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BU 2017 Season Thread III: Terriers falling (into the off season)

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Sean -

With the exception of UVM, you correctly selected the schedule for Maine based on your reasoning. Maine plays BC, BU, UNH and UMass three times and the other six teams twice. Hockey East substituted UMass over UVM based on their algorithm (last year's standings I think). As I recall you used the last 2 or 3 seasons.
 
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Nick Papagiorgio said:
That doesn't stop them from signing and making some money. Then some surprise in the pros and play better there, where maybe they have a game more suited for the pros than the college game.
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Absolutely. Is there a single BU fan (or Hockey East fan) who would have guessed that Joe DiPenta would reach the NHL and have his name engraved on the Stanley Cup?
 
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Rogie21 said:
Absolutely. Is there a single BU fan (or Hockey East fan) who would have guessed that Joe DiPenta would reach the NHL and have his name engraved on the Stanley Cup?
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Certainly not me.

Sean
 
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Rogie21 said:
Absolutely. Is there a single BU fan (or Hockey East fan) who would have guessed that Joe DiPenta would reach the NHL and have his name engraved on the Stanley Cup?
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I know, right??? Same with Adrian Aucoin.
 
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Runsub5 said:
Sean -

With the exception of UVM, you correctly selected the schedule for Maine based on your reasoning. Maine plays BC, BU, UNH and UMass three times and the other four teams twice. Hockey East substituted UMass over UVM based on their algorithm (last year's standings I think). As I recall you used the last 2 or 3 seasons.
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I used the last 5 seasons overall records, including this past season. I'm guessing the league used the 2015-16 league standings, which don't change the top five overall, just the positions of the top 3. However, it does move Merrimack up to 6th, my pivot point, and drops Vermont into the bottom five. Looking at my chart I don't think it would break my schedule, however, so it will be interesting to see the full league schedule.

Sean
 
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defkit said:
Getting swept at home by Maine to open the season brought expectations back in check pretty quickly! Those were the first two hockey games I had ever seen, in person OR on TV. I believe the highlight was someone for BU (Scott Young?) scoring on the Maine goalie (Scott King?) from our own defensive zone.
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My brother was up visiting me at BU that weekend, and he had never seen a Terrier hockey game before so I took him along. After those two games I don't think he was interested in seeing any more. It was a real shock.
 
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CollegeHockeyRinkReport said:
Article on North Dakota game with quotes from David Quinn, Doyle Somerby and Brandon Hickey:

http://www.sbncollegehockey.com/hoc...lishes-opportunity-to-face-north-dakota-fargo
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Interesting choice of words: "relishes" :)

Well, it seems as though they understand what they have to do. Now it's just a matter of execution. And, who knows? As I said previously, maybe this is the type of challenge this team "needs."
 
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BU Fan 84 said:
I really don't see any of these players being ready for professional hockey other than Somerby. I think Roberto could probably get a shot in the ECHL for a couple years. Players leaving early? You have to be kidding me. Even Keller sucks almost 50% of the time (and the rest of the time he is pretty awesome, but I imagine he needs to develop some consistency first.)
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I have a lot of conversations with fellow Bruins fans who are keen on having McAvoy next season. I keep telling them he's not ready. If he goes, he will be playing in Providence.
 
Tater said:
By my count 6 forwards coming in.

2 seniors graduating (Roberto, Kelley); 2 almost definite to leave (Keller, Greenway); 1 possible to leave (JFK) = leaves 1-2 forwards more than this year. 17 forwards - quite a bit, may result in another departure.

2 defensemen coming in.

1 senior graduating (Somerby); 2 likely to leave (McAvoy, Hickey) = one less than this year, BUtogether's son gets more playing time.

Overall change to roster: Even to +1.
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Not my son and Hickey isn't going anywhere...if he does leave they will accelerate Crotty and pretend the 3 new freshman are great because they are NHL draft picks while Diffley and Switzer continue to sit in the stands.
 
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BUtogether said:
Apparently nobody here reads twitter or watches the NHL Network where are own fearless leader claimed he was the only one who could screw this up. He seems to have forgotten that and now pulls out the young card...and the Twitter preseason national championship looks like a long shot ..get ready for the we lost Keller and MvAvoy card next year...but hopefully Oettinger is back
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Since this is the 232nd time you've brought up his quote from the draft, I'm asking, how is this a prediction by him that they were going to win it all? He was asked about all the NHL talent he had coming in, and he jokingly addressed the pressure that comes with it by saying only he could screw it up. I don't see how that translates into him predicting they would win it all. I see it as a self-depricating comment about the pressure that comes with such recruiting success. And I'd say it's clear the pressure is on, given all the comments on this board about his coaching ability. There have been many coaches and classes that have had boatloads of NHL talent that have not won the NCAA title (BC team with Janney/Leetch, BU team with Amonte/Tkachuk/McEachern, Michigan with Morrisson/Botterill, Minny with Kessel and company to name a few).

