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BU 2017 Season Thread III: Terriers falling (into the off season)

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BUtogether said:
..seems like you are just a troll who hates Switzer...did he do your daughter?
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Well if I had a daughter the oldest she could possibly be would be 5, so if he did I feel like I would be doing other things to rectify the situation.
 
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Lemonade said:
Is everyone along with my thinking that anything less than a final 4 appearance is a huge failure of a season? No Beanpot, No Hockey East title…..final 4 or bust.
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Yes this season is a bust. Based on talent they should have run away with HE regular season and won a hard fought game against Lowell who's always a tough out for championship. Wouldn't be as concerned about Beanpot loss to Harvard. With the expected one and done in the NCAA's Quinn and the coaching staff need to take a hard look at themselves and make some changes. Way underperformed this year and a lot of that was due to taking long stretches of games off - like 57 minutes in the HE tourney vs BC. :rolleyes:
 
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Rover said:
Yes this season is a bust. Based on talent they should have run away with HE regular season and won a hard fought game against Lowell who's always a tough out for championship. Wouldn't be as concerned about Beanpot loss to Harvard. With the expected one and done in the NCAA's Quinn and the coaching staff need to take a hard look at themselves and make some changes. Way underperformed this year and a lot of that was due to taking long stretches of games off - like 57 minutes in the HE tourney vs BC. :rolleyes:
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I still say they did a good job recruiting individual players but they did a poor job or recruiting a team. You cant just pluck some superstar kid and think they will all play roles. Its like a team full of all stars that never play well together.
 
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Rover said:
Yes this season is a bust. Based on talent they should have run away with HE regular season and won a hard fought game against Lowell who's always a tough out for championship. Wouldn't be as concerned about Beanpot loss to Harvard. With the expected one and done in the NCAA's Quinn and the coaching staff need to take a hard look at themselves and make some changes. Way underperformed this year and a lot of that was due to taking long stretches of games off - like 57 minutes in the HE tourney vs BC. :rolleyes:
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While I normally agree with you, I gotta say that I don't think you watched the game against BC if you think they took off any part of that game. They were the better team in the first period and most of the third. They were horrible in the second, from the moment the puck dropped, but it certainly wasn't for lack of effort. This season the problem seemed to be lack of consistency during each game, whereas the problem last season seemed to be a lack of consistency from game to game. Whether we want to hear the excuse or not, that is a sign of being the youngest team in the country, and second youngest last season. Can't argue with that. What we can criticize is the fact that we were the youngest team two years ago, second youngest last year, youngest this year. Now that this is his fourth year, it is about time that Quinn starts getting the classes in order.

In my opinion, the more immediate problem is not the inability to put together a full game, but rather installing an offensive system to produces results. Even without playing the second period, this team still should've won that game last Friday. I have previously posted more in depth complaints and proposed solutions so I won't get into it now. But hopefully with a (hopefully) increasingly older team, Quinn will install a looser, more skill-based offense that lets the players go a bit.
 
BU Fan 84 said:
But hopefully with a (hopefully) increasingly older team, Quinn will install a looser, more skill-based offense that lets the players go a bit.
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But do you see any indication that he intends to go that route? It's just kind of funny, because I posted this last year (that they need more of a balance- more "older" players to provide stability, leadership and continuity) and I have been continuously villified for it.
 
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chickod said:
But do you see any indication that he intends to go that route? It's just kind of funny, because I posted this last year (that they need more of a balance- more "older" players to provide stability, leadership and continuity) and I have been continuously villified for it.
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Someone with time can post the ages for the 2017 freshman class. Obviously Tkachuk, Farrance and Cockerill are young. Is Amonte the same age? I feel like Crone is a little older - wasn't he originally going to come in last year? Bowers is draft eligible this year, so not old.
 
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BU Fan 84 said:
While I normally agree with you, I gotta say that I don't think you watched the game against BC if you think they took off any part of that game. They were the better team in the first period and most of the third. They were horrible in the second, from the moment the puck dropped, but it certainly wasn't for lack of effort.
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Watched the entire sorry spectacle. They were regularly outhustled until the last 3 minutes. No the bad goals given up by Oettinger didn't help, but they didn't show up to play plain and simple. Even with the half arsed offensive system and Oettinger doing his best Matty O'Connor in net, a full 60 minute effort may have won them that game. Yes its a young team but they can't just bring the intensity at the end of the game.
 
