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BU 2013-2014: Ready to Quinn

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As a student and at best a casual fan, I don't really plan to go to any more of the games this year besides maybe beanpot. I respect the die-hard fans who pay to watch this team, when most of the students like myself don't watch the team for free. I hope the team turns it around for y'alls sake.
 
theprofromdover said:
Dope.
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Quinn will be very good in the long run. But he has mentions that the players are young and weak way too much. He's is basically acknowledging that this is a rebuilding year (which is true) but the players seem to be reflective of that in their play. Players seem to be using the fact that they're young as an excuse not to completely sell out. He references age of players pretty much every press conference.
 
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Quinn will be very good in the long run. But he has mentions that the players are young and weak way too much. He's is basically acknowledging that this is a rebuilding year (which is true) but the players seem to be reflective of that in their play. Players seem to be using the fact that they're young as an excuse not to completely sell out. He references age of players pretty much every press conference.
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What happened to this team from the end of last season? Nieto and Gill are gone. Fine. What the heck is wrong with everyone else? Lane and O'Regan are in sophomore slumps then? Rodrigueshas two goals? Two? Oksanen looks terrible...just terrible.

I'm looking forward to another awkward voicemail from Quinn. I'm done.
 
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I really thought that Parker was getting the minimum out of a talented roster in recent past history but maybe I was mistaken and there really is not that much talent there.
 
RefereeGrav said:
Quinn will be very good in the long run. But he has mentions that the players are young and weak way too much. He's is basically acknowledging that this is a rebuilding year (which is true) but the players seem to be reflective of that in their play. Players seem to be using the fact that they're young as an excuse not to completely sell out. He references age of players pretty much every press conference.
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Not for nothing but aren't your friends up the street in Chestnut Hill the youngest team in the country? If Quinn's theory is right, why aren't they struggling too?
 
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Onion Man said:
Not for nothing but aren't your friends up the street in Chestnut Hill the youngest team in the country? If Quinn's theory is right, why aren't they struggling too?
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Young is not necessarily synonymous with "not talented." But on another note, I find it (I almost want to say "mildly amusing" except that it isn't) disappointing how everyone on this board (including myself) was screaming for Jack's head for the past three years, and now they are all "disgusted" and want to give up. I don't think it was the wrong move at all to bring him in and hopefully <B>"NCAAfan500"</B> was speaking in jest. I would suggest that we allow some "time" for Quinn to get his system established, not to mention get the players in here that fit his philosophy. I really am shocked at how quickly people have just turned their backs (I know it's not everyone).

I am not understanding why everyone is placing the blame for the poor play directly at the coach's feet. From what I have seen, there is just not enough talent for this team to compete successfully in this league, and as others (even Quinn himself) have mentioned, if not for O'Connor it would be even worse. Is this the result of expectations of excellence EVERY year? That's impossible. Did everyone forget that the Patriots were in existence 41 years before they ever won the Super Bowl? Did they forget that the Red Sox went 86 years without winning a World Series? Did they forget that the Bruins went 39 years without winning the Stanley Cup? I know people here (especially the elitists) think that they can create a perfect Utopian society and that the answer to everything is to throw money at it. Well, I have news for you. That's NOT the way it is, nor has it ever been. The vitriol is astonishing to me. It's almost embarrassing. BU is having a "down" year. So what? The world is not going to end. The guy has only been coach for two months, for Pete's sake! If it's like this at this time next year or the year after, then we can re-evaluate things. Did you really think that the team you saw last year plus the incoming recruits were going to magically win Hockey East and beat BC five times? Yes, we beat BC in the Hockey East semi-finals last year. But BU was highly motivated because they wanted Jack's "ride" to continue, and BC had everything wrapped up Pairwise anyway and didn't really have a lot to play for (besides having players injured and in the midst of a somewhat "down" year [for them] themselves). It's like everyone is saying "Jack beat BC to get to the Hockey East Finals last year and now we're almost in last place. It must be Quinn's fault."

