so much success- they consistently have one of the best d-corps in the nation year in and year out. While on the other side, I think the D is one of BU's biggest weaknesses.

I would go the opposite actually. Since Quinn's first couple recruits BU has had, on average, a better Defensive group than BC each year, with some exceptions obviously. While BC has had, on average, a better 4 lines of forwards, with just one exception IMO.

But this is like the argument of which conference is better, you may put more weight on different aspects than I am.

 

[carltonbarrett]

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Eichel is no doubt a better pro prospect than anyone that BC has coming in at Forward, but that does not automatically translate into NCAA stardom. I'll take guys like Cangelosi, Fitzgerald, Richardson, Colin White, Gaudreau, Atkinson, Gerbe, Voce, BEaves, Gionta, etc that are later round picks because of their stature and thus tend to stay for 3-4 years and also tend to take less time to adjust because of their size. They have similar skills and moves as Eichel, just not the size. If Eichel is as good as they say, he's there 1, maybe 2 years at best, so again, I'll take the guys BC has lined up being that this the NCAA not the NHL.

 

[Hokydad]

Eichel is no doubt a better pro prospect than anyone that BC has coming in at Forward, but that does not automatically translate into NCAA stardom. I'll take guys like Cangelosi, Fitzgerald, Richardson, Colin White, Gaudreau, Atkinson, Gerbe, Voce, BEaves, Gionta, etc that are later round picks because of their stature and thus tend to stay for 3-4 years and also tend to take less time to adjust because of their size. They have similar skills and moves as Eichel, just not the size. If Eichel is as good as they say, he's there 1, maybe 2 years at best, so again, I'll take the guys BC has lined up being that this the NCAA not the NHL.[/

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Good point

 

[buoldtimer]

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Who's Alex?

Alex is one of SteveF's previous personae on this site.

 

[Scarlet]

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Alex is one of SteveF's previous personae on this site.

No, SteveF thinks Alex is a Rogie alter ego.

 

[Boston22]

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So Hokydad, we are all still waiting to hear the third bad thing to come at BU. Right after Coyle left and Trivino was dismissed, you said there was something else bad that was going to happen. And, no, the Nicastro fiasco doesn't count-- as no one could have predicted that.

Is the third thing still going to occur?

 

[Hokydad]

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So Hokydad, we are all still waiting to hear the third bad thing to come at BU. Right after Coyle left and Trivino was dismissed, you said there was something else bad that was going to happen. And, no, the Nicastro fiasco doesn't count-- as no one could have predicted that.

Is the third thing still going to occur?

nope, all is well on comm ave..

 

[BUTerrierfan]

nope, all is well on comm ave..

I had heard that a current player or perhaps 2 might still be a flight risk. Any word or is that complete fabrication?