I'm fine with questioning his tactics, line-ups, etc., but I don't see how the quote has anything to do with it.
 
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BU Fan 84 said:
I really don't see any of these players being ready for professional hockey other than Somerby. I think Roberto could probably get a shot in the ECHL for a couple years. Players leaving early? You have to be kidding me. Even Keller sucks almost 50% of the time (and the rest of the time he is pretty awesome, but I imagine he needs to develop some consistency first.)
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Agree completely. Obviously there's always some surprises. Having said that if these stiffs think they're ready for the pros they're deluding themselves. Keller sure but otherwise the team collectively laying an egg this year doesn't scream future success for its players on the next level although one could argue they're being restrained by the offensive system.
 
defkit said:
Since this is the 232nd time you've brought up his quote from the draft, I'm asking, how is this a prediction by him that they were going to win it all? He was asked about all the NHL talent he had coming in, and he jokingly addressed the pressure that comes with it by saying only he could screw it up. I don't see how that translates into him predicting they would win it all. I see it as a self-depricating comment about the pressure that comes with such recruiting success. And I'd say it's clear the pressure is on, given all the comments on this board about his coaching ability. There have been many coaches and classes that have had boatloads of NHL talent that have not won the NCAA title (BC team with Janney/Leetch, BU team with Amonte/Tkachuk/McEachern, Michigan with Morrisson/Botterill, Minny with Kessel and company to name a few).

I'm fine with questioning his tactics, line-ups, etc., but I don't see how the quote has anything to do with it.
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Fair enough..then I am questioning his line ups and tactics...I also am questioning the young excuse that keeps being played..if this is the way you are going to recruit then you will always be young...your choice..there not different rules for other NCAA teams...the truth is I believe they have the talent to win it all.
 
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Thanks for posting that, Rogie.

Some real amazing things in there:
- Look at those tiny pads on Larocque and Turco
- Truly horrible ESPN2 graphics
- Greg Quebec!?
 
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BUtogether said:
Fair enough..then I am questioning his line ups and tactics...I also am questioning the young excuse that keeps being played..if this is the way you are going to recruit then you will always be young...your choice..there not different rules for other NCAA teams...the truth is I believe they have the talent to win it all.
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I'm not sure how often he has used the "young" excuse, but I agree - that is the bed you make when you recruit the USNDTP kids.

I will be very interested to see how well these drafted kids do in the NHL, as I will then feel better about judging how far this team should have gone. While it is not an excuse for how your team does, there is the reality that these "younger" kids, as good as they are projected to be, are not there yet. Some will get there, some will do well, some may never get there.

- Keller clearly has the offensive skills, and for all I know, he might step right in and put up 60 points for the Yotes next year. But I see him easily neutralized by physical defensemen, and I think it is possible he won't have immediate success
- Greenway looked like a beast ready to play in the NHL at the WJCs but against older competition he hasn't been the same dominant force. I think he is one year away from being an NHL regular - whether that is at BU of the AHL, remains to be seen.
- JFK needs another year in my opinion. His play has been too inconsistent. I love his game but like Greenway, I think he needs a year (at least) before he is in the NHL.
- Fabbro is definitely NHL material IMHO, but he needs a couple more years.
- McAvoy could use another year, but my guess is that the Bruins will want to get him signed regardless. He'll get some looks in Boston, but may have to spend some time in Providence.
- Bellows - needs at least a couple years, to say the least. Perhaps he will have a Drury-like transition from freshman to sophomore year (12 goals to 36 I believe). But that looks like a long shot at this point.
 
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smyler3 said:
Thanks for posting that, Rogie.

Some real amazing things in there:
- Look at those tiny pads on Larocque and Turco
- Truly horrible ESPN2 graphics
- Greg Quebec!?
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Speaking of reminiscing - saw this one in my apartment in Needham. Started the game just hoping we somehow didn't embarrass ourselves. After losing 4-0 the year before, and knowing Michigan was even more stocked, our odds of winning had to be about 10% going into the game. The physical play early on by Drury, Wright, and others was an awesome sight to see - it showed the team was not intimidated. After Michigan scored, the team didn't give up. Three goals, all by freshman, in the second period turned the tide, and then they hung on in the late stages. Boy were the Sioux fans on our side that night!

Then for some reason, the coaches underestimated the Sioux offense and went away from the passive forecheck. Giveaways by two of our top players (Kelleher and Drury) led to breakawy goals, and for the third time in three NC games in 6 years, we gave up 5 second period goals. A downer of an end after a huge high beating Michigan.
 
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