Now don't misunderstand me. None of this has anything to do with the attendance issue. With that I agree - the school has their head in the sand about what is a "reasonable" expectation for a ticket pricing structure. Maybe they should go to the Wal-Mart school of marketing, which says just get people "in the door." They can't spend money if they don't come. You can offset a drop in ticket prices in just concessions alone, and you will far exceed your previous revenue. They also need to understand, apart from the math, that if the product is not appealing, they need to do something to re-invigorate the fan base. As I mentioned previously, I can't go as much due to my new job. But it's the people "on the fence" that need to be brought back in. Whoever said above the BU does not have the "core" fan base to fill a 6300 seat arena obviously is correct. I can remember more than a few people raising their eyebrows when we first heard of the size of Agganis in its planning stages. My first thought was, "as soon as they stop winning, the arena will be half-empty." Remember, in the beginning it was a novelty and everyone wanted to see the facility. Then we won in 2009 and it was just enough to keep the fence straddlers hanging on for a couple of years. Well, that ship has now sailed. But you can't put all the blame for the poor atmosphere on Quinn, either. Most schools have one or two great seasons and a LOT of bad ones. BU is NEVER in the "second division" (as they used to say in baseball back when there were ten teams in each league and if you finished worse than fifth). When was the last time BU failed to make the playoffs? If you think that's a ridiculous question, ask Northeastern or Merrimack fans how many bad seasons they had before they had a "good" one. And if you say, "But that should NEVER happen to BU, because we're BU," then you're a moron. Another arrogant BU elitist. Get over yourself.
 
chickod said:
Young is not necessarily synonymous with "not talented." But on another note, I find it (I almost want to say "mildly amusing" except that it isn't) disappointing how everyone on this board (including myself) was screaming for Jack's head for the past three years, and now they are all "disgusted" and want to give up. I don't think it was the wrong move at all to bring him in and hopefully <B>"NCAAfan500"</B> was speaking in jest. I would suggest that we allow some "time" for Quinn to get his system established, not to mention get the players in here that fit his philosophy. I really am shocked at how quickly people have just turned their backs (I know it's not everyone).

I am not understanding why everyone is placing the blame for the poor play directly at the coach's feet. From what I have seen, there is just not enough talent for this team to compete successfully in this league, and as others (even Quinn himself) have mentioned, if not for O'Connor it would be even worse. Is this the result of expectations of excellence EVERY year? That's impossible. Did everyone forget that the Patriots were in existence 41 years before they ever won the Super Bowl? Did they forget that the Red Sox went 86 years without winning a World Series? Did they forget that the Bruins went 39 years without winning the Stanley Cup? I know people here (especially the elitists) think that they can create a perfect Utopian society and that the answer to everything is to throw money at it. Well, I have news for you. That's NOT the way it is, nor has it ever been. The vitriol is astonishing to me. It's almost embarrassing. BU is having a "down" year. So what? The world is not going to end. The guy has only been coach for two months, for Pete's sake! If it's like this at this time next year or the year after, then we can re-evaluate things. Did you really think that the team you saw last year plus the incoming recruits were going to magically win Hockey East and beat BC five times? Yes, we beat BC in the Hockey East semi-finals last year. But BU was highly motivated because they wanted Jack's "ride" to continue, and BC had everything wrapped up Pairwise anyway and didn't really have a lot to play for (besides having players injured and in the midst of a somewhat "down" year [for them] themselves). It's like everyone is saying "Jack beat BC to get to the Hockey East Finals last year and now we're almost in last place. It must be Quinn's fault."

Now don't misunderstand me. None of this has anything to do with the attendance issue. With that I agree - the school has their head in the sand about what is a "reasonable" expectation for a ticket pricing structure. Maybe they should go to the Wal-Mart school of marketing, which says just get people "in the door." They can't spend money if they don't come. You can offset a drop in ticket prices in just concessions alone, and you will far exceed your previous revenue. They also need to understand, apart from the math, that if the product is not appealing, they need to do something to re-invigorate the fan base. As I mentioned previously, I can't go as much due to my new job. But it's the people "on the fence" that need to be brought back in. Whoever said above the BU does not have the "core" fan base to fill a 6300 seat arena obviously is correct. I can remember more than a few people raising their eyebrows when we first heard of the size of Agganis in its planning stages. My first thought was, "as soon as they stop winning, the arena will be half-empty." Remember, in the beginning it was a novelty and everyone wanted to see the facility. Then we won in 2009 and it was just enough to keep the fence straddlers hanging on for a couple of years. Well, that ship has now sailed. But you can't put all the blame for the poor atmosphere on Quinn, either. Most schools have one or two great seasons and a LOT of bad ones. BU is NEVER in the "second division" (as they used to say in baseball back when there were ten teams in each league and if you finished worse than fifth). When was the last time BU failed to make the playoffs? If you think that's a ridiculous question, ask Northeastern or Merrimack fans how many bad seasons they had before they had a "good" one. And if you say, "But that should NEVER happen to BU, because we're BU," then you're a moron. Another arrogant BU elitist. Get over yourself.
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Denial is a river in Egypt. The program a mess.
 
