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BU 2021-22: Albie's Great Adventure

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ericredaxe said:
I agree with JD…. Seems like a bit of an odd move. Why did he leave? Did he have that much allegiance to Albie?
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Agreed ASU wasn't where I thought Mastro would end up.

I don't think this has anything to do with the coaching situation as much as the scholarship allocation for next year's BU roster. It's believed the allocation for next season was done so under the expectation Mastro would turn pro after this season. When that didn't happen and when BU presumably couldn't piece together enough scholarship money to retain him, it triggered the decision to enter the transfer portal.
 
Interesting comments in the Wodon piece - he says that technically Albie was indeed fired. A contract is not required to be in the job, it is just something that is often put in place. So a contract expiring does not mean that the coach is no longer the coach (see Michigan). It just means that there isn't a contract in place at the moment laying out any employment specifics (just like most of us peasants).

Pandolfo - I am fine if it is him. I hope the column indicating that he isn't the quiet guy we all think he is, is accurate. At this point I just want things to come together, and hope that no recruits go elsewhere.

Mastro - very interesting. I would have thought there would have been suitors in more traditional programs/conferences that had scholly's available, given all the portal activity. Perhaps not.
 
Friend_of_BU_Hockey said:
Agreed ASU wasn't where I thought Mastro would end up.

I don't think this has anything to do with the coaching situation as much as the scholarship allocation for next year's BU roster. It's believed the allocation for next season was done so under the expectation Mastro would turn pro after this season. When that didn't happen and when BU presumably couldn't piece together enough scholarship money to retain him, it triggered the decision to enter the transfer portal.
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I've been told similar information to this, that his situation is based primarily on lack of available scholarship because BU expected him to go pro this year.
 
Mastro was drafted in 2019 - he can become a free agent next summer, no? I wonder if he wanted to stay in school so he can choose where he goes. Maybe he'll be another NY guy who forces their way to the Rangers, like Fox...
 
Terrier86 said:
NIL money?
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I think you'd be on to something if we were talking the top players in college hockey. But I doubt this was the case here. I do know that Jack St. Ivany hooked on with Tom Brady's clothing line last year while he was still playing at BC so who really knows.. But I am not well versed as to what college hockey players have been able to land in NIL deals.
 
Jay may or may not be a good choice, but the one thing that concerns me is he has never been a head coach. The same was true for Albie. When you are an assistant coach, you are an employee. When you are the head coach at this level, you own it. It is a different mindset. I think since Jay has never been a head coach it also makes it a little more difficult to evaluate him. I suspect if you asked David Quinn, he would tell you the three years he spent as head coach of Cleveland (Lake Monsters?) added significantly to his readiness to become head coach at BU. If Jay is the choice, I sincerely hope he is successful, but after Albie, hiring someone without head coaching experience makes me a little nervous.
 
Terrierfan95 said:
Jay may or may not be a good choice, but the one thing that concerns me is he has never been a head coach. The same was true for Albie. When you are an assistant coach, you are an employee. When you are the head coach at this level, you own it. It is a different mindset. I think since Jay has never been a head coach it also makes it a little more difficult to evaluate him. I suspect if you asked David Quinn, he would tell you the three years he spent as head coach of Cleveland (Lake Monsters?) added significantly to his readiness to become head coach at BU. If Jay is the choice, I sincerely hope he is successful, but after Albie, hiring someone without head coaching experience makes me a little nervous.
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Jay's lack of HC experience is a legit concern. However, it's entirely unfair to consider him Albie 2.0 just because he comes in with no HC experience and as our former associate HC.

It was clear the team excelled when Jay reportedly took on more player development responsibility this season after Christmas break. His resume coming into this job is very different from Albie's. IJay spent numerous years specifically in player development at multiple levels with the Bruins. Albie cut his chops mainly as a talent evaluator and recruiter. For the head coaching position, it's more important to have the former skill than the latter. Talent evaluation and recruiting can be handled mostly by associate/assistant HCs. This is where Jay would need to make a very strong hire - to me, Joe Pereira would be a slam dunk backfill as associate HC and the perfect complement.

The other big difference between Jay and Albie - one hung a banner at BU and has his name on the Cup twice, then came within one game of doing it again as a coach. Winners win wherever they go. For all of Albie's recruiting success, he never won anything anywhere at any level.

Re: Hastings - with Michigan State reportedly set to hire the USNTDP coach, I find it hard to believe he was a legitimate candidate anywhere. MSU had zero reason to pass on him if he was interested. My guess is both them and BU might've had some exploratory discussions, but nothing further and may not have even had a formal interview.

As far as I know, Jay is the only person who had a formal interview with President Brown at BU. In 2018, both Albie and Rick Bennett did.
 
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brassbonanza said:
Jay's lack of HC experience is a legit concern. However, it's entirely unfair to consider him Albie 2.0 just because he comes in with no HC experience and as our former associate HC.

It was clear the team excelled when Jay reportedly took on more player development responsibility this season after Christmas break. His resume coming into this job is very different from Albie's. IJay spent numerous years specifically in player development at multiple levels with the Bruins. Albie cut his chops mainly as a talent evaluator and recruiter. For the head coaching position, it's more important to have the former skill than the latter. Talent evaluation and recruiting can be handled mostly by associate/assistant HCs. This is where Jay would need to make a very strong hire - to me, Joe Pereira would be a slam dunk backfill as associate HC and the perfect complement.

