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BU 2016-17 Season Thread I: The Kids are Alright

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Harry Cleverly said:
LaCouvee played great. But he is still a clear #2 on this team, not #1B.

Nothing wrong with having 2, maybe 3 goalies that can win games.
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Agreed. All Bomber was saying was to give him a game once in a while to keep him from being rusty should we really need him.
 
Tater said:
Agreed. All Bomber was saying was to give him a game once in a while to keep him from being rusty should we really need him.
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He's should get back-to-backs against lower half opponents. It also keeps the team sharp. He should have played against Sacred Heart. :)
 
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Bomber said:
He's should get back-to-backs against lower half opponents. It also keeps the team sharp. He should have played against Sacred Heart. :)
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Tater said:
Agreed. All Bomber was saying was to give him a game once in a while to keep him from being rusty should we really need him.
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Would either of you care to answer my questions about how often a backup should be played?


Sean Pickett said:
And those are just at the start of the season. You mention a rusty back-up, so I would guess you think the back-up needs to play every so often. So, how often should a back-up start? And should a back-up start down the stretch just to give the #1 goalie a break?
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Does anyone else have any opinions on the matter?

Sean
 
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Sean Pickett said:
Would either of you care to answer my questions about how often a backup should be played?


Does anyone else have any opinions on the matter?

Sean
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Situationally. But Jake has earned the #1 spot to himself. Connor proved he can be a serviceable backup who can play a game when Jake needs a break (warranted after 11 straight starts), when we have three games in five days and we're playing a bottom-half HE opponent. Give him a game when we have Maine, Maine, Merrimack on a Fri/Sat/Tuesday. The determination should be made based on how Jake is playing and how much rest he needs based on what the schedule dictates, not because Connor played really well against UConn once so we can't not give him more PT. But Connor proved he is a solid option to spell Jake when necessary.
 
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Oettinger is in net tonight. Diffley takes MacLeod's spot and Phelps is back at LW4.

Depending on whether Oettinger makes the Jr. Nat'l Team and if Team USA reaches the final, LaCouvee would be the likely starter on Jan. 5 against Union, a team BU has struggled with.
 
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whew!!!! good thing GQ got that raise and extension off his bud the AD :rolleyes:
 
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Goalie controversy!!! :)

Bad loss. But mookie calling for Quinn's head is beyond dumb.
 
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Bomber said:
Goalie controversy!!! :)

Bad loss. But mookie calling for Quinn's head is beyond dumb.
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hey, mookie is smart enough to know when JD is right. take away eichel and GQ is a bum.... no better than cedorchuk.

GQ can buy the groceries, but can't cook a lick :(
 
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Ha, well i wasn't going THAT far. Great recruiter but actual coaching i do think he has a lot to prove.
 
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I really thought they were past this whole losing to inferior opponents at home thing. What good is all of this recruiting if they're just going to lose to Uconn at home? And I'm really sick of the "they're a young team" excuse. They're always young. That's who Quinn recruits. The problem is that they never seem to get any better year to year. They come in as stars, the regress sophomore year and they either leave or are dropped down to the 3rd line by their junior year or lose their spot entirely to the new star freshmen who will eventually see the same fate.

As for the coaching and strategy? The powerplay is a complete joke right now (under 14% - 45th in the country). They can't complete a pass closer than 5 feet from the blue line with the man advantage. All of their shots either miss the net completely or hit the goalie square in the chest. Overall on offense they make no attempt to get the defense or goalie out of position. They just stick Greenway in front of the net and slap one-timers in his direction. I cannot understand how a college team's entire offensive strategy centers around tip-ins. And the drop passes. So many drop passes.

Last night the team gave up after the 3rd goal. No urgency in a league game against a team they should beat. If they don't think they can score 3 goals against a team like Uconn in 1 period when they need to that's a problem. This kills their pairwise not to mention their league standing. Oettinger should have been pulled after the 3rd goal if for no other reason than to shake things up and energize the team. Also because that goal was absolutely terrible.
 
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Greenway should have dropped the gloves beat the chit outta someone.
Not like they winning vs Harvard or PC anyhow
 
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Terrance said:
And I'm really sick of the "they're a young team" excuse. They're always young. That's who Quinn recruits.
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But that's the POINT! "Young" teams are inconsistent. You need some leadership from upperclassmen to "stabilize" things. This is what young kids do. They beat a team one night and then take the next night off. It takes leadership and experience for a team to play consistently well from game to game. I know we think it "shouldn't," but the reality is it does.

I mentioned this last year and again in October. I don't agree with the strategy of loading up with only the "highest-rated" talent. You need a few guys (OK - I won't say a few because some of you will pounce on me with "statistics" about how many upperclassmen were on previous great teams - so I'll say a "better mix") who are NOT going to play in the NHL, but who will stick around for four years to provide continuity to the program. I just don't see anything changing until they do that. (on the other hand, if they keep going the way they are, they won't GET the top-rated talent any more anyway...)

A team is more than just raw talent. I think that in this era of endless metrics, we forget about the intangibles. Why did the Patriots beat the Rams in the Super Bowl, who were by all accounts a "vastly superior" team in regards to TALENT. There are ENDLESS examples of "more talented" teams not being successful.

I just think the approach is wrong. Period.
 
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You might want to verify how many from that pats team had all pro type carears vs St. Louis. Lot of great players came off of that team
 
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So following up...here's what I'm talking about. Belichick was asked about the "advanced QB Metrics" (stuff like how long before the ball comes out of his hand, etc.). Here was his reply:

<b><i>"As far as the quarterback goes, read the coverage, throw the ball to the open receiver, take the best matchup," Belichick said. "That's what it is in a nutshell. The quicker we're open, the clearer the picture, the sooner the ball's going to come out. If we don't have anybody open, who's the quarterback going to throw to?"</i></b>

IN OTHER WORDS, you can have all the talent in the world but if they can't COORDINATE and play together (which, incidentally, can be an issue with high achievers in any walk of life - put them all in the same room and you often have more arguing than accomplishment), what good is it? Life is not a statistic. You can't just say "Well, I have the ten best players so I don't understand why we're not winning every game."

And if they don't know THAT, then there really isn't much anyone can do, is there?
 
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Hokydad said:
You might want to verify how many from that pats team had all pro type careers vs St. Louis. Lot of great players came off of that team
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But they hadn't emerged yet. You're using the benefit of hindsight. AT THE TIME, Tom Brady had not established ANYTHING yet. But here at BU, we're talking about players who have already been ranked "at or near the top" by so-called "experts." And the fact that I didn't perhaps use the "best" example should not detract from the point. I don't have time to spend a day doing the research; my only point is, if it were the case that the team with the "most talent" always wins...well, why am I even going through this, especially with YOU? The best example I can think of is the 2015 Championship Game. Right? Or are you going to tell me that Providence was a "more-talented" team than BU with Eichel, Rodrigues, etc.?
 
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Agreed on the need for veteran leadership in addition to young talent especially in games like last night where you carry play for the majority of the game, generate loads of chances, but the goalie stands on his head. Olsson not being in the lineup leaves a huge hole in this regard. That said, if you look at the box score and the flow of play from last night and not look at the final score, you'd think BU handily won the game. We generated far more top quality chances than them, nearly doubled them in shots and shot attempts, and carried the pressure for basically the entire game. Huska stood on his head and robbed us multiple times, we hit a few posts, and UConn cashed in on every bounce that went their way. Never mind the ridiculous trip of McAvoy that wasn't called on UConn which directly led to UConn's first goal. The power play needs work, lots of it. And we need the three injured forwards back.
 
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