Jacques Joubert said:
I was close on both counts. If anyone wants the remainder of my tickets for this year please PM me. I'll give them to you. I give up.
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Your level of entitlement is astounding. I'm begging you to turn in all of your BU hats, t-shirts, jerseys, and sweatshirts and go root for the team up the street. Your fired.

The call for instant and immediate success in American sports is off the charts. One example of this absurdity is the Claude Julien. If Horton doesn't score a goal in OT - in game 7 - in 2011, he's out. Dumb.

On the building: Saying 6100 seats is too many is the dumbest, backwards thinking argument I've ever heard. Think about it.

BU Hockey: Transition.
 
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Bomber said:
Saying 6100 seats is too many is the dumbest, backwards thinking argument I've ever heard. Think about it.

BU Hockey: Transition.
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I didn't say it was "too many." What I said was we knew that there wasn't enough of a core fan base to fill the arena and that once we had a couple of "down" seasons it would be half empty. That is NOT the same as saying it is "too many" seat, because I understand that in order to get it built, it had to have viability for OTHER events (concerts, figure skating, etc.). I was simply addressing the comments relating to the "lack of atmosphere" which are inevitable when you have a half-empty arena. You know, EVERY problem doesn't have a perfect solution. Just because I mentioned it doesn't mean I'm "dumb." I repeat, we don't, and never will, live in a perfect world, much to the chagrin of the left-wingers.
 
Bomber said:
Your level of entitlement is astounding. I'm begging you to turn in all of your BU hats, t-shirts, jerseys, and sweatshirts and go root for the team up the street. Your fired.

The call for instant and immediate success in American sports is off the charts. One example of this absurdity is the Claude Julien. If Horton doesn't score a goal in OT - in game 7 - in 2011, he's out. Dumb.

On the building: Saying 6100 seats is too many is the dumbest, backwards thinking argument I've ever heard. Think about it.

BU Hockey: Transition.
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Instant and immediate success? Really? The team hasn't made the tournament or won a beanpot in half a decade. All the while prices increase. How much should I have to put up with? The team doesn't care or try so neither will I. You can sit there and watch this mess. I have better things to do. FWIW I haven't missed a home game in 7 years until this season.
 
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I never once called for Parker's head, nor have I given up on this team or on Quinn.

I do think that Quinn was a reasonable hire and I'm sure will be fine in the long run. I like his interviews, seems like a great guy, and by all reports is a good coach and recruiter.

Regardless of being new or in transition or whatever we want to call it, Quinn certainly should take a piece of the "blame pie" for the recent slump (Just as JP, deserved part of the blame for last years mid-season slump). To say we don't have the talent is all fine if we are playing BC or Michigan, but we were not "out-talented" last night or last weekend. I didn't see the Merrimack game to comment, but Bentley simply out hustled and worked harder than we did for the better part of last night. They were beating us to most open pucks, sneaking up from behind lifting a stick and stealing the puck, digging harder in the corners and coming out with the puck etc etc.... we did get it going in the last 15 minutes of the game, but by that point it was too little, too late.

That does not take any of the blame off of the players either.... as someone mentioned before, where is O'Regan, Lane, Rodrigues etc? Last night, you could not even tell if it was our first line or our fourth line on the ice. Hohmann's injury has not helped, Kurker having mono (or preparing to be gone???) hasn't helped either.

After a game like last night, you will see a lot of overreaction on here. I still think that by the end of the season we will be winning some good games and playing better hockey.... maybe back into that 18ish range in the PWR and just on the bubble of an NCAA bid (maybe I sound more and more crazy saying that).
 
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