The other big difference between Jay and Albie - one hung a banner at BU and has his name on the Cup twice, then came within one game of doing it again as a coach. Winners win wherever they go. For all of Albie's recruiting success, he never won anything anywhere at any level.

Re: Hastings - with Michigan State reportedly set to hire the USNTDP coach, I find it hard to believe he was a legitimate candidate anywhere. MSU had zero reason to pass on him if he was interested. My guess is both them and BU might've had some exploratory discussions, but nothing further and may not have even had a formal interview.

As far as I know, Jay is the only person who had a formal interview with President Brown at BU. In 2018, both Albie and Rick Bennett did.
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Pando will be just fine... he has total command and not this quiet little mouse everyone paints him out to be.. He is incredibly organized...disciplined...commands respect in a positive way
 
brassbonanza said:
Jay's lack of HC experience is a legit concern. However, it's entirely unfair to consider him Albie 2.0 just because he comes in with no HC experience and as our former associate HC.

It was clear the team excelled when Jay reportedly took on more player development responsibility this season after Christmas break. His resume coming into this job is very different from Albie's. IJay spent numerous years specifically in player development at multiple levels with the Bruins. Albie cut his chops mainly as a talent evaluator and recruiter. For the head coaching position, it's more important to have the former skill than the latter. Talent evaluation and recruiting can be handled mostly by associate/assistant HCs. This is where Jay would need to make a very strong hire - to me, Joe Pereira would be a slam dunk backfill as associate HC and the perfect complement.

The other big difference between Jay and Albie - one hung a banner at BU and has his name on the Cup twice, then came within one game of doing it again as a coach. Winners win wherever they go. For all of Albie's recruiting success, he never won anything anywhere at any level.

Re: Hastings - with Michigan State reportedly set to hire the USNTDP coach, I find it hard to believe he was a legitimate candidate anywhere. MSU had zero reason to pass on him if he was interested. My guess is both them and BU might've had some exploratory discussions, but nothing further and may not have even had a formal interview.

As far as I know, Jay is the only person who had a formal interview with President Brown at BU. In 2018, both Albie and Rick Bennett did.
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Only one person with a formal interview? That seems like a sham process to me. But I have been saying since BU brought in Pandolfo that they would let Albie be a lame duck and then hand it over to Pandolfo.
 
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ColinWilsonFan said:
I am always accurate.... and yes of course I will be happy to share publicly what I know and how ...lord...
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There's no point in telling people they're wrong if you're just gonna be the dbag who claims to have all this info and not reveal anything. Nobody is asking for your alleged source.
 
J.D. said:
I think you'd be on to something if we were talking the top players in college hockey. But I doubt this was the case here. I do know that Jack St. Ivany hooked on with Tom Brady's clothing line last year while he was still playing at BC so who really knows.. But I am not well versed as to what college hockey players have been able to land in NIL deals.
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No idea - but anything is possible given what's going on in certain circles; all it takes is one booster at a school to start throwing money around.
 
brassbonanza said:
Jay's lack of HC experience is a legit concern. However, it's entirely unfair to consider him Albie 2.0 just because he comes in with no HC experience and as our former associate HC.

It was clear the team excelled when Jay reportedly took on more player development responsibility this season after Christmas break. His resume coming into this job is very different from Albie's. IJay spent numerous years specifically in player development at multiple levels with the Bruins. Albie cut his chops mainly as a talent evaluator and recruiter. For the head coaching position, it's more important to have the former skill than the latter. Talent evaluation and recruiting can be handled mostly by associate/assistant HCs. This is where Jay would need to make a very strong hire - to me, Joe Pereira would be a slam dunk backfill as associate HC and the perfect complement.

The other big difference between Jay and Albie - one hung a banner at BU and has his name on the Cup twice, then came within one game of doing it again as a coach. Winners win wherever they go. For all of Albie's recruiting success, he never won anything anywhere at any level.

Re: Hastings - with Michigan State reportedly set to hire the USNTDP coach, I find it hard to believe he was a legitimate candidate anywhere. MSU had zero reason to pass on him if he was interested. My guess is both them and BU might've had some exploratory discussions, but nothing further and may not have even had a formal interview.

As far as I know, Jay is the only person who had a formal interview with President Brown at BU. In 2018, both Albie and Rick Bennett did.
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I think it's a stretch to say Jay was the reason for the better record after XMas. It was because guys came back from injury, etc and because the strength of schedule in Jan-March was easier than the first semester schedule (look up one of my previous posts on the subject) and then when all the cards were on the table we lost big game after big game. Not sold on that at all.
 
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J.D. said:
Only one person with a formal interview? That seems like a sham process to me. But I have been saying since BU brought in Pandolfo that they would let Albie be a lame duck and then hand it over to Pandolfo.
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One person, that I know of, who interviewed with President Brown. That does not mean more interviewed with Drew. Brown is the final step who only interviews candidates Drew selects. Not a sham process at all.
 
Terrier86 said:
I think it's a stretch to say Jay was the reason for the better record after XMas. It was because guys came back from injury, etc and because the strength of schedule in Jan-March was easier than the first semester schedule (look up one of my previous posts on the subject) and then when all the cards were on the table we lost big game after big game. Not sold on that at all.
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Oh I would say it had a lot to do with Pandolfo taking a bigger role
 
J.D. said:
There's no point in telling people they're wrong if you're just gonna be the dbag who claims to have all this info and not reveal anything. Nobody is asking for your alleged source.
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Have you watched his game since his great freshman season? That tells the story.....
 
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