UML Puck Hawk said:
Well if I had a daughter the oldest she could possibly be would be 5, so if he did I feel like I would be doing other things to rectify the situation.
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Must be your wife then...doubt you could do anything cream puff...you were the gutless clown on here accusing a kid of drinking because I said he should be in the line up...so I will ask again...what is your infatuation with BU hockey?... have you ever even seen the kid play or are you the one secretly in love with DQ and I disparaged your man crush...if I were a Lowell fan I wouldn't worry one second about BU..Lowell has won 3 of the last 4 and dominated the game they lost....ahhh now I get it you love DQ's coaching
 
defkit said:
Someone with time can post the ages for the 2017 freshman class. Obviously Tkachuk, Farrance and Cockerill are young. Is Amonte the same age? I feel like Crone is a little older - wasn't he originally going to come in last year? Bowers is draft eligible this year, so not old.
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Amonte and Crone are 19....Kotkansalo Cockerill...18 Bowers..Crotty..Farrance Tkachuk...17
 
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Rover said:
Watched the entire sorry spectacle. They were regularly outhustled until the last 3 minutes. No the bad goals given up by Oettinger didn't help, but they didn't show up to play plain and simple. Even with the half arsed offensive system and Oettinger doing his best Matty O'Connor in net, a full 60 minute effort may have won them that game. Yes its a young team but they can't just bring the intensity at the end of the game.
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They showed up to play - and got stoned by Woll in the first period. They responded terribly in the second by not hustling, getting outworked, and allowing two goals that shouldn't have happened. Yet they actually outchanced BC in the second period. That poor response continued into the first part of the third where lack of hustle and poor puck movement handed BC that disastrous third goal. Yes, they mounted a huge comeback at the end and had even more chances to score that Woll stoned or that went wide, but the overarching problem was their initial response to the adversity they faced was bad. The same thing happened against Northeastern - get down a goal quickly, play like garbage, give up another goal, hold on to keep the deficit at two, eventually regather a period or two later, make huge comeback. I don't fear as much that they give up the first goal, I fear that their response to giving up the first goal is to go into Chicken Little mode and think the sky is falling. That inevitably leads to more and more poor play, more bad goals, less effort, etc. That falls on the shoulders of everyone on the ice and behind the bench.

If they were better mentally prepared to respond to immediately respond to adversity, giving up that first goal to BC wouldn't be a major issue. You refocus, adjust your scheme if necessary, get a drink of water and get back out there. But when that first goal went in I think we all knew a second was coming soon and it'd be a bit before they began to dig themselves out of that rut, if they did.
 
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They showed up to play - and got stoned by Woll in the first period. They responded terribly in the second by not hustling, getting outworked, and allowing two goals that shouldn't have happened. Yet they actually outchanced BC in the second period. That poor response continued into the first part of the third where lack of hustle and poor puck movement handed BC that disastrous third goal. Yes, they mounted a huge comeback at the end and had even more chances to score that Woll stoned or that went wide, but the overarching problem was their initial response to the adversity they faced was bad. The same thing happened against Northeastern - get down a goal quickly, play like garbage, give up another goal, hold on to keep the deficit at two, eventually regather a period or two later, make huge comeback. I don't fear as much that they give up the first goal, I fear that their response to giving up the first goal is to go into Chicken Little mode and think the sky is falling. That inevitably leads to more and more poor play, more bad goals, less effort, etc. That falls on the shoulders of everyone on the ice and behind the bench.

If they were better mentally prepared to respond to immediately respond to adversity, giving up that first goal to BC wouldn't be a major issue. You refocus, adjust your scheme if necessary, get a drink of water and get back out there. But when that first goal went in I think we all knew a second was coming soon and it'd be a bit before they began to dig themselves out of that rut, if they did.
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And a puzzling inability to score goals...with all that NHL talent...and we all know who didn't hustle on goal number 3...what do you think the repercussions will be ?..nothing...and that's the problem
 
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Being the youngest team in the country has nothing to do with adjusting classes or whatever. The same programs are always the youngest teams. Not just a BU thing. When BC was winning titles they would routinely be youngest team. Michigan etc
 
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Rover said:
Watched the entire sorry spectacle. They were regularly outhustled until the last 3 minutes. No the bad goals given up by Oettinger didn't help, but they didn't show up to play plain and simple. Even with the half arsed offensive system and Oettinger doing his best Matty O'Connor in net, a full 60 minute effort may have won them that game. Yes its a young team but they can't just bring the intensity at the end of the game.
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+100

Exactly what a number of us have been saying, and IMO it's DIRECTLY attributable to lack of experience, maturity, composure, whatever word you want to use. Much of which can be solved by adding some experience to the "mix." I just don't see how, if BU continues down this road of "let's get all the top players we can even though we know they're going to be one and done," they can consistently win.
 
J.D. said:
Being the youngest team in the country has nothing to do with adjusting classes or whatever. The same programs are always the youngest teams. Not just a BU thing. When BC was winning titles they would routinely be youngest team. Michigan etc
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Interesting you bring up Michigan...they have one tournament appearance in the last 5 years with the young approach...when they were dominant they were heavily laden with upperclassmen
 
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